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Is Matter Mainly Made Of Nothing?



 
 
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Old November 28th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Matalog
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Is it true that most of anything (on earth anyway - not dark matter etc.) is
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from nothing?
Just Space Between Things? (things being the nuclei and electrons).


If this is true is there an average percentage of how much of things are
nothing?

Please give any information you can on this subject.

Thanks a lot.


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Old November 28th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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"Matalog" wrote in message
...
Is it true that most of anything (on earth anyway - not dark matter

etc.) is
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from

nothing?
Just Space Between Things? (things being the nuclei and electrons).


If this is true is there an average percentage of how much of things

are
nothing?

Please give any information you can on this subject.

Thanks a lot.


Sooner or later, everything decays to iron or nothing.
Things smaller than iron can't be made of iron so
things must be made of nothing.
Simple... ;-)
Sue...





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Old November 28th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
The Ghost In The Machine
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In sci.physics.relativity, Matalog

wrote
on Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:03:57 GMT
:
Is it true that most of anything (on earth anyway - not dark matter etc.) is
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from nothing?
Just Space Between Things? (things being the nuclei and electrons).


If this is true is there an average percentage of how much of things are
nothing?

Please give any information you can on this subject.

Thanks a lot.


Well, there's a couple of issues here.

First, yes, matter is mostly empty space. The size of a copper
atom is about 255.6 pm in diameter (give or take; QM ensures that
the actual boundaries of an atom are *very* fuzzy!).

By contrast, the proton Compton wavelength (which is probably
the best measurement for the size of a proton, as it's also
rather fuzzy) is given as 1.321 * 10^-15 m -- which is almost
200,000 times smaller. (The newtron Compton wavelength isn't
much different: 1.320 * 10^-15 m.) Even if one gathers either
63 or 65 nucleons into a fuzzy ball, one might get an approximate
diameter of about 5.5 * 10^-15 m for the shebang -- although that
value is subject to some modification, depending on how closely
the nucleons "pack".

There's no way we'll really know unless one builds an accelerator
the size of a planetary orbit to generate the requisite energies,
but protons and neutrons are themselves mostly empty space; each
has three quarks (proton = up up down; neutron = up down down).
Quarks are currently modeled as points with charge and mass.

HTH

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Old November 28th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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"Matalog" wrote in message
...
Is it true that most of anything (on earth anyway - not dark matter
etc.) is
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from
nothing?
Just Space Between Things? (things being the nuclei and electrons).


If this is true is there an average percentage of how much of things
are
nothing?

Please give any information you can on this subject.

Thanks a lot.

Go to library and start reading.
The amount of material on the subject is far too great for this
newsgroup to disseminate in a few posts.
Androcles.




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Old November 28th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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"Matalog" wrote in message
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Is it true that most of anything (on earth anyway - not dark matter etc.)

is
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from nothing?
Just Space Between Things? (things being the nuclei and electrons).


If this is true is there an average percentage of how much of things are
nothing?

Please give any information you can on this subject.

Thanks a lot.


Take a peek at http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/physics.html

Thamks
Bill


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Old November 28th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Matalog
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That's very informative. Thanks a lot. I just discovered the Subatomic
Universe Theory myself too. It must be real.








"Bill Hobba" wrote in message
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"Matalog" wrote in message
...
Is it true that most of anything (on earth anyway - not dark matter

etc.)
is
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from

nothing?
Just Space Between Things? (things being the nuclei and electrons).


If this is true is there an average percentage of how much of things are
nothing?

Please give any information you can on this subject.

Thanks a lot.


Take a peek at http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/physics.html

Thamks
Bill




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Old November 28th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
robert j. kolker
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Matalog wrote:
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from nothing?


Something like that. Sort of like -Seinfeld-. Matter is something like
nothing, but nothing like something except when it is.

Bob Kolker

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Old November 29th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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"Matalog" wrote in message
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That's very informative. Thanks a lot. I just discovered the Subatomic
Universe Theory myself too. It must be real.


I do not understand what you mean by 'Subatomic Universe Theory'. The two
theories that together describe all known physics are General Relativity and
The Standard Model. The best introduction I know of general relativity is
the following excellent article by John Baez -
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/einstein/. At a technical level see
http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level...l3/frames.html. For the
Standard Model take a look at
http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/vvc/theory/model.html at a technical level see
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-ph/pdf/9812/9812242.pdf One of the great
unsolved problems of physics is how to combine the two theories together.
But is it wise to understand the problem is developing a theory valid to all
energies - providing we have a cutoff then the two theories can be combined
quite well - see http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/9512/9512024.pdf.

Thanks
Bill









"Bill Hobba" wrote in message
...

"Matalog" wrote in message
...
Is it true that most of anything (on earth anyway - not dark matter

etc.)
is
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from

nothing?
Just Space Between Things? (things being the nuclei and electrons).


If this is true is there an average percentage of how much of things

are
nothing?

Please give any information you can on this subject.

Thanks a lot.


Take a peek at http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/physics.html

Thamks
Bill






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Old November 29th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Matalog
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Default Is Matter Mainly Made Of Nothing?

I saw in that article you gave the link to about the "Subatomic Universe
Theory" - Have a look at it.






Thanks for your help.








"Bill Hobba" wrote in message
...

"Matalog" wrote in message
...
That's very informative. Thanks a lot. I just discovered the Subatomic
Universe Theory myself too. It must be real.


I do not understand what you mean by 'Subatomic Universe Theory'. The two
theories that together describe all known physics are General Relativity

and
The Standard Model. The best introduction I know of general relativity is
the following excellent article by John Baez -
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/einstein/. At a technical level see
http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level...l3/frames.html. For

the
Standard Model take a look at
http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/vvc/theory/model.html at a technical level

see
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-ph/pdf/9812/9812242.pdf One of the great
unsolved problems of physics is how to combine the two theories together.
But is it wise to understand the problem is developing a theory valid to

all
energies - providing we have a cutoff then the two theories can be

combined
quite well - see http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/9512/9512024.pdf.

Thanks
Bill









"Bill Hobba" wrote in message
...

"Matalog" wrote in message
...
Is it true that most of anything (on earth anyway - not dark matter

etc.)
is
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from

nothing?
Just Space Between Things? (things being the nuclei and electrons).


If this is true is there an average percentage of how much of things

are
nothing?

Please give any information you can on this subject.

Thanks a lot.

Take a peek at http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/physics.html

Thamks
Bill








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Old November 29th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Henri Wilson
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:02:47 -0500, "robert j. kolker"
wrote:



Matalog wrote:
made up of nothing? Even lead - Is most of lead made mostly from nothing?


Matter is made of smaller lumps of matter.

It goes on forever.

There is no absolute size.

1 nanometre is no more unusual than 1000 billion LYs.


Something like that. Sort of like -Seinfeld-. Matter is something like
nothing, but nothing like something except when it is.

Bob Kolker



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