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| Abstract:
| The classical phenomenon of the redshift of light in a static
| gravitational potential, usually called the gravitational redshift, is
| described in the literature essentially in two ways: On the one hand,
| the phenomenon is explained through the behavior of clocks which run
| faster the higher they are located in the potential, whereas the
| energy and frequency of the propagating photon do not change with
| height. The light thus appears to be redshifted relative to the
| frequency of the clock. On the other hand, the phenomenon is
| alternatively discussed (even in some authoritative texts) in terms of
| an energy loss of a photon as it overcomes the gravitational
| attraction of the massive body. This second approach operates with
| notions such as the "gravitational mass" or the "potential energy" of
| a photon and we assert that it is misleading. We do not claim to
| present any original ideas or to give a comprehensive review of the
| subject, our goal being essentially a pedagogical one. ©2000 American
| Association of Physics Teachers.
|
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/serv... 093837402530
| ------------------------------------------------
| The HMC Project
| The Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
| http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/hmc/
|
| http://www.phys.virginia.edu/classes...elativity.html
| ------------------------------------------------
| Sue...
"Einstein asks: should we just smile at this misguided soul? His answer is
no - the observer in the chest's point of view is just as valid as an
outsider's. In other words, being inside the (from an outside perspective)
uniformly accelerating room is physically equivalent to being in a uniform
gravitational field. "

I wondered what the thick cable was outside my apartment. At first I thought
it was a telephone pole, but now I know it is there to pull the ground up
with a uniform acceleration. Or should I just smile at the misaligned neuron
called Einstein?
Androcles

So you think the earth weighs enough to justify a big cable, do ya?
Well I read where Lord Cavendish weighed it with a tiny fiber so you
better get your facts straight before ya have to use one of the EEP
"experiments" to prove which twin is is in a jump frame and has his
clock accelertated by the equivalent blueshift. I suggested elsewhere
that that this subject deserved its own thread but the flood of
protests have shown me the error of my ways. It really is proveable
with special relativty... or is it the other way around. Well
according to the Lorentz transform it shouldn't matter because logic
is symetrical.
;-) Sue...

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| "suzysewnshow" wrote in message
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| | Abstract:
| | The classical phenomenon of the redshift of light in a static
| | gravitational potential, usually called the gravitational redshift, is
| | described in the literature essentially in two ways: On the one hand,
| | the phenomenon is explained through the behavior of clocks which run
| | faster the higher they are located in the potential, whereas the
| | energy and frequency of the propagating photon do not change with
| | height. The light thus appears to be redshifted relative to the
| | frequency of the clock. On the other hand, the phenomenon is
| | alternatively discussed (even in some authoritative texts) in terms of
| | an energy loss of a photon as it overcomes the gravitational
| | attraction of the massive body. This second approach operates with
| | notions such as the "gravitational mass" or the "potential energy" of
| | a photon and we assert that it is misleading. We do not claim to
| | present any original ideas or to give a comprehensive review of the
| | subject, our goal being essentially a pedagogical one. ©2000 American
| | Association of Physics Teachers.
| |
|
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/serv... 093837402530
| | ------------------------------------------------
| | The HMC Project
| | The Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
| | http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/hmc/
| |
| | http://www.phys.virginia.edu/classes...elativity.html
| | ------------------------------------------------
| | Sue...
| "Einstein asks: should we just smile at this misguided soul? His answer
is
| no - the observer in the chest's point of view is just as valid as an
| outsider's. In other words, being inside the (from an outside
perspective)
| uniformly accelerating room is physically equivalent to being in a
uniform
| gravitational field. "
|
| I wondered what the thick cable was outside my apartment. At first I
thought
| it was a telephone pole, but now I know it is there to pull the ground
up
| with a uniform acceleration. Or should I just smile at the misaligned
neuron
| called Einstein?
| Androcles
|
| So you think the earth weighs enough to justify a big cable, do ya?
| Well I read where Lord Cavendish weighed it with a tiny fiber so you
| better get your facts straight before ya have to use one of the EEP
| "experiments" to prove which twin is is in a jump frame and has his
| clock accelertated by the equivalent blueshift. I suggested elsewhere
| that that this subject deserved its own thread but the flood of
| protests have shown me the error of my ways. It really is proveable
| with special relativty... or is it the other way around. Well
| according to the Lorentz transform it shouldn't matter because logic
| is symetrical.
| ;-) Sue...


Well, actually... hmm... well... err... err... yes?
A skinny one might break and we'd all be weightless. Then what would
all those people do for a living offering me methods for losing weight?
Cavern-dish sounds like an awful lot of food to me... perhaps he needed
to put on a few pounds. Poor guy :-(
Androcles