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Physical Dimensions in General Relativity



 
 
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Old May 13th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.space,sci.astro,sci.military
Jack Sarfatti
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Default Physical Dimensions in General Relativity

OK we hit a temporary snag solved below. In elementary physics first
rule is to check your units and physical dimensions. Don't mix apples
with oranges etc. Yet GR theorists do that nonchalantly and sloppily
even in text books.

For example, the SSS metric is typically written as

gtt = -(1 - 2GM/c^2r) [dimensionless]

grr = (1 - 2GM/c^2r)^-1 [dimensionless]

But hold on

gthetatheta = r^2 [area]

gphiphi = r^2sin^2theta [area]

Where we have the incommensurate basis set of Cartan 1-forms

dx^0 = cdt
dx^1 = dr
dx^2 = dtheta
dx^3 = dphi

With the Grassmann basis sort of "Clifford" algebra" of 2^4 = 16
p-forms, p = 0,1,2,3,4

*p-form = (4 - p)-form, when N = 4.

1

dx^u

dx^u/\dx^v

dx^u/\dx^v/\dx^w

dx^u/\dx^v/\dx^w/\dx^l

This gives an incommensurate set of Levi-Civita connection field
components in the hovering LNIFs

(LC)^001 = [2(1 - 2GM/c^2r)]^-1 (1 - 2GM/c^2r),r [1/length]

(LC)^122 = -r(1 - 2GM/c^2r) [length]

(LC)^233 = -sinthetacostheta [dimensionless]

(LC)^100 = (1/2)(1 - 2GM/c^2r),r(1 - 2GM/c^2r) [1/length]

(LC)^133 = -(rsin^2theta)(1 - 2GM/c^2r) [length]

(LC)^313 = (LC)^212 = 1/r [1/length]

(LC)^111 = (1/2)(1 - 2GM/c^2r)(1 - 2GM/c^2r)^-1,r [1/length]

(LC)^323 = cottheta [dimensionless]

all other (LC) identically & globally zero in this FRAME BUNDLE of
hovering LNIFs all over this toy model 4D space-time

My original suggestion gthetatheta = gphiphi = 1 will not work here
because physically we have a stretch-squeeze tidal curvature that
requires the theta dependence in addition to the radial dependence.

Nevertheless we MUST use commensurate infinitesimal basis sets for our
local frames and the (LC) components MUST all be of the same physical
dimension in order to define consistent Diff(4) covariant derivatives.

For example

Au;v = Au,v - (LC)uv^wAw

The GRAVITY-MATTER MINIMAL COUPLING SUM (LC)uv^wAw must have physically
commensurate (LC) components because Au is arbitrary! For example, Au
can be the Maxwell EM vector potential, and all the components of Au
have same physical dimensions.

Therefore ALL the (LC) MUST obey [LC] = 1/length

So, how to we accomplish this?

Simple, use engineering dimensional analysis and introduce a scale L.

What is L? Is L = Lp = (hG/c^3)^1/2 or is L = GM/c^2 or?

For now let's call it "L".

Therefore the SSS metric is now the physically commensurate
dimensionless array

gtt = -(1 - 2GM/c^2r)

grr = (1 - 2GM/c^2r)^-1

gthetatheta = (r/L)^2

gphiphi = (r/L)^2sin^2theta

Where we NOW have the commensurate set of basic 1-forms

dx^0 = cdt
dx^1 = dr
dx^2 = Ldtheta
dx^3 = Ldphi

Note that

,0 = (1/c),t

,1 = ,r

,2 = (1/L),theta

,3 = (l/L),phi

Therefore, all the (LC) are now [1/length]

LC)^001 = [2(1 - 2GM/c^2r)]^-1 (1 - 2GM/c^2r),r

(LC)^122 = -(r/L^2)(1 - 2GM/c^2r)

(LC)^233 = -(1/L)sinthetacostheta

(LC)^100 = (1/2)(1 - 2GM/c^2r),r(1 - 2GM/c^2r)

(LC)^133 = -(rsin^2theta/L^2)(1 - 2GM/c^2r)

(LC)^313 = (LC)^212 = 1/r

(LC)^111 = (1/2)(1 - 2GM/c^2r)(1 - 2GM/c^2r)^-1,r

(LC)^323 = (1/L)cottheta [dimensionless]

The Riemann-Christoffel tensor is now dimensionally self-consistent,
i.e. 1/Area

Note that L cancels out of the frame invariant

ds^2 = guvdx^udx^v

and it must cancel out of any local physical quantity.

In particular it must cancel out of the geodesic equation and the tidal
geodesic deviation.

It's pretty obvious that L will be physically locally unobservable. It's
a bit like the Weyl gauge parameter.

Note that the geodesic equation for a non-spinning point test particle is

D^2x^u/ds^2 = d^2x^u/ds^2 - (LC)^uvw(dx^v/ds)(dx^w/ds) = 0

So the 1/L's in the (LC)s cancel the L's in x2 & x^3

Similarly with geodesic deviation

d(x^u - x'^u)/ds = R^uvwl(x^v - x'^v)(dx^w/ds)(dx^l/ds)

Note that (LC)^uvw and R^uvwl are NEVER MEASURED DIRECTLY in isolation.
What is measured is

D^2x^u/ds^2

and

d(x^u - x'^u)/ds






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Old May 13th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.space,sci.astro,sci.military
Dirk Van de moortel
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Default Physical Dimensions in General Relativity


"Jack Sarfatti" wrote in message m...
OK we hit a temporary snag solved below. In elementary physics first
rule is to check your units and physical dimensions. Don't mix apples
with oranges etc. Yet GR theorists do that nonchalantly and sloppily
even in text books.

For example, the SSS metric is typically written as

gtt = -(1 - 2GM/c^2r) [dimensionless]

grr = (1 - 2GM/c^2r)^-1 [dimensionless]

But hold on

gthetatheta = r^2 [area]

gphiphi = r^2sin^2theta [area]


So what? Do they ever add grr to gthetatheta ?
They add
gtt c dt c dt (area)
grr dr dr (area)
gthetatheta dtheta dtheta (area)
gphiphi dphi dphi (area)

Dirk Vdm


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Old May 13th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.space,sci.astro,sci.military
Dirk Van de moortel
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Default Physical Dimensions in General Relativity


"Dirk Van de moortel" wrote in message ...

"Jack Sarfatti" wrote in message m...
OK we hit a temporary snag solved below. In elementary physics first
rule is to check your units and physical dimensions. Don't mix apples
with oranges etc. Yet GR theorists do that nonchalantly and sloppily
even in text books.

For example, the SSS metric is typically written as

gtt = -(1 - 2GM/c^2r) [dimensionless]

grr = (1 - 2GM/c^2r)^-1 [dimensionless]

But hold on

gthetatheta = r^2 [area]

gphiphi = r^2sin^2theta [area]


So what? Do they ever add grr to gthetatheta ?
They add
gtt c dt c dt (area)
grr dr dr (area)
gthetatheta dtheta dtheta (area)
gphiphi dphi dphi (area)

Dirk Vdm


Oops... I hadn't seen I was replying to a write only troll bot
Sorry, groups.

Dirk Vdm


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Old May 13th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.space,sci.astro,sci.military
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Default Physical Dimensions in General Relativity

Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
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Sorry, groups.


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