Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

This bogus simplestic definition led physicists to a cnetury of wild
goose chase.

A new definition for time is formulated as follows:
1. There is only universal time exists.
2. An interval of a clock second in the rest frame of the clock
(observer) will represent a specfic interval of universal time.
3. The observer can convert his interval of universal time (his clock
second)into another frame using the the LT or IRT.
4. This means the a clcok second in different frames will have
different universal time content.

With this new definition for time the speed of light in any frame can
be defined as follows:
Light path length of rod (299,792,458m)/the universal time content for
a clock second co-moving with the rod.

Explained in detail:
By definition the speed of light in the ether frame is:
299,792,458m/1 ether frame clock second.

The speed of light in any moving frame in the ether is determined as
follows:
The light path length of rod=gamma*299,792,458m
The universal time content for a moving clock second in the ether
=gamma*1 ether frame clcok second.

Therefore the speed of light in the moving frame is:
gamma*299,792,458m/gamma*1 ether frame clock second.

This is reduced to the constant math ratio of:
299,792,458m/1 ether frame clock second.

This new defintion for light speed makes SR into an ether theory.:-)

Ken seto

"Ken Seto" wrote in message om...
Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

This bogus simplestic definition led physicists to a cnetury of wild
goose chase.

simplestic?
cnetury?
Dylsectics of the wordl, untie?


A new definition for time is formulated as follows:
1. There is only universal time exists.

The only thing you are is an idiot is the only thing you are.
Were you actually *born* this way?
Are your parents aware of your condition?

Dirk Vdm

"Ken Seto" wrote in message
om...
Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

A new definition for time is formulated as follows:

The only new definition of time for the last 100 years is the
Shubertian clock.

http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Eugene Shubert

"Eugene Shubert" http://www.everythingimportant.org wrote in message ...
"Ken Seto" wrote in message
om...
Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

A new definition for time is formulated as follows:

The only new definition of time for the last 100 years is the
Shubertian clock.

http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Eugene Shubert

So your clock will only last 100 years.

So happens, I throw in some batteries and jumper
cables, and my clock lasts two hundred years,
BRONX CHEER!

"Eugene Shubert" http://www.everythingimportant.org wrote in message ...
"Ken Seto" wrote in message
om...
Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

A new definition for time is formulated as follows:

The only new definition of time for the last 100 years is the
Shubertian clock.

http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Idiot.

Ken Seto

Ken Seto wrote:

Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

This bogus simplestic definition led physicists to a cnetury of wild
goose chase.

A new definition for time is formulated as follows:
1. There is only universal time exists.

Besides death and taxes, there is another constant.
Seto revealing his ignorance.

John Anderson

wrote in message ...
Ken Seto wrote:

Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

This bogus simplestic definition led physicists to a cnetury of wild
goose chase.

A new definition for time is formulated as follows:
1. There is only universal time exists.

Besides death and taxes, there is another constant.
Seto revealing his ignorance.

Ah the runt of the learned SRians Anderson comes out swinging.
Definition for a runt of the learned SRians:
1. An idiot who thins that SR is a religion.
2. a mental midget who can't comprehend anything beyond what he was
taught in school.
3. A moron who will attack anybody who disagrees with SR.

Ken Seto

(Ken Seto) wrote in message . com...
Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

This bogus simplestic definition led physicists to a cnetury of wild
goose chase.

A new definition for time is formulated as follows:
1. There is only universal time exists.
2. An interval of a clock second in the rest frame of the clock
(observer) will represent a specfic interval of universal time.
3. The observer can convert his interval of universal time (his clock
second)into another frame using the the LT or IRT.
4. This means the a clcok second in different frames will have
different universal time content.

With this new definition for time the speed of light in any frame can
be defined as follows:
Light path length of rod (299,792,458m)/the universal time content for
a clock second co-moving with the rod.

Explained in detail:
By definition the speed of light in the ether frame is:
299,792,458m/1 ether frame clock second.

The speed of light in any moving frame in the ether is determined as
follows:
The light path length of rod=gamma*299,792,458m
The universal time content for a moving clock second in the ether
=gamma*1 ether frame clcok second.

Therefore the speed of light in the moving frame is:
gamma*299,792,458m/gamma*1 ether frame clock second.

This is reduced to the constant math ratio of:
299,792,458m/1 ether frame clock second.

This new defintion for light speed makes SR into an ether theory.:-)


The kenseto once again demonstrates that he can't understand what a definition is.

"The Ghost In The Machine" wrote in
message ...
In sci.physics.relativity, TomGee

wrote
on 6 Nov 2004 21:08:31 -0800
:
(Ken Seto) wrote in message
. com...
Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

This bogus simplestic definition led physicists to a cnetury of wild
goose chase.

A new definition for time is formulated as follows:
1. There is only universal time exists.
2. An interval of a clock second in the rest frame of the clock
(observer) will represent a specfic interval of universal time.
3. The observer can convert his interval of universal time (his clock
second)into another frame using the the LT or IRT.
4. This means the a clcok second in different frames will have
different universal time content.


A word of caution to posters in science ngs. Ken Seto is looking for
ideas to incorporate into his own ideas. While that may be alright in
the spirit of research, he is apparently not willing to give credit
where credit is due, so I would caution you to guard your intellectual
property carefully. We do not need people like that in science, not
even in these discussions in ngs.

He posted at _sci.physics_ with the same title as this post (but
without the quotation marks around "TIME"). If you wish to learn more
about what I say, please read the other thread to find out.
TomGee 110604

AFAICT, KenSeto's ideas are perfectly consistent; the main problem
is their practicality. For instance, the "standard meter"
would have to be adjustable and compute the meter
by first measuring the velocity relative to the U-clock.

No you misunderstood my ideas completely. The physical length of a mter
stick does not change at all. The light path length of a meter istick is
dependent on the state of absolute motion of the stick.

(Since velocity = distance over time, there are some interesting
secondary problems here. One way out is to measure the frequency
of the tickpips, or the U-clock carrier beam frequency, perhaps.)

I have no idea what you are talking about. I suggest that you visit the
thread "A Brief Description of IRT (Improved Relativity Theory"

The "standard second" is simpler, merely requiring a radio receiver
to pick up the tickpips from the U-clock. Various computations
would require adjustment -- e.g., g-force would change during the
year because of the Earth's motion, relative to the U-clock,
assuming the U-clock isn't simply put in Greenwich (in which case
stellar and planetary motions would have to adjust *their* velocities
relative thereto).

There is no need for any adjustment. The purpose of SR/GR or IRT is to
convert the observer's interval of universal time (his clock second) into
the clock reading for that interval of universal time in the observed frame.

Ken Seto

In sci.physics.relativity, kenseto

wrote
on Mon, 08 Nov 2004 19:23:21 GMT
:

"The Ghost In The Machine" wrote in
message ...
In sci.physics.relativity, TomGee

wrote
on 6 Nov 2004 21:08:31 -0800
:
(Ken Seto) wrote in message
. com...
Einstein defined time as follows:
"Time is what the clock says"

This bogus simplestic definition led physicists to a cnetury of wild
goose chase.

A new definition for time is formulated as follows:
1. There is only universal time exists.
2. An interval of a clock second in the rest frame of the clock
(observer) will represent a specfic interval of universal time.
3. The observer can convert his interval of universal time (his clock
second)into another frame using the the LT or IRT.
4. This means the a clcok second in different frames will have
different universal time content.


A word of caution to posters in science ngs. Ken Seto is looking for
ideas to incorporate into his own ideas. While that may be alright in
the spirit of research, he is apparently not willing to give credit
where credit is due, so I would caution you to guard your intellectual
property carefully. We do not need people like that in science, not
even in these discussions in ngs.

He posted at _sci.physics_ with the same title as this post (but
without the quotation marks around "TIME"). If you wish to learn more
about what I say, please read the other thread to find out.
TomGee 110604

AFAICT, KenSeto's ideas are perfectly consistent; the main problem
is their practicality. For instance, the "standard meter"
would have to be adjustable and compute the meter
by first measuring the velocity relative to the U-clock.

No you misunderstood my ideas completely. The physical length
of a mter stick does not change at all.

Doesn't it? The SR Lorentz transform requires it to change, relative
to a moving observer.

x' = (x-vt) / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
t' = (t-vx/c^2) / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

This in contrast to the Galilean variant:

x' = x - vt
t' = t

The light path length of a meter istick is
dependent on the state of absolute motion of the stick.

So now we have two concepts: "standard length" and "light path length".
The latter is easy to measure -- two mirrors along the length to
the observer and a few other things, and one can compute it.
How does one compute the former?


(Since velocity = distance over time, there are some interesting
secondary problems here. One way out is to measure the frequency
of the tickpips, or the U-clock carrier beam frequency, perhaps.)

I have no idea what you are talking about. I suggest that you visit the
thread "A Brief Description of IRT (Improved Relativity Theory"

And how else does one read the tickpips on a U-clock? The
U-clock is broadcasting the ticks.

One can, for instance, consider a 100 MHz carrier wave as a large
number of little ticks. If someone recedes from it at 0.6 c, the
locally-determined frequency would be observed to be 80 Mhz.


The "standard second" is simpler, merely requiring a radio receiver
to pick up the tickpips from the U-clock. Various computations
would require adjustment -- e.g., g-force would change during the
year because of the Earth's motion, relative to the U-clock,
assuming the U-clock isn't simply put in Greenwich (in which case
stellar and planetary motions would have to adjust *their* velocities
relative thereto).

There is no need for any adjustment. The purpose of SR/GR
or IRT is to convert the observer's interval of universal
time (his clock second) into the clock reading for that
interval of universal time in the observed frame.

Therefore, the computed speed of light in this system is

c / sqrt(1 - v_U^2/c^2)

where v_U is the speed relative to the U-clock. (Constant meter
length, different time interval length.)

Spot The Flaw.


Ken Seto




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