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Gravity is nothing more than a magnetic field acting on a mass.
this
is the
nature of a very large magnet.

Uh, you're saying Gravity = Magnetism? Or that that it acts like
magnetism? So, if you line up the north pole of one magnet with the
north pole of another, they will repel. Howz that work with gravity?


There is no such thing as gravity. It's magnetism always has been
allways
will be. Gravity is just a term used by mankind for something they
can't
explain.

[snip]

So what kind of bar magnet keeps people on the ground? And when we stand
on
our
heads shouldn't we be repelled from the surface?

One the size of the earth.
No we are not magnets, and if we were we wouldn't be strong enough to be
repelled by the earths magnetic field. However all mass is effected by
magnetism.


You said above that "there is no such thing as gravity". So if we aren't
magnets
what force keeps us on the ground? Then you make the ridiculous claim that
if
we were we wouldn't be "strong enough" to be repelled. Even the weakest
magnet is repelled when like poles are facing each other. Then you make the
obviously false claim that all mass is "effected" by magnetism. Ever try to
pick up a piece of wood with a magnet? or a piece of aluminum foil? or even
stainless steel? Only a small class of materials is magnetic. However, all
mass
is affected by gravity, which doesn't have north and south poles and can't
be
shielded. Go back to science class before you post more nonsense.

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So what kind of bar magnet keeps people on the ground? And
when we stand on our heads shouldn't we be repelled from the
surface?

One the size of the earth.
No we are not magnets, and if we were we wouldn't be strong
enough to be repelled by the earths magnetic field. However all
mass is effected by magnetism.

Perhaps true. Diamagnetism, which counters any applied magnetic field, is
pretty common. After that is paramagnetism and ferromagnetism.

Neutrons have mass. How are they affected by a magnetic field?

David A. Smith


Yes neutrons have a mass. however the mass is leptonic therefore it's just
slightly effected more or less just excited by it. The smaller the mass the
less the effects are. It may get to the point where the mass is so small
that it isn't effected by it. Mankind is going in the wrong direction we
should be looking at the greater masses not the leptonic masses.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, ring_theory wrote:


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So what kind of bar magnet keeps people on the ground? And
when we stand on our heads shouldn't we be repelled from the
surface?

One the size of the earth.
No we are not magnets, and if we were we wouldn't be strong
enough to be repelled by the earths magnetic field. However all
mass is effected by magnetism.

Perhaps true. Diamagnetism, which counters any applied magnetic field, is
pretty common. After that is paramagnetism and ferromagnetism.

Neutrons have mass. How are they affected by a magnetic field?

David A. Smith


Yes neutrons have a mass. however the mass is leptonic therefore it's just
slightly effected more or less just excited by it. The smaller the mass the
less the effects are. It may get to the point where the mass is so small
that it isn't effected by it. Mankind is going in the wrong direction we
should be looking at the greater masses not the leptonic masses.

Neutrons are hadrons not leptons. They're boundstates of quarks.

ring_theory wrote:

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So what kind of bar magnet keeps people on the ground? And
when we stand on our heads shouldn't we be repelled from the
surface?

One the size of the earth.
No we are not magnets, and if we were we wouldn't be strong
enough to be repelled by the earths magnetic field. However all
mass is effected by magnetism.

Perhaps true. Diamagnetism, which counters any applied magnetic field, is
pretty common. After that is paramagnetism and ferromagnetism.

Neutrons have mass. How are they affected by a magnetic field?

David A. Smith


Yes neutrons have a mass. however the mass is leptonic therefore it's just
slightly effected more or less just excited by it. The smaller the mass the
less the effects are. It may get to the point where the mass is so small
that it isn't effected by it. Mankind is going in the wrong direction we
should be looking at the greater masses not the leptonic masses.

Neutrons are leptons????????

What do you think that the relative masses of a proton
and a neutron are?

What do you think the are the differences between
the forces that intermediate interactions between
hadrons and leptons?

You know less about physics than my pet canary.

John Anderson

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So what kind of bar magnet keeps people on the ground? And
when we stand on our heads shouldn't we be repelled from the
surface?

One the size of the earth.
No we are not magnets, and if we were we wouldn't be strong
enough to be repelled by the earths magnetic field. However all
mass is effected by magnetism.

Perhaps true. Diamagnetism, which counters any applied magnetic
field, is
pretty common. After that is paramagnetism and ferromagnetism.

Neutrons have mass. How are they affected by a magnetic field?

David A. Smith


Yes neutrons have a mass. however the mass is leptonic therefore it's
just
slightly effected more or less just excited by it. The smaller the mass
the
less the effects are. It may get to the point where the mass is so small
that it isn't effected by it. Mankind is going in the wrong direction we
should be looking at the greater masses not the leptonic masses.

Neutrons are leptons????????

What do you think that the relative masses of a proton
and a neutron are?

What do you think the are the differences between
the forces that intermediate interactions between
hadrons and leptons?

You know less about physics than my pet canary.

John Anderson

At no point did I say they are leptons I said they are leptonic. Meaning
they are very small. I know less than a canary about physics? Let me get
this strait You dedicate your life to the sciences trying to explain gravity
at the "leptonic" level, In a universe that consists of very large mass? Hey
buddy i hate to break this to you but we live on a large magnet orbiting
around another very large magnet, with other large magnets orbiting around
it. Yet you keep ****ing with little or no mass? It's people like you that
hinder mankind.

Ring

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From: "ring_theory"
Gravity is nothing more than a magnetic field acting on a mass.
this
is the
nature of a very large magnet.

Uh, you're saying Gravity = Magnetism? Or that that it acts like
magnetism? So, if you line up the north pole of one magnet with the
north pole of another, they will repel. Howz that work with
gravity?


There is no such thing as gravity. It's magnetism always has been
allways
will be. Gravity is just a term used by mankind for something they
can't
explain.

[snip]

So what kind of bar magnet keeps people on the ground? And when we
stand
on
our
heads shouldn't we be repelled from the surface?

One the size of the earth.
No we are not magnets, and if we were we wouldn't be strong enough to be
repelled by the earths magnetic field. However all mass is effected by
magnetism.


You said above that "there is no such thing as gravity". So if we aren't
magnets
what force keeps us on the ground? Then you make the ridiculous claim that
if
we were we wouldn't be "strong enough" to be repelled. Even the weakest
magnet is repelled when like poles are facing each other. Then you make
the
obviously false claim that all mass is "effected" by magnetism. Ever try
to
pick up a piece of wood with a magnet? or a piece of aluminum foil? or
even
stainless steel? Only a small class of materials is magnetic. However, all
mass
is affected by gravity, which doesn't have north and south poles and can't
be
shielded. Go back to science class before you post more nonsense.





What part of "we live on a big magnet" don't you understand. Maybe it's the
fact that we even named the poles North and South? What about the compas
maybe that works on magnetic fields?

You ask:
"So if we aren't magnets what force keeps us on the ground?"

We are of a mass, magnets attract mass. Just because you can't pickup a tree
with a barmagnet don't mean that a magnet the size of the earth can't
attract it's mass. That's the problem with mankinds thinking, we think just
because we can't replicate it in a lab than it's not possible. Yeah even the
weakest magnet will repell when like poles are facing eachother I agree
fully. However the size and field strengths of the magnets don't differ
like a 1" barmagnet to a magnet the size of the earth. Even the largest EM
on the planet is dwarfed by the shear size of the earth and couldn't produce
a strong enough magnetic field to repell its self from the planet. there is
just no way to do the experiment and if we did have a magnet the size of the
earth to toy with we would be doing all we could to divert it so they didn't
attract eachother. as it would be the end of mankind.

There is no such thing as gravity it's simply the nature of an earth sized
magnet.

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From: "ring_theory"
Gravity is nothing more than a magnetic field acting on a mass.
this
is the
nature of a very large magnet.

Uh, you're saying Gravity = Magnetism? Or that that it acts like
magnetism? So, if you line up the north pole of one magnet with
the
north pole of another, they will repel. Howz that work with
gravity?


There is no such thing as gravity. It's magnetism always has been
allways
will be. Gravity is just a term used by mankind for something they
can't
explain.

[snip]

So what kind of bar magnet keeps people on the ground? And when we
stand
on
our
heads shouldn't we be repelled from the surface?

One the size of the earth.
No we are not magnets, and if we were we wouldn't be strong enough to
be
repelled by the earths magnetic field. However all mass is effected by
magnetism.


You said above that "there is no such thing as gravity". So if we aren't
magnets
what force keeps us on the ground? Then you make the ridiculous claim
that
if
we were we wouldn't be "strong enough" to be repelled. Even the weakest
magnet is repelled when like poles are facing each other. Then you make
the
obviously false claim that all mass is "effected" by magnetism. Ever try
to
pick up a piece of wood with a magnet? or a piece of aluminum foil? or
even
stainless steel? Only a small class of materials is magnetic. However,
all
mass
is affected by gravity, which doesn't have north and south poles and
can't
be
shielded. Go back to science class before you post more nonsense.





What part of "we live on a big magnet" don't you understand. Maybe it's
the
fact that we even named the poles North and South? What about the compas
maybe that works on magnetic fields?


No one is saying that the earth is not a big magnet. However, this does not
mean
that gravity is the same as magnetism. If it were, theorists would not be
having so
much trouble unifying the force of gravity with that of electromagnetism.

You ask:
"So if we aren't magnets what force keeps us on the ground?"

We are of a mass, magnets attract mass.

Magnets do not attract mass. They attract magnetic materials. The strength
of
attraction is independent of the mass, but depends on the kind of material.

Just because you can't pickup a tree
with a barmagnet don't mean that a magnet the size of the earth can't
attract it's mass.

Just because the earth is large doesn't mean that it has a large magnetic
field.
The magnets in your stereo speakers are probably orders of magnitude
stronger
than the magnetic field of the earth.

That's the problem with mankinds thinking, we think just
because we can't replicate it in a lab than it's not possible. Yeah even
the
weakest magnet will repell when like poles are facing eachother I agree
fully. However the size and field strengths of the magnets don't differ
like a 1" barmagnet to a magnet the size of the earth. Even the largest EM
on the planet is dwarfed by the shear size of the earth and couldn't
produce
a strong enough magnetic field to repell its self from the planet.

A magnetic field either attracts or repels. There is nothing to hold a
magnet down
if it is arranged to repel. Nothing, that is, except GRAVITY which is not
magnetism.

there is
just no way to do the experiment and if we did have a magnet the size of
the
earth to toy with we would be doing all we could to divert it so they
didn't
attract eachother. as it would be the end of mankind.

There is no such thing as gravity it's simply the nature of an earth sized
magnet.

The earth size magnet has lost 10% of its field strength in the last 150
years and
is predicted to lose it all in 1500 to 2000 years. It has reversed direction
hundreds
of times in the last 100 million years or so, yet the planet continues to
orbit as if
nothing has changed. That's because gravity is not magnetism.

However, it appears that you don't want to be confused by facts. You are
well
on your way to achieving the status of first-class crank. Actually, that's
more
like third-class crank. This theory isn't worth any more. Good bye.

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What part of "we live on a big magnet" don't you understand. Maybe it's
the
fact that we even named the poles North and South? What about the compas
maybe that works on magnetic fields?


No one is saying that the earth is not a big magnet. However, this does
not
mean
that gravity is the same as magnetism. If it were, theorists would not be
having so
much trouble unifying the force of gravity with that of electromagnetism.

Magnetism and electromagnetism are both magnetism.
Gravity is magnetism. It's beyond your capability to understand that and
that's fine with me. The earth was concidered to be flat.

Mankind eventually figured it out. So there is hope for you.


You ask:
"So if we aren't magnets what force keeps us on the ground?"

We are of a mass, magnets attract mass.

Magnets do not attract mass. They attract magnetic materials. The strength
of
attraction is independent of the mass, but depends on the kind of
material.

Just because you can't pickup a tree
with a barmagnet don't mean that a magnet the size of the earth can't
attract it's mass.

Just because the earth is large doesn't mean that it has a large magnetic
field.



What? do you think before you type? the earths magnetic field permiates well
into the galaxy and is strong enough to keep the moon in check.



The magnets in your stereo speakers are probably orders of magnitude
stronger
than the magnetic field of the earth.


I imagine so, however they lack one thing, MASS.


That's the problem with mankinds thinking, we think just
because we can't replicate it in a lab than it's not possible. Yeah even
the
weakest magnet will repell when like poles are facing eachother I agree
fully. However the size and field strengths of the magnets don't differ
like a 1" barmagnet to a magnet the size of the earth. Even the largest
EM
on the planet is dwarfed by the shear size of the earth and couldn't
produce
a strong enough magnetic field to repell its self from the planet.

A magnetic field either attracts or repels. There is nothing to hold a
magnet down
if it is arranged to repel. Nothing, that is, except GRAVITY which is not
magnetism.


"Gravity" is the overwhelming magnetism that holds everything down.
You keep thinking about barmagnets and rare earth speaker magnets as well as
electromagnets all of which are very small in comparison to the earths mass
and magnetism.

there is
just no way to do the experiment and if we did have a magnet the size of
the earth to toy with we would be doing all we could to divert it so they
didn't attract eachother. as it would be the end of mankind.

There is no such thing as gravity it's simply the nature of an earth
sized
magnet.

The earth size magnet has lost 10% of its field strength in the last 150
years and
is predicted to lose it all in 1500 to 2000 years.

This planet has been doing this dance for millions of years. I'm sure the
field fluxuates quite regularly however i don't think it will ever dissapate
to nothing.


It has reversed direction
hundreds
of times in the last 100 million years or so, yet the planet continues to
orbit as if
nothing has changed. That's because gravity is not magnetism.

Yea it's reversed but that fact doesn't change the fact that the magnetism
is still here was here and will always be here till a drastic change in mass
of the planet happens.



However, it appears that you don't want to be confused by facts. You are
well
on your way to achieving the status of first-class crank. Actually, that's
more
like third-class crank. This theory isn't worth any more. Good bye.


I'll not be confused by facts. Fact is earth is a magnet, magnets attract
and repulse. The attraction is called gravity by mankind and fact is we
havn't made a big enough magnet to observe the repulsion. If we did we would
be happily trekking across the universe.

We are carbon base am I correct? If so carbon is one of the elements that
are capable of supporting magnetism. However we also have a hodgepodge of
other minerals in us such as iron etc.

So maybe I am a crank, or maybe looney, or just a little crazy for going
against the grain of relative thinking. However if there wasn't people like
me willing to go the extra mile to prove something. mankind would still be
marveling at fire and think the earth is flat.

Anti-Gravity Bah! I should think mankind should understand gravity before we
concerne ourselfs with antigravity. However some of the simplest things
elude mankind.

Ring

Magnetic field is still the gain in mass pushing the atom to less mass.
The parts of the atom still have more mass on one side .
EMF waves colide and raise the energy gradiant or pass by and lower
the energy gradiant between electron and wave .
Idiot.

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What part of "we live on a big magnet" don't you understand.
Maybe it's the fact that we even named the poles North and
South? What about the compas maybe that works on
magnetic fields?


No one is saying that the earth is not a big magnet. However,
this does not mean that gravity is the same as magnetism. If
it were, theorists would not be having so much trouble unifying
the force of gravity with that of electromagnetism.

Magnetism and electromagnetism are both magnetism.
Gravity is magnetism.

Prove this. Reverse the magnetic field, and float something away.
Dcoumetn same. Publish a paper, and become famous. We'll all be happy to
have "known you when...".

It's beyond your capability to understand that and
that's fine with me. The earth was concidered to be flat.

Mankind eventually figured it out. So there is hope for you.

Is there hope for you?

David A. Smith