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Because is impossible to calculate the antiderivative of a function of more than one variable, indefinite multiple integrals do not exist so they are all definite integrals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral Currents, i.e. moving electric charges, produce magnetic fields. There are no magnetic charges. Maxwell's equations tell us how to compute the electric fields and magnetic field produced by charged particles. The terms electrostatics and magnetostatics refer to steady state conditions, when all charges are at rest or only steady currents are flowing. Then the charge densities do not change anywhere. Under those conditions Maxwell's equations are given below... http://electron9.phys.utk.edu/phys13.../m7/Ampere.htm In Section V we derive the electric and magnetic fields from the Coulomb-gauge potentials and show that they are the well known expressions, causal and propagating with speed c, despite the instantaneous nature of the scalar potential. This ground has been traveled before in this journal by Brill and Goodman6 and recently by Rohrlich.7 There is also Problem 6.20 in my book.2 Our discussion here is different and I think more transparent because of the form of our solution for AC. Some aspects of Brill and Goodman come close. In Section VI we discuss briefly the quasi-static limit of the vector potential in the Coulomb gauge and its use to obtain a Lagrangian for the interaction of charged particles that is correct to order 1/c2 in the velocities. Section VII is devoted to a class of gauges we call the velocity gauge (v-gauge) in which the scalar potential propagates with an arbitrary speed v. The Lorenz and Coulomb gauges are limiting cases, v = c and v = , respectively. The gauge function and the potentials are determined, as are the electromagnetic fields (the same as always). http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0204034 Sue... |
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"Sue..." wrote in message oups.com... | | | Because is impossible to calculate the antiderivative of a function of | more than one variable, indefinite multiple integrals do not exist so | they are all definite integrals. | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral | | | Currents, i.e. moving electric charges, produce magnetic fields. BULL****! Changing electric fields produce magnetic fields, "current" is a by-product. Androcles. |
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Androcles wrote: "Sue..." wrote in message oups.com... | | | Because is impossible to calculate the antiderivative of a function of | more than one variable, indefinite multiple integrals do not exist so | they are all definite integrals. | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral | | | Currents, i.e. moving electric charges, produce magnetic fields. BULL****! Changing electric fields produce magnetic fields, "current" is a by-product. Androcles. Charges come in 0.511 MeV packages Eh? I can think of two ways to produce a *change*. You know of a third way? Sue... |
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"Sue..." wrote in message oups.com... | | Androcles wrote: | "Sue..." wrote in message | oups.com... | | | | | | Because is impossible to calculate the antiderivative of a function of | | more than one variable, indefinite multiple integrals do not exist so | | they are all definite integrals. | | | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral | | | | | | Currents, i.e. moving electric charges, produce magnetic fields. | | BULL****! | Changing electric fields produce magnetic fields, "current" | is a by-product. | Androcles. | | Charges come in 0.511 MeV packages Eh? Nope. Charges come in 1,000,000 micro eV packages, by definition of "electron Volt". If you want a charge of 0.511 MeV, you need 511,000 electrons bunched together. They don't like crowds, you'll have a distributed charge. Maybe you are confusing charge with mass. | I can think of two ways to produce a *change*. Can you? How nice. Androcles |
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Androcles wrote: "Sue..." wrote in message oups.com... | | Androcles wrote: | "Sue..." wrote in message | oups.com... | | | | | | Because is impossible to calculate the antiderivative of a function of | | more than one variable, indefinite multiple integrals do not exist so | | they are all definite integrals. | | | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral | | | | | | Currents, i.e. moving electric charges, produce magnetic fields. | | BULL****! | Changing electric fields produce magnetic fields, "current" | is a by-product. | Androcles. | | Charges come in 0.511 MeV packages Eh? Nope. Charges come in 1,000,000 micro eV packages, by definition of "electron Volt". If you want a charge of 0.511 MeV, you need 511,000 electrons bunched together. They don't like crowds, you'll have a distributed charge. Maybe you are confusing charge with mass. | I can think of two ways to produce a *change*. Can you? How nice. Yes, snip, annihilation or however you want to demonstrate it. ;-) Spatial displacement is a second way. You didn't mention a third way. :-( Sue... Androcles |
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"Sue..." wrote in message ups.com... | | Androcles wrote: | "Sue..." wrote in message | oups.com... | | | | Androcles wrote: | | "Sue..." wrote in message | | oups.com... | | | | | | | | | Because is impossible to calculate the antiderivative of a | function of | | | more than one variable, indefinite multiple integrals do not exist | so | | | they are all definite integrals. | | | | | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral | | | | | | | | | Currents, i.e. moving electric charges, produce magnetic fields. | | | | BULL****! | | Changing electric fields produce magnetic fields, "current" | | is a by-product. | | Androcles. | | | | Charges come in 0.511 MeV packages Eh? | | Nope. Charges come in 1,000,000 micro eV packages, | by definition of "electron Volt". If you want a charge of 0.511 MeV, | you need 511,000 electrons bunched together. They don't like crowds, | you'll have a distributed charge. Maybe you are confusing charge with | mass. | | | I can think of two ways to produce a *change*. | | Can you? How nice. | Yes, snip, annihilation or however you | want to demonstrate it. ;-) | Spatial displacement is a second way. | | You didn't mention a third way. :-( | | Sue... Your thread title is "Making Maxwell radiate". Please stay on topic. Androcles. |
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Androcles wrote: "Sue..." wrote in message ups.com... | | Androcles wrote: | "Sue..." wrote in message | oups.com... | | | | Androcles wrote: | | "Sue..." wrote in message | | oups.com... | | | | | | | | | Because is impossible to calculate the antiderivative of a | function of | | | more than one variable, indefinite multiple integrals do not exist | so | | | they are all definite integrals. | | | | | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral | | | | | | | | | Currents, i.e. moving electric charges, produce magnetic fields. | | | | BULL****! | | Changing electric fields produce magnetic fields, "current" | | is a by-product. | | Androcles. | | | | Charges come in 0.511 MeV packages Eh? | | Nope. Charges come in 1,000,000 micro eV packages, | by definition of "electron Volt". If you want a charge of 0.511 MeV, | you need 511,000 electrons bunched together. They don't like crowds, | you'll have a distributed charge. Maybe you are confusing charge with | mass. | | | I can think of two ways to produce a *change*. | | Can you? How nice. | Yes, snip, annihilation or however you | want to demonstrate it. ;-) | Spatial displacement is a second way. | | You didn't mention a third way. :-( | | Sue... Your thread title is "Making Maxwell radiate". Please stay on topic. Well... you are the one that brougt up the 1/r^3 component. Did not. Did. Did not. Did too! I'm telling! Can't! 'cause I will first! )Sue... Androcles. |
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"Sue..." wrote in message ups.com... | | Androcles wrote: | "Sue..." wrote in message | ups.com... | | | | Androcles wrote: | | "Sue..." wrote in message | | oups.com... | | | | | | Androcles wrote: | | | "Sue..." wrote in message | | | oups.com... | | | | | | | | | | | | Because is impossible to calculate the antiderivative of a | | function of | | | | more than one variable, indefinite multiple integrals do not | exist | | so | | | | they are all definite integrals. | | | | | | | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral | | | | | | | | | | | | Currents, i.e. moving electric charges, produce magnetic | fields. | | | | | | BULL****! | | | Changing electric fields produce magnetic fields, "current" | | | is a by-product. | | | Androcles. | | | | | | Charges come in 0.511 MeV packages Eh? | | | | Nope. Charges come in 1,000,000 micro eV packages, | | by definition of "electron Volt". If you want a charge of 0.511 MeV, | | you need 511,000 electrons bunched together. They don't like crowds, | | you'll have a distributed charge. Maybe you are confusing charge | with | | mass. | | | | | I can think of two ways to produce a *change*. | | | | Can you? How nice. | | Yes, snip, annihilation or however you | | want to demonstrate it. ;-) | | Spatial displacement is a second way. | | | | You didn't mention a third way. :-( | | | | Sue... | Your thread title is "Making Maxwell radiate". | Please stay on topic. | Well... you are the one that brougt up | the 1/r^3 component. | Did not. | Did. | Did not. | Did too! | I'm telling! | Can't! 'cause I will first! )Tell my granddaughter. She likes pantomime. My grandson thinks his 5 times table is trivial and boring, no challenge whatsoever, and he's not bothered by germs anymore (but still washes his hands). He's still a little young to explain Einstein and Maxwell to, but already interested in simple electrical circuits as I was at that age. I think I'll buy him a 9V battery of cells for xmas, with a free solenoid. You can buy your own. )Androcles |
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Androcles wrote: "Sue..." wrote in message oups.com... | Charges come in 0.511 MeV packages Eh? Nope. Charges come in 1,000,000 micro eV packages, by definition of "electron Volt". Just out of curiosity, what do you think the definition of "electron volt" is? (It's a unit of energy, not charge) - Randy P.S. 0.511 MeV is the amount of energy E=mc^2 where m is the mass of an electron. |
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