Perfect[absolute] symmetry cannot physically exist

Perfect Symmetry --- Symmetry Breaking

[1.] Nothingness is a difficult concept, or rather a
difficult "non-concept" since it is nothing.

[2.] To say that nothingness exists is to create a
contradiction, since nothingness is non-existence.
Nothingness "non-exists".

[3.] Nothingness is non-existence; therefore nothingness is
non-relational. Nothingness has no distinctiveness in and
of itself, hence nothingness cannot be recognizable.

[4.] Being-ness means basically "to be", and to exist.
Being-ness exists.

[5.] Take any two distinct quantities-attributes of
existence:

A------P------B

A and B perceive each other to be different with perception
P. That is to say A ,is perceived to be different from B
and B is perceived to be different from A.

A and B are different elements of a larger picture, but
they also[must] share certain common attributes of the
larger reality including them. From that perspective A and
B are the same, because aspects of A transform into B and
aspects of B transform into A. At a higher level of
generality and symmetry, A cannot be distinguished from B,
and B cannot be distinguished from A. For example, dogs and
cats are distinctively different, yet dogs and cats are the
same from the perspective that both are "mammals".

[6.] Following this premise, it stands to reason that all
attributes & aspects of reality can be transformed into
each other, and hence they have no distinctions from each
other[at continually higher and higher levels of symmetry].


[7.] Therefore, it follows, that at a top[perfect?] level
of symmetry, everything is nothing...



Do "gravitons" have gravity?


[Einstein Tensor] = [Stress Energy Tensor]

"Mass tells space-time how to curve and space-time tells
mass how to move"


Two different things that are in direct communication.


Is space a form of energy? That is a big mystery...


Space can be constructed of discrete units with Boolean
truth values, 1 or 0


1010
0101
1010
0101


A network of discrete "bits". These bits would be
continuously connected yet still be discrete indivisible
units. Just like a magnet has both north and south poles
but those poles cannot be separated into monopoles.



Interesting... Gravitons might simply be the transferring
of quantum "states" of the fundamental space-time "bits".

For a graviton/space-time bit:

state XY = 1

state YX = 0

or vice versa.

Russell E. Rierson wrote:


Do "gravitons" have gravity?

What is north of the north pole?





[Einstein Tensor] = [Stress Energy Tensor]

"Mass tells space-time how to curve and space-time tells
mass how to move"


Two different things that are in direct communication.

The statement is merely suggestive about the theory. It is not to be
taken literally.

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Perfect[absolute] symmetry cannot physically exist

Perfect Symmetry --- Symmetry Breaking

[1.] Nothingness is a difficult concept, or rather a
difficult "non-concept" since it is nothing.

Since you posted to a physics forum and not philosophy then note when
scientists speak of free space, the quantum vacuum etc its is usually
evident from context what is meant and no problems arise. It is only you
philosophy types that mistake physics for philosophy that have problems.
This is explained, by a philosopher so you types can understand it, he
http://www.friesian.com/feynman.htm


[2.] To say that nothingness exists is to create a
contradiction, since nothingness is non-existence.
Nothingness "non-exists".

Since the above is not what physics says then it is irrelevant.


[3.] Nothingness is non-existence; therefore nothingness is
non-relational. Nothingness has no distinctiveness in and
of itself, hence nothingness cannot be recognizable.

[4.] Being-ness means basically "to be", and to exist.
Being-ness exists.

[5.] Take any two distinct quantities-attributes of
existence:

A------P------B

A and B perceive each other to be different with perception
P. That is to say A ,is perceived to be different from B
and B is perceived to be different from A.

A and B are different elements of a larger picture, but
they also[must] share certain common attributes of the
larger reality including them. From that perspective A and
B are the same, because aspects of A transform into B and
aspects of B transform into A. At a higher level of
generality and symmetry, A cannot be distinguished from B,
and B cannot be distinguished from A. For example, dogs and
cats are distinctively different, yet dogs and cats are the
same from the perspective that both are "mammals".

[6.] Following this premise, it stands to reason that all
attributes & aspects of reality can be transformed into
each other, and hence they have no distinctions from each
other[at continually higher and higher levels of symmetry].


[7.] Therefore, it follows, that at a top[perfect?] level
of symmetry, everything is nothing...



Do "gravitons" have gravity?

Do lines have lines? You philosophy type should pay close attention to
Wiggenstein and his tractatatus -
http://www.kfs.org/~jonathan/witt/tlph.html - specifically the conclusion
'Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.'



[Einstein Tensor] = [Stress Energy Tensor]

"Mass tells space-time how to curve and space-time tells
mass how to move"


Two different things that are in direct communication.

Does an electric charge communicate with its field? All we can say is that
an electric charge has a field. Remember 'Whereof one cannot speak, thereof
one must be silent.'



Is space a form of energy? That is a big mystery...


Not once you understand what energy is - see
http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath564/kmath564.htm. When applied to GR
something quite interesting does emerge however
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...energy_gr.html.



Space can be constructed of discrete units with Boolean
truth values, 1 or 0


1010
0101
1010
0101


A network of discrete "bits". These bits would be
continuously connected yet still be discrete indivisible
units. Just like a magnet has both north and south poles
but those poles cannot be separated into monopoles.

The paper proving this conjecture is located at?




Interesting... Gravitons might simply be the transferring
of quantum "states" of the fundamental space-time "bits".

For a graviton/space-time bit:

state XY = 1

state YX = 0

or vice versa.

Publish a coherent theory and make predictions.

Bill

.............. ...Gravity. It keeps you rooted to the ground. In space,
there's not any gravity. You just kind of leave your feet and go floating
around. Is that what being in love is like?????????????....................
....

-- Josh Brand and John Falsey,

--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
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