The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.

Mitch Raemsch

Mitchell wrote:

The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.

Mitch Raemsch

I didn't see anything testable in there. How about some math?

Richard Perry

Richard wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.

Mitch Raemsch

I didn't see anything testable in there. How about some math?

Richard Perry

Acceleration(gravity)C

Using the earth as the standard the strength of gravity will not
diminish as fast (as GR predicts) for smaller objects. And conversly
the strength of gravity will not increase as fast for larger objects.

It's similar to relativistic addition of velocities: double
the mass(or density) and you do not quite double the strength
of gravity; Half the mass and the gravity will be slightly more
than half.

Mitch Raemsch

On 19 Jan 2004 10:26:41 -0800, (Mitchell)
wrote:
Richard wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.

Mitch Raemsch

I didn't see anything testable in there. How about some math?

Richard Perry

Acceleration(gravity)C

That's incoherent. The dimensions aren't even correct.

Using the earth as the standard the strength of gravity will not
diminish as fast (as GR predicts) for smaller objects. And conversly
the strength of gravity will not increase as fast for larger objects.

So you are claiming that Newton is wrong, since the strength of
gravity isn't significantly different for Newton and Einstein's
models.

It's similar to relativistic addition of velocities: double
the mass(or density) and you do not quite double the strength
of gravity; Half the mass and the gravity will be slightly more
than half.

There are more complex things than that, of course. There is the
effect of the force of gravity on the mass distribution in space, for
isntance, that result in a change in density produced purely by
gravity.


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Mitchell wrote:

The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.



Thank you for your mindless assertion that reveals yourtotal ignorance
of the concepts that you discuss
and the experimental support for those concepts.

John Anderson

John Anderson wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.



Thank you for your mindless assertion that reveals yourtotal ignorance
of the concepts that you discuss
and the experimental support for those concepts.

John Anderson


Your welcome John

Mitchell wrote:

John Anderson wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.



Thank you for your mindless assertion that reveals yourtotal ignorance
of the concepts that you discuss
and the experimental support for those concepts.

John Anderson

Your welcome John

Good,

I hope you will be inspired to actually learn something about
physics before you post here again.

John Anderson

John Anderson wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

John Anderson wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.



Thank you for your mindless assertion that reveals yourtotal ignorance
of the concepts that you discuss
and the experimental support for those concepts.

John Anderson

Your welcome John

Good,

I hope you will be inspired to actually learn something about
physics before you post here again.

John Anderson

I can't regurgitate what you have learned John.

Mitchell wrote:

John Anderson wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

John Anderson wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.



Thank you for your mindless assertion that reveals yourtotal ignorance
of the concepts that you discuss
and the experimental support for those concepts.

John Anderson

Your welcome John

Good,

I hope you will be inspired to actually learn something about
physics before you post here again.

John Anderson

I can't regurgitate what you have learned John.

You can't deny something by refusing to acknowledge it.

Experiments are the ultimate arbiters of what is accepted in physics.

John Anderson

John Anderson wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

John Anderson wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

John Anderson wrote in message ...
Mitchell wrote:

The physics of singularities alone suggests a limited
strength gravity is the answer. The fact is the breakdown
of physics happens sooner than this.

Matter is able to fall a light speed in black holes.
Really this is about the end of time. Falling at light speed goes
hand in hand with reaching the event horizon.

There is no relative time past the event horizon. The slowdown
of time around a collapsing object is absolute. A black hole
would be a timeless volume - there would be no time inside.
But you can't divorce time from space. If one goes then goes
the other.

I must paint a picture of unification which as much applies
to the begining of the universe as it does black holes:
Where time goes Everything (else) Goes with it.
No time = No space ; Can't divorce time from space
No time = No mass ; No mass without space-time
No mass = No gravity.

The End would be a complete unraveling of physics.

By Unification you cannot divorce any of the parts from the whole.
You would no longer have a whole.

Light Falls Everywhere...

The simplest understanding of the strength of gravity is by
considering it as an acceleration equivalent.
Gravity as an acceleration is limited to light speed.
Curved space-time has an intrinsic limited acceleration equivalent.



Thank you for your mindless assertion that reveals yourtotal ignorance
of the concepts that you discuss
and the experimental support for those concepts.

John Anderson

Your welcome John

Good,

I hope you will be inspired to actually learn something about
physics before you post here again.

John Anderson

I can't regurgitate what you have learned John.

You can't deny something by refusing to acknowledge it.

Experiments are the ultimate arbiters of what is accepted in physics.

John Anderson

I am not afraid Let the experiments fly...