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Old May 17th 04 posted to it.cultura.ateismo,alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity
Anolethron
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Some physicists have demonstrated that before big bang there MUST be
matter.
So the cause of big bang is matter and not god.


"so"? I miss the logical link you made up. You are such a donkey...
There you go Frank! Wrong concepts, wrong words. You probably experience
difficulties writing in italian. Why the hell must you always try to write
something in english?


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Old May 17th 04 posted to it.cultura.ateismo,alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity
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Vi va di parlarne? Possibilmente in italiano?

Ti va di andare a stirare?


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Dear Franco:

"Franco" wrote in message
news
Agnostics suppose that before big bang there could be "god". And "god"
created big bang.


More correctly, this God *could* have then created the Universe. The term
Big Bang was adopted to meld with "let there be light".

Some physicists have demonstrated that before big bang there MUST be

matter.

No. They are pretty well convinced that there was only energy. Matter
requires the strong and weak interaction forces, which had not gelled from
the primordial fires for some fractions of a second later.

So the cause of big bang is matter and not god.


To speak of cause, is to speak of things constrained to this Universe. God
is not so constrained.

Thus, physics has demonstrated that kind of god(god who created big bang:
cause of big bang) does not exist. That kind of god can't exist.


That kind of God is of this Universe, and is of little concern. The God
that created this system with a Word, and ordered all its happenings (such
as the city to which an arrow will point) is the God of consideration.

And this has nothing at all to do with relativity.

David A. Smith


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Old May 17th 04 posted to it.cultura.ateismo,alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity
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"Anolethron" ha scritto nel messaggio
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Vi va di parlarne? Possibilmente in italiano?


Ti va di andare a stirare?


Hai paura di qualcosa se anche una donna si interessa a cose che i religiosi
limitano ai maschi? :-)




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Old May 17th 04 posted to it.cultura.ateismo,alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity
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"Franco" wrote in message news | Agnostics suppose that before big bang there could be "god". And "god"
| created big bang.


This Atheist doesn't suppose there was a big bang at all, so you begin with an incorrect supposition.


| Some physicists have demonstrated that before big bang there MUST be matter.

Oh? Some physicists went back in time, did they?


|
| So the cause of big bang is matter and not god.

The CAUSE of the SUPPOSED big bang is a misinterpretation of the redshift, by Hubble. The only evidence for any supposed big bang is redshift, and the reason for that is distance alone, not velocity. If Hubble had paid attention to Planck's E = h(nu), he might have realized there was an alternative explanation.

Androcles


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| Thus, physics has demonstrated that kind of god(god who created big bang:
| cause of big bang) does not exist. That kind of god can't exist.
|
| Franco
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Old May 17th 04 posted to it.cultura.ateismo,alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity
Sasaeanna
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Ti fa paura anche questo? Va in chiesa a chiedi protezione al dio protettore
:-)

"Anolethron" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Some physicists have demonstrated that before big bang there MUST be

matter.
So the cause of big bang is matter and not god.


"so"? I miss the logical link you made up. You are such a donkey...
There you go Frank! Wrong concepts, wrong words. You probably experience
difficulties writing in italian. Why the hell must you always try to write
something in english?




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Old May 17th 04 posted to it.cultura.ateismo,alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity
Anolethron
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"Sasaeanna" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Ti fa paura anche questo? Va in chiesa a chiedi protezione al dio

protettore
:-)


Ecco ... il tuo cervello si è applicato con scarso successo ancora una
volta.


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Old May 17th 04 posted to it.cultura.ateismo,alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity
Jim07D4
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"Franco" said:

Agnostics suppose that before big bang there could be "god". And "god"
created big bang.


Could someone explain the concept of there being a "before" before
space-time?

Jim07D4
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Old May 17th 04 posted to it.cultura.ateismo,alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity
Anolethron
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Hai paura di qualcosa se anche una donna si interessa a cose che i

religiosi
limitano ai maschi? :-)


No. Più che altro mi dispiace per gli scarsi risultati.


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Old May 17th 04 posted to it.cultura.ateismo,alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity
Sasaeanna
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"Anolethron" ha scritto nel messaggio
...

"Sasaeanna" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Ti fa paura anche questo? Va in chiesa a chiedi protezione al dio

protettore
:-)


Ecco ... il tuo cervello si è applicato con scarso successo ancora una
volta.


Naaa...ha lanciato la fecciatina ed ha centrato il bersaglio ;-)



 




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