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HEISENBURG'S UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle states that an observer of a relativistic particle can only know its position or its velocity, not both. He bases his conjecture on the fact that we can only measure these parameters with the aid of photons. Since these photons affect the relativistic particle's position and/or velocity (speed and direction), it is impossible to make such measurements. However the fact that we can't measure something doesn't mean that whatever we are trying to measure doesn't exist. Until recently it was impossible to take a look at the back of the moon, since it faces the earth the same way as it circles around us. Yet this doesn't mean that the moon doesn't have a back. Since I propose that all relativistic particles (particles that travel at close to the speed of light) follow a helical path, I contend that it is possible to calculate both the position and the velocity of a relativistic particle at a given time t. Providing we know the starting position of the h.w. particle as well as its h.w. frequency, amplitude and the speed at which the helical particle wave progresses through space (or its helical wavelength). Suppose we observe a helical wave particle that travels away from us, following a counter clock-wise helical path. Next we measure the x-coordinate of the particle from the centre line of the helical wave to the right. The y-coordinate of the particle is measured from the centre line up. The z-coordinate of the particle is the distance it has traveled away from the observer along the centre line at time t. Providing we know the starting point of the h.w. particle at time zero, we can now calculate its position and the direction in which it is travelling at any given time t. When we observe the particle travelling away from us, it will appear to be travelling in a circle. t = the time at which the measurement is made. f = the frequency of the helical wave particle. A = the amplitude of the helical wave particle and G stands for the wavelength gamma of the helical wave particle. At any time t the coordinates of the h.w. particle are as follows: z = t f G x = A/2 cos. (t f 360) y = A/2 sin. (t f 360) The direction in which the particle is travelling is determined by the position on its helical trajectory at time t, which is a function of its coordinates z, x, and y. If we think of a helical particle wave as a helical coil spring, the direction in which particle is travelling will always be along the coil spring. Once we know its position, we know in which direction it is travelling at that point in time. Enjoy, Len. PS, For further information see my website at: http://www2.rideau.net/gaasbeek |
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"Len Gaasenbeek" wrote in message ... HEISENBURG'S UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE You have the wrong spelling there, mr. Goosebutt. That's 5 points http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html Dirk Vdm |
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Len Gaasenbeek:
HEISENBURG'S UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle states that an observer of a relativistic particle can only know its position or its velocity, not both. That is not what the uncertainty principle states. |
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Len Gaasenbeek a écrit :
HEISENBURG'S UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle states that an observer of a relativistic particle can only know its position or its velocity, not both. Heiseb*e*rg's Principle definitely does not state that, and has nothing to do with relativity, it applies to any particle, relativist or not. He bases his conjecture on the fact that we can only measure these parameters with the aid of photons. Since these photons affect the relativistic particle's position and/or velocity (speed and direction), it is impossible to make such measurements. This is not true, why don't you try to learn something about what you pretend speaking about without dying ? - Heisenberg's conjecture is not based on photon only measure, it is based on any kind of measure with any kind of mean. - Heisenberg's principle can be stated without any reference to the problem of perturbartion when measuring. It is a general principle coming from non-commutativity of operators (you have the same kind of relation between energy and time for instance) - Heisenberg's interpretation of his own principle (which should better be called "Undermination Principle" than "Uncertainty Principle") has been refuted by an experiment. The point is in undiscernability of paths, not interaction. See S. Dürr, T. Nonn, G. Rempe in Nature : http://www.mpq.mpg.de/qdynamics/members/S.Duerr.html [snip the rest of bull****] |
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