Jus read along some of the other topics and wanted to add something.

It's true. Einstein didn't say lots of new things. What he did was
making us aware that everything was relative. All we can say about
what we see we see from where we are at and we can only calculate from
what we got. We never know exactly what is going on.

About c. We know it's not the fastest constant, rather the speed of
electrodynamic waves going through space. There have been particles
faster
than c and whatever. (QED)
We know that all we can say about nature is how mass behaves and thus
if we talk about light it is of course what we see as matter is doing
something.
This is result from the fact that everything related to the 3 spheres
of visible dimensions, it is matter. That's why universe is not
limitied. Because in our dimension there is matter only. The
dimensions where there is no matter are not visible to us.
We can imagine them like time for example.
Einstein tried its best to point out relativity of time.
Made amistake though.
The problem he gave us with the train and the flashlight coming down.
This analogy is useless. We are talking about an event beyond time.
There is no time. Its an event of the moment. Thus the person in the
train sees the same as the person sees outside the train and there is
no reason
why the mass should be bend.
Anyway, Einstein was right saying that for the outside person the
trains appears smaller than the for the one in the inside. it's
relativity.
the theory about translating inertial systems so we can try to
describe things in a way that we would from any space else in the
universe.
It's a good theory. Still, Einstein said it's not possible to
determine the true nature of what we are looking at.


Back to the energy thing.
We never see energy, we can't measure energy, there is nothing about
energy. Except when it interacts with matter. Thus photons have mass.
Indeed. But it's very light and actually, it's light enough for the
electrodynamic waves to drag it on rather than gravity. Still gravity
can have some influence on the way it moves. Thats because it has
mass.

So picture all force in the first place as some waves going thru its
own dimension.
Gravity definitely doesn't behave like a wave. That's why all these
dumb physicists cant explain it.
But lets look at light first.
We got the electrodynamic force. its a wave, nuthing else, travelling
the universe at the velocity of c.
Of course the energy in this system is eternal because it never gets
used.
it's like it is jus there.
Now what we got?
Theres protons and they ridin on these tiny force waves.
and they can, for an unknown reason, jump from wave to wave if
something peculiar happens to them. Thats why light never goes the
same way and why we got all these theories about probability.
Because it never goes a straight line.

Now what? What about gravity. I was calling physicists dumb. Actually,
I did because they waste time looking at the wrong poblems.
I didnt say I doubt their intelligence.
Actually, I don't know how gravitational force travels around.
it certainly seems to lie around everywhere,
and it seems to get active only around large amounts of mass.
I could imagine string theory fittin in here.
Lots of strings not movin at all untill these huge masses show up.
and suddenly theres gravitational pulls.
I might use the analogy of masses lying on a plane of time..this time
its the plane of good old gravtiational force.

Now what about time?
Time's different.
I doubt that Einstein ever really checked the differences in time and
if time ticks different. Anyway, we know for some probability that
particles survive longer if they are accellerated to unlimited
velocities.
So there has to be some sort of thing about "time" passing differnt.
...mmh.Imsorry. I dont remember what Einstein had to say about it.
Ill have to check back later.

I hope this could answer some rubbish questions.

And to all those that don't believe in this here because their profs
and masters never gave them a chance to develop their own thoughts and
made them swallow what good old mathematics made look like true, just
let me tell you, that the time when you all will understand what truth
and reality is all about will appear some day and you will see that Im
right. Why? because I am always right.
thx.


And as I thought I posted earlier, but I didn't. Dont know why.
Anyway.

Since Im still open for criticism Im happy with every link to any
scientific experiment not fitting in. Ill take my time thinking about
it and explainin it then.

Sincerely,

Buckz

Look out Seto. There's a new retard on the block.

-E

"EjP" wrote in message ...

Look out Seto. There's a new retard on the block.

There will be a flood of them.
2005 is approaching rapidly.

Dirk Vdm

"Ben Buckz" wrote in message
om...
Jus read along some of the other topics and wanted to add something.

It's true. Einstein didn't say lots of new things. What he did was
making us aware that everything was relative.

That i a misconception perpetrated by the popular press. What he really did
was extend the Principle of Relativity (POR) , a symmetry principle long
known to hold for mechanics, to all the laws of physics. Thus the modern
view of relativity is that itis a theory of space-time based on symmetry.
See http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0110076

All we can say about
what we see we see from where we are at and we can only calculate from
what we got. We never know exactly what is going on.

Not really. The basic upshot is that the laws of physics should be put in a
particular form (called lorentz invariance) that is the same in all inertial
reference frames.


About c. We know it's not the fastest constant, rather the speed of
electrodynamic waves going through space. There have been particles
faster
than c and whatever. (QED)

Hmmmm. I do not know quite what you are saying here. You may be referring
you the non locality issues on QM of to Feynmans remarks we cons virtual
particle some traveling c some c. Form that point of view it is not the
greatest speed it however is thru greatest speed that can be used to carry
information.

We know that all we can say about nature is how mass behaves and thus
if we talk about light it is of course what we see as matter is doing
something.
This is result from the fact that everything related to the 3 spheres
of visible dimensions, it is matter. That's why universe is not
limitied. Because in our dimension there is matter only. The
dimensions where there is no matter are not visible to us.
We can imagine them like time for example.
Einstein tried its best to point out relativity of time.
Made amistake though.
The problem he gave us with the train and the flashlight coming down.
This analogy is useless. We are talking about an event beyond time.
There is no time. Its an event of the moment. Thus the person in the
train sees the same as the person sees outside the train and there is
no reason
why the mass should be bend.
Anyway, Einstein was right saying that for the outside person the
trains appears smaller than the for the one in the inside. it's
relativity.
the theory about translating inertial systems so we can try to
describe things in a way that we would from any space else in the
universe.
It's a good theory. Still, Einstein said it's not possible to
determine the true nature of what we are looking at.

You are under a lot of misconceptions. I suggest you have a look at
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/



Back to the energy thing.
We never see energy, we can't measure energy, there is nothing about
energy. Except when it interacts with matter. Thus photons have mass.
Indeed. But it's very light and actually, it's light enough for the
electrodynamic waves to drag it on rather than gravity. Still gravity
can have some influence on the way it moves. Thats because it has
mass.

Again you are under a lot of misconceptions. I suggest you first try to
understand what energy is see
http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~gleeson/ht...on1_3_6_9.html. Again, as with
SR and the POR we see the real issue is symmetry.


So picture all force in the first place as some waves going thru its
own dimension.
Gravity definitely doesn't behave like a wave. That's why all these
dumb physicists cant explain it.

Remarks like that are silly and naive to an extreme and show no
understanding of the scientific enterprise or the intellectual quality of
the people involved. They label the poster a member of the crank and
crackpot fraternity. I hope you are not a lost cause and actually read and
try to understand the links I gave.

Bill


But lets look at light first.
We got the electrodynamic force. its a wave, nuthing else, travelling
the universe at the velocity of c.
Of course the energy in this system is eternal because it never gets
used.
it's like it is jus there.
Now what we got?
Theres protons and they ridin on these tiny force waves.
and they can, for an unknown reason, jump from wave to wave if
something peculiar happens to them. Thats why light never goes the
same way and why we got all these theories about probability.
Because it never goes a straight line.

Now what? What about gravity. I was calling physicists dumb. Actually,
I did because they waste time looking at the wrong poblems.
I didnt say I doubt their intelligence.
Actually, I don't know how gravitational force travels around.
it certainly seems to lie around everywhere,
and it seems to get active only around large amounts of mass.
I could imagine string theory fittin in here.
Lots of strings not movin at all untill these huge masses show up.
and suddenly theres gravitational pulls.
I might use the analogy of masses lying on a plane of time..this time
its the plane of good old gravtiational force.

Now what about time?
Time's different.
I doubt that Einstein ever really checked the differences in time and
if time ticks different. Anyway, we know for some probability that
particles survive longer if they are accellerated to unlimited
velocities.
So there has to be some sort of thing about "time" passing differnt.
..mmh.Imsorry. I dont remember what Einstein had to say about it.
Ill have to check back later.

I hope this could answer some rubbish questions.

And to all those that don't believe in this here because their profs
and masters never gave them a chance to develop their own thoughts and
made them swallow what good old mathematics made look like true, just
let me tell you, that the time when you all will understand what truth
and reality is all about will appear some day and you will see that Im
right. Why? because I am always right.
thx.


And as I thought I posted earlier, but I didn't. Dont know why.
Anyway.

Since Im still open for criticism Im happy with every link to any
scientific experiment not fitting in. Ill take my time thinking about
it and explainin it then.

Sincerely,

Buckz

LexusTech wrote:
Ive never really understood Relativity. I took University Level Physics
and passed, but I still can not grasp the concept. Does anyone know a
web site that explains it in a simple way? Or can anyone from this NG
explain it to me. I would sleep much better!


In a nutshell:

Our universe respects no preferred frame of reference, so there is no such
thing as a body's unequivocal motion through space, proper. Indeed any
thing, any place, is a proprietary platform per se, a basal world of supreme
stature, owing deference to no greater realm. And the laws of physics bestow
unerring homage to each and every such arbitrarily-defined vantage as if it,
and seemingly it alone, constitutes some hallowed special ground.

[excerpted from www.explainrelativity.com ]