Anyway, the Bartocci experiment is simply about accelerating
electrons and measuring their impact; it shows that quite nearly
all energy is transferred.

That sounds significant. Is there a URL where an interested
person could review the details?

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Anyway, the Bartocci experiment is simply about accelerating
electrons and measuring their impact; it shows that quite nearly
all energy is transferred.

That sounds significant. Is there a URL where an interested
person could review the details?

URL I don't know. And I spelled the name wrong, sorry!
The paper:
"Speed and Kinetic Energy of Relativistic Electrons", W. Bertozzi,
Am. J. Ph. 1964, Vol.32, pp.551-555

Harald

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Anyway, the Bartocci experiment is simply about accelerating
electrons and measuring their impact; it shows that quite nearly
all energy is transferred.

That sounds significant. Is there a URL where an interested
person could review the details?

URL I don't know. And I spelled the name wrong, sorry!
The paper:
"Speed and Kinetic Energy of Relativistic Electrons", W. Bertozzi,
Am. J. Ph. 1964, Vol.32, pp.551-555

Harald



Here is something:
http://www.autodynamics.org/1984_explanation.html

Well... seeing is believeing so I'll follow up that correspondence
to SLAC and BNL and advise them that 0.511 MeV is the
wrong mass for an electron. ;-)

Sue...

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Anyway, the Bartocci experiment is simply about accelerating
electrons and measuring their impact; it shows that quite nearly
all energy is transferred.

That sounds significant. Is there a URL where an interested
person could review the details?

URL I don't know. And I spelled the name wrong, sorry!
The paper:
"Speed and Kinetic Energy of Relativistic Electrons", W. Bertozzi,
Am. J. Ph. 1964, Vol.32, pp.551-555

Harald



Here is something:
http://www.autodynamics.org/1984_explanation.html

Well... seeing is believeing so I'll follow up that correspondence
to SLAC and BNL and advise them that 0.511 MeV is the
wrong mass for an electron. ;-)

Don't you understand what they admitted?
They have no issue with the Bartozzi results but instead they learned from
it :

"With the Stanford experimental result in hand, and the fortuitous discovery
of the Bertozzi (W. Bertozzi, Am. J. Phys. 32, 551 (1964) experiment, Dr.
Carezani arrived at the conclusion that the two sets of equations, SR and
AD, could not be compared because AD only applies to particles that decay,
not particles that receive energy from an external medium like the electron
in the particle accelerator in the 1984 experiment.
The Stanford experiment was positive: it confirmed the SR KE equation for
electrons receiving energy from the external medium. "
Harald

I am not arguing it says otherwise.
That surely explains the inconsistancy noted
on the SLAC web pages **written for laypeople**
so I will contact the page's owner and suggest
that the laboratory stop using the value of 0.511 MeV
for the mass of an electron. That will make the
***pages for laypeople*** consistant. ;-)

Can I possibly be more compliant with you interpretation?

Sue...

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I am not arguing it says otherwise.
That surely explains the inconsistancy noted
on the SLAC web pages **written for laypeople**
so I will contact the page's owner and suggest
that the laboratory stop using the value of 0.511 MeV
for the mass of an electron. That will make the
***pages for laypeople*** consistant. ;-)

Can I possibly be more compliant with you interpretation?

What "inconsistency" are you're talking about and what other value should
they put up for an electron at standard conditions? Me thinks you're
hallucinating. Here's one for you:
What is the mass do you think of 1 litre of water? Only ***for laypeople***
such things are not clear. Never mind, ride on man! :-))

Harald

What are "standard conditions" ?

Is that like STP?

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What are "standard conditions" ?

Is that like STP?

Yeah

0.511 MeV at STP sounds fine to me. ;-)

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