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#32
October 31st 05
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Time dilatation and a space referential
CFran:
If I got it right, the faster you go, the slower time goes for you. Sorry to disappoint you, but that isn't correct. Stop and think about how meaningless it is to say ``the faster you go'' without qualifying it via ``with respect to'' something. [...] what, yeah i'm very confused with that) and throw a rocket that can get near c in the direction you're going, and another one like this in the opposite direction, the middle between those two rockets wont be you, or one rocket would go at 1.5 c. You'll be less confused by not careening off on wild speculation based upon an incorrect initial premise. You're best bet is to obtain a textbook and post questions as you try to work the problems. And please explain things simply, you all know how hard it can be to understand/admitt all those weird relativity things, thanks. It's really not all that hard to understand, unless you imprison yourself with naive preconceptions based on superficial observations. The consequences of doing that may be easily seen by reading the articles posted by crackpots to this newsgroup. If you don't wish to join them, do yourself a favor; Buy a textbook and disregard all replies from anyone who appears unable to correctly explain how to work a problem you have difficulty working. 
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#33
October 31st 05
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Sue... wrote:
CFran wrote: If I got it right, the faster you go, the slower time goes for you. No... Right. both twins see each and every film frame shown on a commonly viewed movie screen. Why do you keep stating the obvious? You don't think this proves that the twins must age equally, do you? Of course you don't. But nobody is THAT stupid. Paul
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#34
October 31st 05
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"Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message ... | Sue... wrote: | CFran wrote: | | If I got it right, the faster you go, the slower time goes for you. | | | No... | | Right. | | both twins see each and every film frame shown | on a commonly viewed movie screen. | | Why do you keep stating the obvious? | You don't think this proves that the twins | must age equally, do you? | Of course you don't. | But nobody is THAT stupid. It's amazing just how stupid you really are, tusselad. You are far more stupid than Sue, although on a par with Baez and Roberts. Baez can't count to 32, Roberts hallucinates accretion disks near black holes, you hallucinate 2AB/(t'A- tA) = c. That's three people that ARE that stupid. Androcles.
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#35
November 1st 05
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"more stupid than Sue"? Androcles wrote that. Let's make a vote about it. I
think that somebody is stupid, but is it Sue or Androcles? I give my vote to Androcles, so Androcles is leading a stupidity contest by one to zero. Henry Haapalainen "Androcles" Androcles@ MyPlace.org kirjoitti viestissä news 
"Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message ... | Sue... wrote: | CFran wrote: | | If I got it right, the faster you go, the slower time goes for you. | | | No... | | Right. | | both twins see each and every film frame shown | on a commonly viewed movie screen. | | Why do you keep stating the obvious? | You don't think this proves that the twins | must age equally, do you? | Of course you don't. | But nobody is THAT stupid. It's amazing just how stupid you really are, tusselad. You are far more stupid than Sue, although on a par with Baez and Roberts. Baez can't count to 32, Roberts hallucinates accretion disks near black holes, you hallucinate 2AB/(t'A- tA) = c. That's three people that ARE that stupid. Androcles.
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#36
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Henry Haapalainen wrote: "more stupid than Sue"? Androcles wrote that. Let's make a vote about it. I think that somebody is stupid, but is it Sue or Androcles? I give my vote to Androcles, so Androcles is leading a stupidity contest by one to zero. Two by zero now. Androcles, you need to stop insulting people.
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#37
November 1st 05
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Androcles wrote: "CFran" wrote in message oups.com... | | Androcles wrote: | "CFran" wrote in message oups.com... | | Sue... wrote: | CFran wrote: | Androcles wrote: | "CFran" wrote in message oups.com... | | | | Androcles wrote: | | "CFran" wrote in message ups.com... | | | If I got it right, the faster you go, the slower time goes for you. | | | | You got it wrong. | | [snip rest] | | You've still got it wrong. You've been talking to idiots Sue the medium and her ectoplasm, | she holds a seance daily with her charges but she's good for a laugh, Dinky Van der mumble the peeing puppy and Hayek. I don't know much about Hayek except he thinks clocks run infinitely fast in an empty universe, as if anyone cared, and wants to "send pobes of in 6 directions." | Pobes of what? | They can't help you understand anything, they don't know anything. | I can't help you either, you don't listen. You WANT to believe in time dilation, so go ahead and do so. | Androcles. | | You ain't gotta insult them I discuss (and teach) physics and mathematics here. They do not. Sue never has anything to say herself, she merely quotes web pages, usually irrelevant to the subject under discussion. Dinky Van der mumble has no intention of discussing anything and repeats text books which anyone can read, his main objective is to be disruptive, Hayek wants to discuss an empty Universe. And you just show pictures of Einstein and you're laughing because he ain't looking at the camera.
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#38
November 1st 05
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CFran wrote: AllYou! wrote: "TomGee" wrote in message oups.com... Faster to what? Faster compared to the speed of other objects in the universe. All objects in the universe are in motion and so there is no one object we can say is stationary wrt the universe. All particles of water are in motion in a cloud, but to the extent that the boundaries of the cloud are definable in some way, it's possible to discern the relative speed of any object to the cloud itself. Yeah, that makes more sence I think. It does? How so? It has nothing to do wrt the universe, which is what I was referring to. What you think makes more sense does not contradict what I've said because it is not the same situation. It is only possible to discern the relative speed of an object wrt another object. We cannot discern the speed of an object wrt the universe but only wrt to another object. Even those objects that are stationary wrt each other are moving wrt the universe, although they are moving at the same speed and in the same direction. Both statements should make the same amount of sense to you if you understood them equally well.
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#39
November 1st 05
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Dirk Van de moortel wrote: "Androcles" Androcles@ MyPlace.org wrote in message k... "CFran" wrote in message oups.com... [snip] | You ain't gotta insult them I discuss (and teach) physics and mathematics here. Androcles teaches physicis he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...meIsFreq2.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...Component.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...imeIsFreq.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...undSource.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...eNonsense.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../Chuckle2.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...Competent.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...es/MoreEM.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...s/EMWaves.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...les/Sound.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../Magnetic.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...imeIsFreq.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...s/Coulomb.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../NoEnergy.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../MakeFool.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../AndroMMX.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...servation.html Androcles teaches geometry he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...ullyAware.html Androcles teaches transformations he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...Transform.html Androcles teaches calculations he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...les/FALSE.html Androcles teaches groups he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...droGroups.html Androcles teaches logs he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...s/LogsHuh.html Androcles teaches vectors he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...otVectors.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../AndroVec.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...torLength.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...torSpaces.html Androcles teaches limits he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...les/Limit.html Androcles teaches equations he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...SetSolve2.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...ersuasive.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...droDistri.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...ythagoras.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...hlessBite.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...Competent.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../UseTrans.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...es/Sheesh.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../SetSolve.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...s/DivZero.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...les/Think.html Androcles teaches square roots he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...les/STILL.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...anSpecify.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...es/Nearly.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...Quadratic.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...es/GrowUp.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...Tautology.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di.../Material.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...les/GIVEN.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...agoRescue.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...s/SqrtRev.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...s/NegSqrt.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...rtAnswers.html Androcles teaches exclusive ors he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...Gibberish.html Androcles teaches partial differential equations he http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...rtialDiff.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...tialDiff2.html http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...tialDiff3.html Dirk Vdm hahaha, damn Androcles, you've got a real problem with Hertz and ticks per second. Join comp.dsp we'll explain you. And with sound and it's speed too. And with rectangle triangles too. And with calculating the size of an image in bits too, lol, I loved that one, I found out how to calculate the size of an image properly by myself when I was 13, and you just can't.
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November 1st 05
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Bilge wrote: CFran: If I got it right, the faster you go, the slower time goes for you. Sorry to disappoint you, but that isn't correct. Stop and think about how meaningless it is to say ``the faster you go'' without qualifying it via ``with respect to'' something. [...] what, yeah i'm very confused with that) and throw a rocket that can get near c in the direction you're going, and another one like this in the opposite direction, the middle between those two rockets wont be you, or one rocket would go at 1.5 c. You'll be less confused by not careening off on wild speculation based upon an incorrect initial premise. You're best bet is to obtain a textbook and post questions as you try to work the problems. And please explain things simply, you all know how hard it can be to understand/admitt all those weird relativity things, thanks. It's really not all that hard to understand, unless you imprison yourself with naive preconceptions based on superficial observations. The consequences of doing that may be easily seen by reading the articles posted by crackpots to this newsgroup. If you don't wish to join them, do yourself a favor; Buy a textbook and disregard all replies from anyone who appears unable to correctly explain how to work a problem you have difficulty working. Sorry to tell you that, but you're not helping, in case that's what you wanted to do.
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