The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been measured. Why
are they keep on lying that the speed of light is measured to be c by all
inertial observers??

Ken Seto

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:43:20 -0400, kenseto wrote:

The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been measured.
Why
are they keep on lying that the speed of light is measured to be c by all
inertial observers??

I can't speak for creatures from planet SR but the statement
doen't not appear untrue.

An inertial observer can not be party to any forces so must be
co-moving with any nearby matter.

The relation:
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Images/alphaeq.gif from:
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/alpha.html

*seems* well confirmed for this condition.
You think maybe the standard's labs are pushing
rubber rulers off on an unsuspecting public ?

Sue...



Ken Seto





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kenseto wrote:
The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been measured.

YOU HAVE TO READ WHAT I WRITE.

There have been *LOTS* of measurements of TWLS. just not any since 1983.
There have been many measurements of OWLS, just not any with good enough
resolution to distinguish the difference between c and c+v, where v is
the orbital speed of the earth around the sun.


Rather than wasting your time attempting to discuss physics, you would
be well advised to spend some time LEARNING HOW TO READ.


Tom Roberts

"Tom Roberts" wrote in message
. ..
kenseto wrote:
The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been measured.

YOU HAVE TO READ WHAT I WRITE.

There have been *LOTS* of measurements of TWLS. just not any since 1983.

So why don't you give us some references where TWLS was measured and what
were the procedure used. Specifically how did they measure the distance
between the reflecting mirror and the clock??

There have been many measurements of OWLS, just not any with good enough
resolution to distinguish the difference between c and c+v, where v is
the orbital speed of the earth around the sun.

Why don't you give us the references where OWLS was measured? What procedure
were used to measure the distance between the two clocks.
BTW your assertion that "just not any with good enough resolution to
distinguish the difference between c and c+v, where v is the orbital speed
of the earth around the sun." is baloney. The orbital speed of the earth got
nothing to do with the speed of light. The SR postulate said so.

Ken Seto

"sue jahn" suzysewnshow wrote in message
news | On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:43:20 -0400, kenseto
wrote:
|
| The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been
measured.
| Why
| are they keep on lying that the speed of light is measured to be c
by all
| inertial observers??
|
| I can't speak for creatures from planet SR but the statement
| doen't not appear untrue.

Wow! a TRIPLE negative.
"the statement does not appear true."
Androcles.

Androcles wrote:
"sue jahn" suzysewnshow wrote in message
news | On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:43:20 -0400, kenseto
wrote:
|
| The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been
measured.
| Why
| are they keep on lying that the speed of light is measured to be c
by all
| inertial observers??
|
| I can't speak for creatures from planet SR but the statement
| doen't not appear untrue.

Wow! a TRIPLE negative.
"the statement does not appear true."

LOL!
I just knew you'd be the one the catch that.
Wait'll ya see my skating videos where I am
doing a triple clutz. )

Sue...

Androcles.

"Sue..." wrote in message oups.com...

Androcles wrote:
"sue jahn" suzysewnshow wrote in message
news | On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:43:20 -0400, kenseto
wrote:
|
| The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been
measured.
| Why
| are they keep on lying that the speed of light is measured to be c
by all
| inertial observers??
|
| I can't speak for creatures from planet SR but the statement
| doen't not appear untrue.

Wow! a TRIPLE negative.
"the statement does not appear true."

LOL!
I just knew you'd be the one the catch that.
Wait'll ya see my skating videos where I am
doing a triple clutz. )

Sue...

Rod: It's free right?
I mean, where do I get it?!
Hey Androcles, A-man, share with your old
friend, err me anyway, c'mon buddy, whatayasay, huh?
--
Rod Ryker...
The intricacies of nature is man's cannon fodder.

Androcles.

In sci.physics.relativity, kenseto

wrote
on Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:43:20 GMT
:
The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been measured. Why
are they keep on lying that the speed of light is measured to be c by all
inertial observers??

Ken Seto


It is not measured as c. It is *defined* as c.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how we should properly
measure OWLS? Or would you prefer TWLS?

Especially since there's an inherent lightspeed dependency
in the standard ruler? After all, those copper atoms (to
pick an element at random; one could just as easily use
iron, iron-carbon mix [steel], carbon-hydrogen-oxygen mix
[wood], or any other material sufficiently solid, really)
bind to each other using metallic or covalent bonds
(or, if one's weird enough to postulate a ruler made of
a crystal of sodium chloride or similar such material,
ionic), which are from electrons...

So now, the question is an obvious one: how does one properly
define, say, a meter?

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It's still legal to go .sigless.

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:50:54, "Sue..."
wrote:


Androcles wrote:
"sue jahn" suzysewnshow wrote in message
news | On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:43:20 -0400, kenseto
wrote:
|
| The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been
measured.
| Why
| are they keep on lying that the speed of light is measured to be c
by all
| inertial observers??
|
| I can't speak for creatures from planet SR but the statement
| doen't not appear untrue.

Wow! a TRIPLE negative.
"the statement does not appear true."

LOL!
I just knew you'd be the one the catch that.
Wait'll ya see my skating videos where I am
doing a triple clutz. )

Sue...

Androcles.


Sue: reasoning with Androcles or Kenseto is like
reasoning with a barrel. -will-

Tom Roberts wrote:
kenseto wrote:
The SRians now admitted that the OWLS or TWLS have nver been measured.

YOU HAVE TO READ WHAT I WRITE.

There have been *LOTS* of measurements of TWLS. just not any since 1983.
There have been many measurements of OWLS, just not any with good enough
resolution to distinguish the difference between c and c+v, where v is
the orbital speed of the earth around the sun.


Rather than wasting your time attempting to discuss physics, you would
be well advised to spend some time LEARNING HOW TO READ.


Tom Roberts

xxein: Thank you, Tom. Even if you do not explain why this is
significant, I trust that you have a 'newer' approach to understanding
physics than you had before.

You are progressing. And so should we all.