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Christoffel instead of Riemann



 
 
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Old July 17th 04 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
Edward Green
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Doug Sweetser wrote in message ...

Since you cast your pearl before swine, may I ask two too simple questions...

A^mu_;nu = A^mu_,nu + L^w mu_nu A_w =~ A^mu_,nu


What is the difference between a semicolon and a comma here?

R^a_bcd = L^a_bd,c - L^a_bc,d + L^a_uc L^c_bd - L^a_ud L^u_bc 8.44


What is L?
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Dirk Van de moortel
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"Edward Green" wrote in message m...
Doug Sweetser wrote in message ...

Since you cast your pearl before swine, may I ask two too simple questions...

A^mu_;nu = A^mu_,nu + L^w mu_nu A_w =~ A^mu_,nu


What is the difference between a semicolon and a comma here?


Comma is partial derivative
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CommaDerivative.html
Semicolon is covariant derivative
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CovariantDerivative.html


R^a_bcd = L^a_bd,c - L^a_bc,d + L^a_uc L^c_bd - L^a_ud L^u_bc 8.44


What is L?


L is the horizontally mirrored ASCII-version of the capital Gamma
(Christoffel symbol of the second kind). See
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Christo...econdKind.html
The above equation is equation (5) on
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RiemannTensor.html

Edward, just puzzled and wondering a bit...
are you by any chance the Ed Green of
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/gr/oz7.html
?

Dirk Vdm


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Old July 18th 04 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
Edward Green
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Default Christoffel instead of Riemann

"Dirk Van de moortel" wrote in message ...
"Edward Green" wrote in message m...
Doug Sweetser wrote in message ...

Since you cast your pearl before swine, may I ask two too simple questions...

A^mu_;nu = A^mu_,nu + L^w mu_nu A_w =~ A^mu_,nu


What is the difference between a semicolon and a comma here?


Comma is partial derivative
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CommaDerivative.html
Semicolon is covariant derivative
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CovariantDerivative.html


R^a_bcd = L^a_bd,c - L^a_bc,d + L^a_uc L^c_bd - L^a_ud L^u_bc 8.44


What is L?


L is the horizontally mirrored ASCII-version of the capital Gamma
(Christoffel symbol of the second kind). See
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Christo...econdKind.html
The above equation is equation (5) on
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RiemannTensor.html


Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Edward, just puzzled and wondering a bit...
are you by any chance the Ed Green of
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/gr/oz7.html
?


Yes; or at least I am the individual upon whom that Ed Green's
exploits were based, however loosely. As you can see, I've made great
progress in GR since those days when I dabbled with JB, since I'm
still asking about the meaning of standard symbols. ;-)
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Old July 18th 04 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
Dirk Van de moortel
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Default Christoffel instead of Riemann


"Edward Green" wrote in message om...
"Dirk Van de moortel" wrote in message

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"Edward Green" wrote in message m...
Doug Sweetser wrote in message ...

Since you cast your pearl before swine, may I ask two too simple questions...

A^mu_;nu = A^mu_,nu + L^w mu_nu A_w =~ A^mu_,nu

What is the difference between a semicolon and a comma here?


Comma is partial derivative
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CommaDerivative.html
Semicolon is covariant derivative
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CovariantDerivative.html


R^a_bcd = L^a_bd,c - L^a_bc,d + L^a_uc L^c_bd - L^a_ud L^u_bc 8.44

What is L?


L is the horizontally mirrored ASCII-version of the capital Gamma
(Christoffel symbol of the second kind). See
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Christo...econdKind.html
The above equation is equation (5) on
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RiemannTensor.html


Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Edward, just puzzled and wondering a bit...
are you by any chance the Ed Green of
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/gr/oz7.html
?


Yes; or at least I am the individual upon whom that Ed Green's
exploits were based, however loosely.


It's been a while now... I really enjoyed these exploits and I
had been wondering about the cast.

As you can see, I've made great
progress in GR since those days when I dabbled with JB, since I'm
still asking about the meaning of standard symbols. ;-)


Well, actually this isn't GR but merely differential geometry,
not the most accessible backroom of mathematics indeed :-)

Dirk Vdm


 




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