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Old May 16th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
Mitchell
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A particle generates a gravity field.
If the particle obeys the uncertainty principle
where would the mass be that generates the gravity? How would it be moving?
Would it be popping up here and there shifting the gravity around?

Shouldn't this be Quantum Gravity?
Once the uncertainty principle is brought in what would this do
to how the particle generates its gravity?
Mitch Raemsch

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Old May 16th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
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"Mitchell" wrote in message
m...
A particle generates a gravity field.
If the particle obeys the uncertainty principle
where would the mass be that generates the gravity? How would it be

moving?
Would it be popping up here and there shifting the gravity around?

Shouldn't this be Quantum Gravity?
Once the uncertainty principle is brought in what would this do
to how the particle generates its gravity?
Mitch Raemsch



No. You have to quantize the field. Explain the gravitational
field in terms of virtual exchange particles. If the field has
infinite extent, they're massless with infinite lifetime. The
preferred, and so far unsuccessful, choice is spin 2 gravitons
which are tensor bosons. [Old Man]


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Old May 16th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
Sam Wormley
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Mitchell wrote:

A particle generates a gravity field.
If the particle obeys the uncertainty principle
where would the mass be that generates the gravity? How would it be moving?
Would it be popping up here and there shifting the gravity around?

Shouldn't this be Quantum Gravity?
Once the uncertainty principle is brought in what would this do
to how the particle generates its gravity?
Mitch Raemsch


Gravity is a universal interaction in Newtonian theory between all mass, and,
since E = mc^2, in relativistic gravity between all forms of energy.

Assuming you are participating in news:sci.physics to learn something,
start with the Usenet Physics FAQs at
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/index.html

There are many good book listed at
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic..._booklist.html
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Old May 16th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
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"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...
Mitchell wrote:

A particle generates a gravity field.
If the particle obeys the uncertainty principle
where would the mass be that generates the gravity? How would it be

moving?
Would it be popping up here and there shifting the gravity around?

Shouldn't this be Quantum Gravity?
Once the uncertainty principle is brought in what would this do
to how the particle generates its gravity?
Mitch Raemsch


Gravity is a universal interaction in Newtonian theory between all mass,

and,
since E = mc^2, in relativistic gravity between all forms of energy.

Assuming you are participating in news:sci.physics to learn something,
start with the Usenet Physics FAQs at
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/index.html

There are many good book listed at
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic..._booklist.html


He has had references pointed out to him before with zero effect. At least
one person has reached the conclusion he is simply lonely.

Thanks
Bill


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Old May 16th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
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Mitchell wrote:

A particle generates a gravity field.


No, stooopid. Not "gravity", "gravitation." "Gravity" is something
different.

If the particle obeys the uncertainty principle
where would the mass be that generates the gravity? How would it be moving?
Would it be popping up here and there shifting the gravity around?


Idiot.

Shouldn't this be Quantum Gravity?


Not even an idiot.

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Old May 17th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
Franz Heymann
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"Mitchell" wrote in message
m...
A particle generates a gravity field.
If the particle obeys the uncertainty principle
where would the mass be that generates the gravity? How would it be

moving?
Would it be popping up here and there shifting the gravity around?

Shouldn't this be Quantum Gravity?
Once the uncertainty principle is brought in what would this do
to how the particle generates its gravity?


I really did not think that anybody as stupid as this would have the
temerity to post to sci.physics

Franz


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Old May 18th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
John Schoenfeld
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Sam Wormley wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

A particle generates a gravity field.
If the particle obeys the uncertainty principle
where would the mass be that generates the gravity? How would it be moving?
Would it be popping up here and there shifting the gravity around?

Shouldn't this be Quantum Gravity?
Once the uncertainty principle is brought in what would this do
to how the particle generates its gravity?
Mitch Raemsch


Gravity is a universal interaction in Newtonian theory between all mass, and,
since E = mc^2, in relativistic gravity between all forms of energy.


SCHOENFELDS LAW OF GRAVITATION:

Fg = (yeYE)/(c^4r^2)
where
y = 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
Y = 1/sqrt(1-V^2/c^2)
e = mass-energy of body 1
E = mass-energy of body 2
v = velocity of body 1
V = velocity of body 2
r = frame-dependent distance between body 1 and body 2
c = light speed



Assuming you are participating in news:sci.physics to learn something,
start with the Usenet Physics FAQs at
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/index.html

There are many good book listed at
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic..._booklist.html

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Old May 18th 04 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
mitch perkins
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message ...
"Mitchell" wrote in message
m...
A particle generates a gravity field.
If the particle obeys the uncertainty principle
where would the mass be that generates the gravity? How would it be

moving?
Would it be popping up here and there shifting the gravity around?

Shouldn't this be Quantum Gravity?
Once the uncertainty principle is brought in what would this do
to how the particle generates its gravity?


I really did not think that anybody as stupid as this would have the
temerity to post to sci.physics

Franz


I take it you have not seen any of *my* posts.

Ladies and gentlemen...introducing... "One Downmanship"!

Thank you!
Mitch Perkins
 




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