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Galilean/Newtonian Invariance
-------------------------------------------------- Linear equations ------------------------------- Inverse-square equations -------------------------------------------- A Brain Dead True Believer Response ------------------------------------------------------------ A Corrupt True Believer 'Response' ------------------------------------------------------- Preamble -------------- Could you trust the Ku Klux Klan to conduct an honest investigation of the NAACP? No matter how sincere the investigators might be, their biases and learned distortions and misrepresentation of the NAACP and blacks in general would make honesty impossible. Just so, less than insightful opinion and later True Believer blindness has resulted in a number of fraudulent claims by Relativity cultists against aspects of Newtonian-Galilean physics. True Believer cultists have proved time and again that their treatment of the 'discredited' Newtonian-Galilean physics is based on misrepresentation and bogus logic. And in all cases in these newsgrouos the True Believers respond with viciousness and irrelevancy. Except when they deign to actually try a relevant respone and prove themselves Brain Dead. Hopefully, this version of this post of the series will be contain at least one example. Whether or not any of modern physical fact fits Newton is not material to the question of these bogus claims of the cult. We are here to do "anything and everything that requires or encourages systematic examination of premises and logic", of Special Relativity. No premises are more basic than those involved in the three frauds named herein, and discussed in this series. Among the frauds are the twin original claims that Special Relativity is necessary: (a) the Newtonian-Galilean coordinate transformations do not work invariantly on Maxwell's electrodynamics equations and (b) the famous Michelson-Morley experiment does not fit the classical Newtonian-Galilean model and only fits Special Relativity. Another, very serious fraud is (c) the implied claim that the Lorentz-Einstein coordinate transformations of Special Relativity actually are applied to Maxwell, completing the fraudulent claims against the Newton-consistent Galilean transformations. There are many more rotten fruit from the SR-tree to be buried before you know the nature of their whole orchard. Look for other posts in this series. By the way, look up the word 'corrupt' in your dictionary if you think it only describes policemen and politicians who take bribes. .................................................. ......................................... .................................................. ......................................... Invariance and the Principle of Relativity --------------------------------------------------------------- To be a universal law it must not require amending from place to place and time to time anywhere in the universe, nor yield different values at different places and times in the same situation. The unfortunate stand-in for that Principle of Relativity in the case of Special Relativity is the question: do my space and time coordinates in a specified equation yield the same answer as the space and time coordinate of whomever else might be witnessing the same event as I? In particular, the coordinates of someone moving at a uniform velocity relative to myself. To relate one set of coordinates to another, we 'transform' one set to the other. Equations are invariant under the Galilean transformation of coordinates if they have in both coordinate systems the same form and the same result. As we shall see, at the minimum, all properly setup equations using space and time coordinates in x,y,z,t not only yield the same value in all of the coordinate systems in question, and are of the same form in all of the coordinate systems, but far exceed that last criterion by reducing exactly and completely to the original system equations. Galilean/Newtonian Invariance of Maxwell ------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, of (a) any equation linear in x,y,z and (b) any inverse-square equation in x. First problem: to avoid the corrupt idiocy of imposing a time transform in a test of a theory that says time is the same throughout the universe regardless of your motion. As Einstein says, in theory you can setup synchronized clocks anywhere/everywhere in the universe, so the idea of imposing some kind of time transform or a lag calculation as if it were a coordinate transform is thus unnecessary nonsense. (a) Linear equations ------------------------------- Let there be f=foo(x,y,z,a,b,c...). We say what must have been amusing the first time someone did it, foo, to stand for a function that need not be defined for the immediate purposes. Sometimes, as in the case of Einstein's 1905 derivation, the idea is to use the unknown and unspecified function as a way station in the process of discovering what the function might be. (He used tau, not foo.) The list of variables or other expressions inside foo's parentheses is a list of values on which the value of foo, the algebra of foo, are calculated. As always, one has setup the function so that the origin is at one end of whatever length or distance is relevant. If x, y, z don't represent lengths/distances on the axes, you are an idiot, which is what True Believer SRians are when they begin to discuss their basics. Because we are in theory going to compare the original equation, with the origin so well placed, with a transformed version of the equation where the origin is not well placed, we use the difference form of the function: f=foo(x1-x0,y1-y0,z1-z0,a,b,c,...,t,v ). Transform each x-value, y-value, z-value to transform the function to the new coordinate system, remembering that the moving system is at velocity u with respect to (wrt) the x-axes, v wrt the y-axes, w wrt the z-axes: f'=foo(x1'-x0',y1'-y0',z1'-z0',a,b,c...,t,v ), =foo(x1-ut-x0+ut,y1-vt-y0+vt,z1-wt-z0+wt,...,t,v ), =foo(x1-x0,y1-y0,z1-z0,a,b,c,...,t,v, ). The ut, vt, wt terms have canceled out. Hence, foo is the same regardless of whether it is based on x-,y-,z-axis coordinates or their transforms, the x'-,y'-,z'-axis coordinates. Hence, too, df'=df. Any linear equation in x,y,z is thus invariant under the Newtonian-Galilean coordinate transformation when applied to equations expressed properly, in differences form. (Not that it is not somewhat idiotic to put equations in any coordinate form when the quantities they represent, lengths, areas, volumes, are readily available and don't lead to deluded analysis based on coordinate transformations.). (b) inverse-square equations -------------------------------------------- f=foo[ (x1-x0)^2, (y1-y0)^2,(z1-z0)^2,a,b,c,...,t,v ]. f'=foo[ (x1'-x0')^2, (y1'-y0')^2,(z1'-z0')^2,a,b,c,...,t,v ], =foo[ (x1-ut-x0+ut)^2,(y1-vt-y0+vt)^2,(z1-wt-z0+wt)^2,a,b,c,...,t,v] =foo[ (x1-x0)^2, (y1-y0)^2, (z1-z0)^2,a,b,c,...,t,v ] Foo is the same regardless of reference to the x-,y-,z-axes or the x'-,y'-,z'-axes. Hence df'=df. Maxwell's equations are inverse-square equations in the distances the coordinates (so poorly) represent. Any inverse-square equation in x,y,z is thus invariant under the Newtonian-Galilean coordinate transformation when applied to equations expressed properly, in differences form. (Not that it is not somewhat idiotic to put equations in any coordinate form when the quantities they represent, lengths, areas, volumes, are readily available and don't lead to deluded analysis based on coordinate transformations.) .. A Brain Dead True Believer Response ------------------------------------------------------------ I said this in a post: Give one example to show how I am wrong when I say that every function in x,y,z is invariant when put in difference form, such as with (x1-x0), under the galilean transformations. x'=x-ut, y'=y-vt, z'=z-wt. This is the response I get from Paul B. Andersen, a physicist in Norway. Understand, too, that not even one SR-cultist noticed that Paul had apparently gone Brain Dead while responding: (x-1)^2 + (y-1)^2 + (z-1)^2 = 1 Transformed: (x' -(1-ut))^2 + (y'-(1-vt))^2 + (z'-(1-wt))^2 = 1 Clearly not invariant. QED Do you see any coordinate difference forms in that? Well, yes, although not of the kind I specified, given that he insists that the ones in (x-1), etc, are coordinates. (Otherwise, why transform them with -vt, etc?) Yes, no difference form of the kind I specified so his response is somewhat Brain Dead in that regard, but the Brain Death symptom par excellence is the fact that the equation he provides is invariant under the Galilelan transformations as he gives it: (x' -(1-ut))^2 + (y'-(1-vt))^2 + (z'-(1-wt))^2 = 1 Expand the primed values and simplify and we get: (x-ut - (1-ut))^2 + (y-vt - (1-vt))^2 + (z-wt - (1-wt))^2 = 1. (x-ut-1+ut)^2 + (y-vt-1+vt)^2 + (z-wt-1+wt)^2 = 1 (x-1)^2 + (y-1)^2 + (z-1)^2 = 1. Gee, the transformed equation reduces to the original equation! It is not just invariant - which means same form, same value - it is exactly the same. It is not just a real transformation, it is an identity transformation in effect. Paul - being such a fine exemplar of the True Believer SR-cult cretin - now has a revealing rejoinder to the demonstration that his non-invariant equation is invariant: ---------------------------------------- See what I can do: (x-1)^2 (x + 5 - z - 5 + z + e^37 - dirt + eleaticus - e^37 + dirt - eleaticus - 1)^2 (x -1)^2 (x-1)^2 is indeed invariant irrespective of what you add and subtract from x !!!! Amazing! ------------------------------------- Actually, he makes as much sense as any other True Believer SRian: No one but a moron cretin would fail to give his non-invariant equation a sample value test. Let x=y=.2929 (approx), z=1, u=5, v=w=0, t=10. (x-1)^2 + (y-1)^2 + (z-1)^2 = 1 (.2929-1)^2 + (.2929-1)^2 + (1-1)^2 = 1 (-.7071)^2 + (-.7071)^2 +0^2 = 1 ..5 + .5 + 0 = 1 (x' -(1-ut))^2 + (y'-(1-vt))^2 + (z'-(1-wt))^2 = 1 x'=.2929-5(10)=-49.7071 y'=.2929 -0(10)=.2929 z'=1 ut=5(10) (-49.7071-1+50)^2 + (.2929-1-0(10))^2 + (1-1-0(10))^2 = 1 (-.7071)^2 + (-.7071)^2 + (0)^2 = 1 ..5 + .5 + 0 = 1 So, Paul's non-invariant equation is a scalar function under what he presents (correctly but accidently) as a properly transformed equation, but which he claims is not invariant. scalar=invariant. A Corrupt True Believer 'Response' ------------------------------------------------------- In response to rantings about the original version of this piece (essentially the same but without material I've added) I wrote further: Here's a start: (x1-x0). Just surround it with whatever and prefix with *= where * is whatever function name, then show how it isn't invariant with respect to the galilean transformation. True Believer "Eric Gisse" came up with this: --------------------------------------- A^u = e^u\exp(-i p_u x^u) Where A^u is the electromagnetic four potential satisfying maxwell's equations, box A^u = 0. (e^u is the four-polarization, p_u x^u is the phase, from which one may also derive the doppler shift by taking it to be invariant). It's not invariant with respect to galilean transforms (unless the speed of light is infinite) because (1) p_u x^u is invariant and (2) p_u A^u = 0 independent of your choice of coordinates unless charge isn't conserved, in which case maxwell's equations are incorrect. ------------------------------------------ You will note several things about his response, I am sure. One, there are no coordinate difference forms involved, although I said "Here's a start: (x1-x0)." Two, the subexpression p_u A^u = 0 cannot be a source of non-invariance by his own assertion. Three, if p_u x^u is invariant then the whole function is invariant under the galillean transformations because when put in the specified form, the distance x-vector (x,y,z,t) is invariant under the Galilean transformations, as shown in the material to which he supposedly is responding: (x1-x0,y1-y0,z1-z0,t) when transformed becomes: (x1-ut-x0+ut,y1-vt-y0+vt,z1-wt-z0+wt,t) = (x1-x0,y1-y0,z1-z0,t). Invariance. Gisse's Brain Dead example is also an example of a typical SR-cult corrupt practice, similar in concept to crooked bookkeeping: when you make a phoney (by amount) entry you must make another in order that the balance add up. That is, when SR screws up x = (x,y,z.t) to become x'=(x',y',z',t') it has to compensate by screwing up the p_u values. True Believer SR-cult responses ----------------------------------------------------------------- Focus well on negative 'responses'. Are they vicious ranting? If not, are the replies actually responsive? "How dare you say my soups suck!" exclaimed the angry chef, "my peach pies are perfect" Do they rant about gravity, or how Relativity is proved correct a million times each day, or some other 'we are proved right' rave that doesn't deal in details about the debunking done here? It is typically General Relativity or items about the energy and mass of moving objects that are being waved at you, and such items are completely irrelevant to coordinate transformations and invariance.. Just ask them for a list of all the observations that have been made of the shortening (contraction) of moving objects that Special Relativity says always occurs. Rarely, there is actually a response that has some relevance to the material posted, and those are proofs of their Brain Death. eleaticus |
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Galilean/Newtonian Invariance -------------------------------------------------- Linear equations ------------------------------- Inverse-square equations -------------------------------------------- A Brain Dead True Believer Response ------------------------------------------------------------ A Corrupt True Believer 'Response' ------------------------------------------------------- [snip 340 lines of trolled garbage] eleaticus, Oren Webster, is a despised and stooopid troll, http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...es/Crimes.html "Several crimes against logic and science" Ha ha ha! Originally trolled across sci.physics sci.physics.relativity alt.physics sci.math sci.answers alt.answers news.answers Psychotic ineducable boring troll Eleaticus, Internal inconsistencies in SR (meaning inconsistencies of a purely mathematical logical nature) automatically lead to contradictions in number theory, itself, and arithmetic, since the mathematics of Minkowski geometry is equiconsistent with the theory of real numbers and with arithmetic. Eleaticus explicitly demonstrates that he is completely ignorant of multivariable calculus. He has no concept of the Chain Rule in multivariable calculus. Consider his Galilean Transformation goo and dribble: t' = t, x' = x - vt, y' = y, z' = z. His refusal to accept that t' must be introduced as a separate variable springs from a massive emprical stupidity re space and time are described as a four-dimensional manifold, with four coordinates instead of a time evolution of a three-dimensional manifold, and that the change of coordinate system should be a change of four coordinates, and not a time-dependent change of three coordinates. This is particularly vital when it comes to fields over space and time (electric and magnetic fields for example). The transformation law for the differential operators under the Galilean transformation is given by: d/dt' = d/dt + v d/dx, d/dx' = d/dx, d/dy' = d/dy, d/dz' = d/dz. This shows the necessity of introducing a new variable t', since partial differentiation with respect to t' (constant x', y', z') is a different operation to partial differentiation with respect to t (constant x, y, z). The above transformation law is determined by the Chain Rule: d/dt' = dt/dt' d/dt + dx/dt' d/dx + dy/dt' d/dy + dz/dt' d/dz, d/dx' = dt/dx' d/dt + dx/dx' d/dx + dy/dx' d/dy + dz/dx' d/dz, d/dy' = dt/dy' d/dt + dx/dy' d/dx + dy/dy' d/dy + dz/dy' d/dz, d/dz' = dt/dz' d/dt + dx/dz' d/dx + dy/dz' d/dy + dz/dz' d/dz. The presence of the term involving d/dx in the expression for d/dt' is indicative of the fact that x depends on t' (x', y', z', being held constant), as can be seen from the fact that the coefficient of d/dx in the expression for d/dt' is dx/dt'. Because of the now demonstrated fact that Eleaticus has no formal education in multivariable calculus, he has managed, somehow, to get it into his head that the presence of the term involving d/dx in the expression for d/dt' is indicative of t' depending on x (t, y, z, being held constant). Because of his stupidty Eleaticus cannot get the correct transformation law for the differential operators under the Galilean Transformation, and he cannot determine the invariance or otherwise of Maxwell's Equations under the Galilean Transformation. The first advice to Eleaticus is to learn multivariable calculus. Eleaticus should not pretend that he can understand how to determine invariance or otherwise of Maxwell's Equations under the Galilean Transformation, or under the Lorentz Transformation, until he understands the multivariable calculus which underlies such considerations. Eleaticus is a loud idiot. The homogeneous Maxwell equations are invariant under the Galilean Transformation, with transformation laws: E_x' = E_x, E_y' = E_y - v B_z, E_z' = E_z + v B_y, B_x' = B_x, B_y' = B_y, B_z' = B_z. The derivation of these transformation laws was determined using the transformation laws for the differential operators given above. These transformation laws have the additional advantage that they determine the correct transformation for the force law, thus providing further evidence in favour of the transformation law for the differential operators, as above. The inhomogeneous Maxwell equations are also invariant under the Galilean transformation, with transformation laws: E_x' = E_x, E_y' = E_y, E_z' = E_z, B_x' = B_x, B_y' = B_y + v/c^2 E_z, B_z' = B_z - v/c^2 E_y, \rho' = \rho, J_x' = J_x - v \rho, J_y' = J_y, J_z' = J_z. Note the the transformation laws for the charge density and current density are as they should be under the Galilean transformation. Homogeneous equations are invariant under the Galilean Transformation, and inhomogeneous equations are invariant under the Galilean Transformation, but Maxwell's Equations as a whole are NOT invariant under the Galilean Transformation, since the transformation laws required for the EM field for the two cases are inconsistent with each other. The transformation law for the EM field which makes the homogeneous equations invariant will not also make the inhomogeneous equations invariant. The transformation law for the EM field which makes the inhomogeneous equations invariant will not also make the homogeneous equations invariant. On the other hand, all of Maxwell's equations are invariant under the Lorentz Transformation, with transformation laws: E_x' = E_x, E_y' = \gamma (E_y - v B_z), E_z' = \gamma (E_z + v B_y), B_x' = B_x, B_y' = \gamma (B_y + v/c^2 E_z), B_z' = \gamma (B_z - v/c^2 E_y), \rho' = \gamma (\rho - v/c^2 J_x), J_x' = \gamma (J_x - v \rho), J_y' = J_y, J_z' = J_z, where \gamma = 1/sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2). Idiot Oren Webster sees himself this way, http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete6.jpg The entire remainder of the planet sees him this way, http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete3.png http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.swf http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg http://www.you-moron.com/ http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/quack.html http://www.firehead.org/~jessh/film/kubrick/Kubrick-Psycho.html http://www.naturalchild.com/elliott_barker/prisons.html Hey, stooopid troll Eleaticus - Do you want EVIDENCE? Each of the 24 GPS satellites carries either four cesium atomic clocks or three rubidum atomic clocks in orbit, with full relativistic corrections being applied. http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/tests.html Mathematics of gravitation http://wugrav.wustl.edu/people/CMW/update98.pdf http://www.astro.northwestern.edu/AspenW04/Papers/lorimer1.pdf Equivalence Principle testing http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0111236 Geometric structure of reality http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0307140 GR structure, especially Part 4/p. 7 http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2001-4/index.html http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0311039 http://www.weburbia.demon.co.uk/physics/experiments.html Experimental constraints on General Relativity. http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf Nature 425 374 (2003) http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume6/2003-1ashby/index.html http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjjacob/Lecture16.pdf Relativity in the GPS system http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9909014 Phys. 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Lett. 92 (2004) 121101 falling light http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/airtim.html Hafele-Keating Experiment http://www.hawaii.edu/suremath/SRtwinParadox.html http://physics.syr.edu/courses/modules/LIGHTCONE/twins.html Twin Paradox Science 303(5661) 1143;1153 (2004) http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0401086 http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0312071 Deeply relativistic neutron star binaries http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0405160 Black hole evaporation http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/pdf/prl83-3585.pdf http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0301024 Nordtvedt Effect NIM A 355 537 (1995) Physics Letters B 328 103 (1994) Physical Review Letters 64 1697 (1990) Physical Review Letters 39 1051 (1977) Physical Review 135 B1071 (1964) Physics Letters 12 260 (1964) Europhysics Letters 56(2) 170-174 (2001) General Relativity and Gravitation 34(9) 1371 (2002) http://fourmilab.to/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/sr/ae_1905_error.htm http://www.physics.gatech.edu/people/faculty/finkelstein/relativity.pdf http://users.powernet.co.uk/bearsoft/Paper6.pdf http://users.powernet.co.uk/bearsoft/LPHrel.html Longitudinal and transverse mass http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/gpsuser/gpsuser.pdf http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/sigspec/default.htm http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/icd200/default.htm http://www.trimble.com/gps/index.html http://sirius.chinalake.navy.mil/satpred/ http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog9/node9.html http://egtphysics.net/GPS/RelGPS.htm http://www.schriever.af.mil/gps/Current/current.oa1 http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html http://www-astronomy.mps.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! 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