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How Does Light "Know" How Fast to Travel?
"Great spirits have always encountered violent oppositions from mediocre minds." - A. Einstein One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the velocity of light is the same wherever and whenever it is measured. It is, in the language of physics, invariant. To illustrate this understanding, let us consider an example in which a rocket ship passes Mars on its way towards Earth. On the rocket ship and on Mars are two radio transmitters arranged so that, at the instant the ship passes Mars and transmitters are at the same distance from Earth, both transmitters send a signal towards Earth. Along the route, test stations observe the passage of the signals and report that the signals pass each station simultaneously, exactly in accordance with the requirements of Special Relativity. (Radio signals differ from light signals only in their frequency. Relativistically, their behavior is identical..) This observation presents no problem if the radio signals is are waves propagating through a medium (e.g.- the Aether) as sound does though air. The velocity of a wave propagating through a medium is the velocity of propagation of that wave though the medium. The velocity of propagation of the sound of a gunshot is independent of the velocity of the gun while the velocity of the bullet is not. The observation presents a difficulty, however, if we regard the photons which makeup the radio wave as particles which are emitted from the source and travel ballistically to the target. Such would seem to be the concept of the propagation of light when one considers the apparent banishment of the Aether following the acceptance of Special Relativity. If there is no medium, then the observably same velocity of the two radio waves could only occur if the transmitter on the rocket ship had measured its velocity with respect to the transmitter on Mars and adjusted the velocity of its transmitted signal so as to cause the two signals to travel together. The side by side propagation of the radio signals presents no problem if one accepts that they are a vibrational disturbance traveling through a medium (e.g. - the Aether), but if there is no medium it would seem to require that some sort of "magic" be involved. The presence of magic in physical processes is more difficult for the writer to accept than is the existence of the classical Aether. This conclusion is particularly true since the Aether has been shown to be conventionally unobservable but has never been shown to be non-existent. The latter conclusion results from the fact that physicists have jumped from an unproven assertion to a foregone conclusion. Dr. Einstein did warn that the non-existence of the Aether had not been proven, what had been proven was that it was not necessary for computations of relativistic effects. The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987), "The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special Relativity (1999) located at http://einsteinhoax.com/ . EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS. All Newsposts by this Website are available at http://einsteinhoax.com/postinglog.htm Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts, please do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read at the Website. This posting is merely a summary. E-mail:- The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 5 years. In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by individuals who have mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. Challenges to date have revealed only the responder's inadequacy with one exception for which a correction was provided. |
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2 posts below this one is a 1920 article by Einstein in which he states
in the last paragraph "According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable." Ether is the reference frame EMR uses to determine its speed. Mho wrote: How Does Light "Know" How Fast to Travel? "Great spirits have always encountered violent oppositions from mediocre minds." - A. Einstein One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the velocity of light is the same wherever and whenever it is measured. It is, in the language of physics, invariant. To illustrate this understanding, let us consider an example in which a rocket ship passes Mars on its way towards Earth. On the rocket ship and on Mars are two radio transmitters arranged so that, at the instant the ship passes Mars and transmitters are at the same distance from Earth, both transmitters send a signal towards Earth. Along the route, test stations observe the passage of the signals and report that the signals pass each station simultaneously, exactly in accordance with the requirements of Special Relativity. (Radio signals differ from light signals only in their frequency. Relativistically, their behavior is identical..) This observation presents no problem if the radio signals is are waves propagating through a medium (e.g.- the Aether) as sound does though air. The velocity of a wave propagating through a medium is the velocity of propagation of that wave though the medium. The velocity of propagation of the sound of a gunshot is independent of the velocity of the gun while the velocity of the bullet is not. The observation presents a difficulty, however, if we regard the photons which makeup the radio wave as particles which are emitted from the source and travel ballistically to the target. Such would seem to be the concept of the propagation of light when one considers the apparent banishment of the Aether following the acceptance of Special Relativity. If there is no medium, then the observably same velocity of the two radio waves could only occur if the transmitter on the rocket ship had measured its velocity with respect to the transmitter on Mars and adjusted the velocity of its transmitted signal so as to cause the two signals to travel together. The side by side propagation of the radio signals presents no problem if one accepts that they are a vibrational disturbance traveling through a medium (e.g. - the Aether), but if there is no medium it would seem to require that some sort of "magic" be involved. The presence of magic in physical processes is more difficult for the writer to accept than is the existence of the classical Aether. This conclusion is particularly true since the Aether has been shown to be conventionally unobservable but has never been shown to be non-existent. The latter conclusion results from the fact that physicists have jumped from an unproven assertion to a foregone conclusion. Dr. Einstein did warn that the non-existence of the Aether had not been proven, what had been proven was that it was not necessary for computations of relativistic effects. The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987), "The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special Relativity (1999) located at http://einsteinhoax.com/ . EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS. All Newsposts by this Website are available at http://einsteinhoax.com/postinglog.htm Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts, please do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read at the Website. This posting is merely a summary. E-mail:- The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 5 years. In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by individuals who have mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. Challenges to date have revealed only the responder's inadequacy with one exception for which a correction was provided. |
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Mho:
How Does Light "Know" How Fast to Travel? It reads the speed limit signs. How else? "Great spirits have always encountered violent oppositions from mediocre minds." - A. Einstein That explains your persistent violent spamming of the newsgroups. One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the velocity of light is the same wherever and whenever it is measured. It is, in the language of physics, invariant. To illustrate this understanding, let us consider an example in which a rocket ship passes Mars on its way towards Earth. On the rocket ship and on Mars are two radio transmitters arranged so that, at the instant the ship passes Mars and transmitters are at the same distance from Earth, both transmitters send a signal towards Earth. Along the route, test stations observe the passage of the signals and report that the signals pass each station simultaneously, exactly in accordance with the requirements of Special Relativity. (Radio signals differ from light signals only in their frequency. Relativistically, their behavior is identical..) This observation presents no problem if the radio signals is are waves propagating through a medium (e.g.- the Aether) as sound does though air. The velocity of a wave propagating through a medium is the velocity of propagation of that wave though the medium. The velocity of propagation of the sound of a gunshot is independent of the velocity of the gun while the velocity of the bullet is not. The observation presents a difficulty, however, if we regard the photons which makeup the radio wave as particles which are emitted from the source and travel ballistically to the target. Such would seem to be the concept of the propagation of light when one considers the apparent banishment of the Aether following the acceptance of Special Relativity. If there is no medium, then the observably same velocity of the two radio waves could only occur if the transmitter on the rocket ship had measured its velocity with respect to the transmitter on Mars and adjusted the velocity of its transmitted signal so as to cause the two signals to travel together. The side by side propagation of the radio signals presents no problem if one accepts that they are a vibrational disturbance traveling through a medium (e.g. - the Aether), but if there is no medium it would seem to require that some sort of "magic" be involved. The presence of magic in physical processes is more difficult for the writer to accept than is the existence of the classical Aether. This conclusion is particularly true since the Aether has been shown to be conventionally unobservable but has never been shown to be non-existent. The latter conclusion results from the fact that physicists have jumped from an unproven assertion to a foregone conclusion. Dr. Einstein did warn that the non-existence of the Aether had not been proven, what had been proven was that it was not necessary for computations of relativistic effects. The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987), "The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special Relativity (1999) located at http://einsteinhoax.com/ . EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS. All Newsposts by this Website are available at http://einsteinhoax.com/postinglog.htm Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts, please do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read at the Website. This posting is merely a summary. E-mail:- The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 5 years. In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by individuals who have mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. Challenges to date have revealed only the responder's inadequacy with one exception for which a correction was provided. |
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Are you sure that you have understood why there is a universal constant
velocity in relativity? See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity_for_beginners where all of this is explained. |
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The assumption in modern relativity is that the universe is a (3+1)
dimensional manifold with a metric: ds^2 = dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2 - (cdt)^2 In a flat space-time of this type s^2 is measured to be the same for all observers (see the link for an extended explanation of why this is so http:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_*relativity_for_beginners ). s^2 = 0 when the velocity of an object relative to any observer is c ie: if an object is moving along a common x axis at v metres per second then: 0 = (vt)^2 - (ct)^2 and v=c. In other words a space-time interval of zero occurs when something is moving at c in a (3+1)D manifold with the given metric and all observers will measure this object to have the same velocity, c. This only happens when the space-time interval is zero and c is a universal constant. Best Wishes Alex Green |
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I agree, that so far we cannot endow the ether with anything. However,
I have no problem applying motion of all things relative to it. The ether is the reference frame and by definition, doesn't move. |
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