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relativity falsified by wormholes and time travels



 
 
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Old June 20th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Don Giovanni
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Default relativity falsified by wormholes and time travels



Bilge wrote:
member of the idiot brigade:

nobody thinks today that time travel and
wormholes could be for real


If there ae no wormholes, you must be homeless. Maybe you could
steal a cardboard box and live under an einstein-rosen bridge.


the question remains you fokin vegetabled moron

"ae" wormholes or "ae" they not


if wod been, then all the higher intelligens
civilizations from other places had been here
talkin to us


Not if the first thing they read fom this planet was one of you posts.

there are no evidences for such of things


even more, wormholes and time travel violates
the causality principles, first laws of thermodynamics
etc


Wow! I'll bet none of that ever occurred to a physicist. Maybe
you should wite all of the uiversities in the world and suggest
that thermodynamics be part of the physics curriculum.


shut up ******, if you by chance have diploma, it comes
from an internet university for sure ...ahahahaha,


dickhead, you nothen aboput time trabvel and wornholes



in conclusion realtivity is false as well


As well as what?


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Old June 21st 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Bilge
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Default relativity falsified by wormholes and time travels

Don Giovanni, the soap opera,

Bilge wrote:
member of the idiot brigade:

nobody thinks today that time travel and
wormholes could be for real


If there ae no wormholes, you must be homeless. Maybe you could
steal a cardboard box and live under an einstein-rosen bridge.


the question remains you fokin vegetabled moron


What kind of a question is ``you fokin vegetabled moron[sic]''
and why is it remaining?

"ae" wormholes or "ae" they not


You might want to get that cardboard box, ``real soon now,'' because
you aren't likely to lean how to write a coherent sentence before the
next rainstorm.


if wod been, then all the higher intelligens
civilizations from other places had been here
talkin to us


Not if the first thing they read fom this planet was one of you posts.

there are no evidences for such of things


even more, wormholes and time travel violates
the causality principles, first laws of thermodynamics
etc


Wow! I'll bet none of that ever occurred to a physicist. Maybe
you should wite all of the uiversities in the world and suggest
that thermodynamics be part of the physics curriculum.


shut up ******, if you by chance have diploma, it comes
from an internet university for sure ...ahahahaha,


Does this mean I can't count on a letter of reference from you?
Shucks.

dickhead, you nothen aboput time trabvel and wornholes


I've built several time trabvel machines and rented out some
wornholes near trailer park dumpsters to worns just a shade more
eloquent than you.


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Old June 21st 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity
PD
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Default relativity falsified by wormholes and time travels



member wrote:
PD wrote:
member wrote:
nobody thinks today that time travel and
wormholes could be for real

if wod been, then all the higher intelligens
civilizations from other places had been here
talkin to us


I'm not sure you're clear on whether wormholes allow *time* travel (no
change in location) or *space* travel (no change in time). I *think*
you're presuming that wormholes would carry matter through both time
and space.

First of all, nothing in relativity guarantees that even if there were
a wormhole, that it would allow living creatures to survive the trip.


creatures maybe not, but humans can protect themself
from whatever dangers you might say to be


Really!? You have a lot of faith in human abilities to defy physical
laws.


are you saying that a rock throgh a wormhole wouldnt
violate all the violatabledes and causality?


Yes, it's quite possible that it would not violate causality. It's also
not clear that a rock would survive a wormhole. Maybe individual
protons and electrons and photons.



Second, it's not clear that intelligent creatures would *want* to use
wormholes to travel, especially if the traffic were one-way and the
destination unknown.


the intelligent creatures and their computers can do
math and relativity in no time, i cant see that as an
unsolvable problem


I think you have a basic misunderstanding about how science works.
Science learns about physical laws and how to exploit them, not to
defeat them. We *use* gravity; we don't defeat it, for example.



Third, it's not clear that there is any wormhole close to our solar
system that would enable them to visit us.


again, they can build whatever wormholes they wish


You read too much science fiction. Manufacture of a wormhole takes an
astronomical amount of energy, more than any civilization would likely
be able to muster.


the wormholes dont have to be that large, short but
powerful wormholes works equal good


Fourth, it's not clear that, of all the habitable planets in the
vicinity of the nearest wormhole exit, that they would choose us to
visit.


you seems to be confussed about what wormholes are,
they dont need to be large

they works in this way
1) switch on the wormhole
2) do the teleportation
3) switch off the wormhole

the whole thing take no mor then a few microseconds (to
save power)


Again, you read too much science fiction. You don't just "switch on" a
wormhole.



Fifth, it's not clear that, even if they did visit earth, that they
would want to make their presence known to us, let alone communicate
with us.


why not, it will be nice, lets pretend that you discovered
monkeys on mars, wouldn't you like to give a high quality
earthly banana to them? i would


Not necessarily. I think I'd want to observe them from a distance
first.



Sixth, it's not clear that there IS other intelligent life out there to
take advantage of wormholes, even if one existed in our back yard, and
even if I Love Lucy reruns were being beamed through it all the time.


are you trying to convince me that the other higher
civilizations in ouer universe knows nothen about
relativity?


I'm trying to ask you what makes you think there ARE higher
civilizations out there?


they can manage wormholes and time travels at breakfast as
they wish


Uh-huh. And you know this how?




there are no evidences for such of things


This is a little like saying that, because evolution could in principle
cause the development of blue monkeys, but there is no evidence of blue
monkeys, then evolution must be hogwash.



!!!




even more, wormholes and time travel violates
the causality principles, first laws of thermodynamics
etc

in conclusion realtivity is false as well


  #24  
Old June 21st 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Traveler
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Default relativity falsified by wormholes and time travels

In article .com,
"PD" wrote:

Yes, it's quite possible that it would not violate causality. It's also
not clear that a rock would survive a wormhole. Maybe individual
protons and electrons and photons.


Anybody who talks about wormholes and black holes as anything other
than brain-dead, chicken-feather-voodoo physics is a ****ing clueless
crackpot in my book.

Louis Savain

The Silver Bullet: Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix it
http://users.adelphia.net/~lilavois/...eliability.htm
 




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