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Subject: Big Bang Busted in Science Classes for High Schools
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:27:16 -0500
From: nightbat
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nightbat wrote

Bill Sheppard wrote:

From Mr.Shastry:

Only descrimination between real and
illusory is needed. Once this is known
modern physics fits well within the
illusory framework,.....
Anything which appears only is
illusory. Real singularity cannot appear.

Hey Shastry, your continued use of "illusory" and "illusion" is a bit
outdated, rooted as it is in the ancient Vedic connotation meaning
'unreal' or non-real.

Look at your reflection in a mirror. Sure, it's an illusion but a very
real illusion, and a faithful reproduction of the 'real'. Similarly, the
physical universe is a faithful rendition of the unseen underlying
Primary Reality-- by whatever name it's known, Bohm's 'Implicate Order',
the sub-Planck energy domain, or your Singularity (or state of
singularity). The seen is every bit as real as the unseen.
Git hip dude.

But you're quite correct that modern physics deals only with the visible
while ignoring and even denying the Primary Reality from which it
springs. As such, it is a sand castle without a foundation in matters
concerning the GUT/UFT/TOE. oc

nightbat

Ha, ha, oc, you don't get more modern then us Mavericks. We are
becoming soooooo modern we are no longer futuristic but in vogue. (:~)

Don't forget that Shastry has built his whole model on human or total
conscience emanating from classical singularity not its logical
solution. Jack Saffatti even claims it as Vacuum Space Quantum VSQ for
the Vacuum Energy Density VED and trying to say it's all his own. As
soon as the Baby GUT is recognized, everyone will say how cute and
attempt to claim the baby as their own. The Einstein referred curse
however will be on the one willing to take the rap with the positive and
the negative.

Whose model will be accepted, Shastry echo's the educational system of
should it be based on multi ex.(Creation, BB, M String, Wolter engine,
theories) yet non proven based illusory theories or factual resolved
one? If the modern physics/cosmologist's theorist's point to the
invisible sub-Planck quantum then Einstein wins because of his
preference only to the measurable, quantifiable, macro visible. The
invisible undetectable Maxwell classical aether was made irrelevant for
this matter. If it is grasped only from the sub Planck quantum basis
then Oppenheimer pointing wins and provides for possible GUT foundation
but will Mr. Shastry like the doubting many be satisfied or demand to
see what can not be seen but logically deduced?

And finally will the nightbat profound postulate of " Black Comet " and
the " Continuing Universe Rule " pull it off of finally providing
logical solution unifying both the macro with the micro quantum fields,
time will tell.


later oc,
the nightbat

Bill Sheppard wrote:

From Mr.Shastry:

Only descrimination between real and
illusory is needed. Once this is known
modern physics fits well within the
illusory framework,.....
Anything which appears only is
illusory. Real singularity cannot appear.

Hey Shastry, your continued use of "illusory" and "illusion" is a bit
outdated, rooted as it is in the ancient Vedic connotation meaning
'unreal' or non-real.

Look at your reflection in a mirror. Sure, it's an illusion but a very
real illusion, and a faithful reproduction of the 'real'. Similarly, the
physical universe is a faithful rendition of the unseen underlying
Primary Reality-- by whatever name it's known, Bohm's 'Implicate Order',
the sub-Planck energy domain, or your Singularity (or state of
singularity). The seen is every bit as real as the unseen.
Git hip dude.

But you're quite correct that modern physics deals only with the visible
while ignoring and even denying the Primary Reality from which it
springs. As such, it is a sand castle without a foundation in matters
concerning the GUT/UFT/TOE. oc
(snip)


Exactly, Bill Sheppard, the GUT/UFT/TOE are indeed sand castles
without a foundation. For, the foundation in the form of singularity
as unity already existing, is responsible for the tendency to unify
all force fields comprising the universe. However, a minimum diversity
is necessary for the universe to be visible. And so, all the force
fields may not be unified and are not even expected to unify again as
the unity already exists in the form of singularity.

Now, there is nothing outdated about the term illusory, for, it is the
exact word for the type of 'reality' the universe is. For, the
universe disappears at the reality, the singularity. What do you call
such an appearance which disappears on knowledge? Mirage or illusory.
Now, illusory is neither real nor unreal. There is no harm in calling
a thing as known.

S S Shastry