To all,

When I look at a tree I look at something mother nature created without any
input from me.
When I consider "the flow of time" it is a concept man invented without any
help from mother nature.

The problem is that some people look upon a concept as if it was a real
thing like a tree.
But just because I can think of a thing, that doesn't make it so. Or, to
put it differently, a concept is just in my mind, whereas a tree is
something that is actually there for everyone to look at.

The concept of time was invented and defined by man to keep track of events.
It allows one to meet a friend tomorrow, at noon, at the local pub. It
tells people when to go to work and when to go home etc. But when all is
said and done, the concept of time was originated and defined by man to give
order to his life, that's all.

This being the case, once you agree on its definition, time is invariant for
it to work for all at all times. This makes the concept of time dilation
unreasonable and unworkable because it contradicts the very concept of time
as defined by man for use by man.

As far as mother nature is concerned, not only does the concept of time mean
nothing to her since it was invented by man, but the concept of man-made
time doesn't affect her master plan in any way shape or form because it
isn't part of the REAL world.

One day I talked to a Chinese friend about retirement. We were both looking
forward to it. I mentioned that I would have to watch my weight, if I was
within reach of the refrigerator all day, instead of just at night. She
looked at me and said: you look fine to me, what are you worried about?

It suddenly dawned on me that traditionally in China only the affluent
people were fat since they could afford to eat more than they needed to
survive. Consequently, to be fat was a status symbol which people looked up
to. (This is why Chinese Buddha's are fat as compared to Indian or Japanese
Buddha's et al.)

So I smiled and replied: you are right, it is all in the way you look at it.
My problem is not that I am fat, but that I was born in the wrong country.

Now here we have an example of an actual body which looks the same to all
observers in real terms. Yet conceptually I look unhealthy to a Canadian
but healthy and affluent to a Chinese.
So here we have an example of two different concepts for one reality.

Now we all agree that the way I look remains the same no matter who looks at
me.
Relativists on the other hand maintain that the way you look at things makes
them the way they are. For example, depending on how you look at light, an
observer can turn it into a string of moving light particles or into a
light-wave.

Similarly, relativists agree that fast travelling people don't age more
slowly, as measured by their own clock, than the stationary observer who
stayed at home. Yet relativists also maintain that after the travellers get
back, they will have aged less than the people who stayed home.

So there it is; in reality an object is either white or black. Relativists
on the other hand maintain that a body can be both white and/or black,
depending on who is looking at it.

MINDSET

To be born a Protestant
In Northern Ireland
Is to hate all Catholics
And be hated in return.

To be born a Protestant or Catholic
In Canada
Is to love one another
As fellow Christians.

If our mindset is one of
Ignorance, greed and hatred
We not only cause others to suffer
But will make our own life a misery.

Conversely if we practice kindness an honesty
We can even face personal misfortune
With a peaceful heart because
We will love and trust others
As we love ourselves.

Len Gaasenbeek, 1996
Revised, 1998 and 2000.

Enjoy, Len.
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"Len Gaasenbeek" wrote in message
...

To all,

When I look at a tree I look at something mother nature created without
any
input from me.
When I consider "the flow of time" it is a concept man invented without
any
help from mother nature.

When I look at a tree I look at something mother nature created without any
input from me.
When I consider that my parents are dead, by daughters are wed, my
grandchildren are not yet grown, it is a concept NATURE invented without
any help from me. I call it "the flow of time" .


The problem is that some people look upon a concept as if it was a real
thing like a tree.

The problem is that some people look upon reality as if it were just a
concept.


But just because I can think of a thing, that doesn't make it so. Or, to
put it differently, a concept is just in my mind, whereas a tree is
something that is actually there for everyone to look at.

So is Mickey Mouse.


The concept of time was invented and defined by man to keep track of
events.
It allows one to meet a friend tomorrow, at noon, at the local pub. It
tells people when to go to work and when to go home etc. But when all is
said and done, the concept of time was originated and defined by man to
give
order to his life, that's all.

Phooey. The pub will be there tomorrow, at noon, whether you go or not, and
the sun will be at zenith. There isn't a darned thing you can do about it,
so accept it.


This being the case, once you agree on its definition,
I don't.
Remainder snipped, it's based on a false premise.
Androcles

To Androcles,

"To treat your facts with imagination is one thing,
to imagine your facts is another."

John Burroughs (1837-1921) US naturalist.
The Heart of Burroughs Journals.

Len.
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"Androcles" wrote in message
...

"Len Gaasenbeek" wrote in message
...

To all,

When I look at a tree I look at something mother nature created without
any
input from me.
When I consider "the flow of time" it is a concept man invented without
any
help from mother nature.

When I look at a tree I look at something mother nature created without
any
input from me.
When I consider that my parents are dead, by daughters are wed, my
grandchildren are not yet grown, it is a concept NATURE invented without
any help from me. I call it "the flow of time" .


The problem is that some people look upon a concept as if it was a real
thing like a tree.

The problem is that some people look upon reality as if it were just a
concept.


But just because I can think of a thing, that doesn't make it so. Or,
to
put it differently, a concept is just in my mind, whereas a tree is
something that is actually there for everyone to look at.

So is Mickey Mouse.


The concept of time was invented and defined by man to keep track of
events.
It allows one to meet a friend tomorrow, at noon, at the local pub. It
tells people when to go to work and when to go home etc. But when all
is
said and done, the concept of time was originated and defined by man to
give
order to his life, that's all.

Phooey. The pub will be there tomorrow, at noon, whether you go or not,
and
the sun will be at zenith. There isn't a darned thing you can do about it,
so accept it.


This being the case, once you agree on its definition,
I don't.
Remainder snipped, it's based on a false premise.
Androcles