Dear Old Physics:

"Old Physics" wrote in message
om...
Just a try, try, try again.

In a variation of the experiment suggested by David Smith, two
atomic clocks are synchronized, then one is driven away with a
reflector and receiver. The one way light trip should always be half
the round trip. In effect it may be that electronic communication
depends on this.
If the separation is 18.6 miles and the clock takes 20 min to
transport, the relative time dilation for the moving clock will be
less than 1/80th of a nanosecond. If our velocity through an aether
were 186mps, 1/1000th SoL, the signal would be 100ns late in the
direction of travel and 100ns early in the opposite direction.
A null result may be a forgone conclusion, but wouldn't it be
an actual measurement of OWLS, invalidating the classic stationary
medium of Lorentz?

As I've said, they did this with a gamma source "centered" between two
detectors, and got a null result. Pretty sloppy error bars though. Note
that the centering process establishes clock synchronization (equal TWLS
distance), and so c should be expected.

The same could be said for your trucks, which would presumably rely on the
GPS for accurate postioning. So you'd end up with Relativity locating the
trucks, and c as the net result.

OWLS measurement is not feasable. Even if you ask the same question every
week for the rest of your life.

David A. Smith

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Dear Old Physics:

"Old Physics" wrote in message
om...
Just a try, try, try again.

In a variation of the experiment suggested by David Smith, two
atomic clocks are synchronized, then one is driven away with a
reflector and receiver. The one way light trip should always be half
the round trip. In effect it may be that electronic communication
depends on this.
If the separation is 18.6 miles and the clock takes 20 min to
transport, the relative time dilation for the moving clock will be
less than 1/80th of a nanosecond. If our velocity through an aether
were 186mps, 1/1000th SoL, the signal would be 100ns late in the
direction of travel and 100ns early in the opposite direction.
A null result may be a forgone conclusion, but wouldn't it be
an actual measurement of OWLS, invalidating the classic stationary
medium of Lorentz?

As I've said, they did this with a gamma source "centered" between two
detectors, and got a null result. Pretty sloppy error bars though. Note
that the centering process establishes clock synchronization (equal TWLS
distance), and so c should be expected.

What was the name of the experiment? Is there a site where I
could find out more?

The same could be said for your trucks, which would presumably rely on the
GPS for accurate postioning. So you'd end up with Relativity locating the
trucks, and c as the net result.

The trucks exact position need not be known, this is simply to
test whether there is any difference between half the round trip time,
to the truck and back, and the one way time to the truck.

OWLS measurement is not feasable. Even if you ask the same question every
week for the rest of your life.

David A. Smith

But this experiment is feasible. If it hasn't been done before it
ought to be tried. If not a test of OWLS, it would atleast cover an
aspect of light that the MMX did not.

Dear Old Physics:

"Old Physics" wrote in message
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Dear Old Physics:

"Old Physics" wrote in message
om...
Just a try, try, try again.

In a variation of the experiment suggested by David Smith, two
atomic clocks are synchronized, then one is driven away with a
reflector and receiver. The one way light trip should always be
half
the round trip. In effect it may be that electronic communication
depends on this.
If the separation is 18.6 miles and the clock takes 20 min to
transport, the relative time dilation for the moving clock will be
less than 1/80th of a nanosecond. If our velocity through an
aether
were 186mps, 1/1000th SoL, the signal would be 100ns late in the
direction of travel and 100ns early in the opposite direction.
A null result may be a forgone conclusion, but wouldn't it be
an actual measurement of OWLS, invalidating the classic stationary
medium of Lorentz?

As I've said, they did this with a gamma source "centered" between two
detectors, and got a null result. Pretty sloppy error bars though.
Note
that the centering process establishes clock synchronization (equal
TWLS
distance), and so c should be expected.

What was the name of the experiment? Is there a site where I
could find out more?

Sadeh D.
Experimental evidence for the constancy of the velocity of gamma rays,
using annihilation in flight
Physical Review Letters. - 1963 .-v. 10. - p. 271 - 273
URL:http://www.geocities.com/acmephysics/b_e/e04_2.htm
And I'll apologize in advance for the popups...

The same could be said for your trucks, which would presumably rely on
the
GPS for accurate postioning. So you'd end up with Relativity locating
the
trucks, and c as the net result.

The trucks exact position need not be known, this is simply to
test whether there is any difference between half the round trip time,
to the truck and back, and the one way time to the truck.

It doesn't do what you think it does.

OWLS measurement is not feasable. Even if you ask the same question
every
week for the rest of your life.

But this experiment is feasible. If it hasn't been done before it
ought to be tried. If not a test of OWLS, it would atleast cover an
aspect of light that the MMX did not.

It isn't significantly different than what has been tried. I know you are
proud of the setup, and it would be fine for a school project...

David A. Smith

What was the name of the experiment? Is there a site where I
could find out more?

Sadeh D.
Experimental evidence for the constancy of the velocity of gamma rays,
using annihilation in flight
Physical Review Letters. - 1963 .-v. 10. - p. 271 - 273
URL:http://www.geocities.com/acmephysics/b_e/e04_2.htm
And I'll apologize in advance for the popups...

The same could be said for your trucks, which would presumably rely on
the
GPS for accurate postioning. So you'd end up with Relativity locating
the
trucks, and c as the net result.

The trucks exact position need not be known, this is simply to
test whether there is any difference between half the round trip time,
to the truck and back, and the one way time to the truck.

It doesn't do what you think it does.

OWLS measurement is not feasable. Even if you ask the same question
every
week for the rest of your life.

But this experiment is feasible. If it hasn't been done before it
ought to be tried. If not a test of OWLS, it would atleast cover an
aspect of light that the MMX did not.

It isn't significantly different than what has been tried. I know you are
proud of the setup, and it would be fine for a school project...

David A. Smith

Actually I'm a bit embarassed. Setting it up this way makes it
clear that it is not a unique, but it is simple and fairly sensitive.
It might be called a half MMX. It's within range of an ambitious HS
science club, another way to validate relativity. Thanks for your
post.