"kenseto" wrote in message
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"Androcles" wrote in message
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Doppler's equation for aether.
a) f' = f. (c+v)/(c-v)

This is NOT Doppler's equation for the aether.
Oh, what is it then?
It is Doppler's equation for sound in air, why would it not be his
equation
for a light wave in aether?

Because air is not the same as the ether. The ether is elastic, structured
and
stationary. The structure of the ether can be deformed with the passage of
matter
particles. Light follows the deformed structure of the ether on its way to
the target.

Please enlighten us, oh wise one, with your profound wisdom and tell us
what
it should be.

The LET and SR equations are valid for use.

Doppler's equation, Einstein's version.
b) f' = f. sqrt((1+v/c)/(1-v/c))

This is not complete.
Isn't it?

It isn't because it just describe the case where the source is moving
towards
the observer. There is another equation that describes the source is
moving
away
from the observer.

Oh, unless you mean it should be f' = f.
(1-cos(phi).v/c)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2),
I was setting phi to zero to simplify the motion to one axis, and not a
fly-by.
Y'know, that EEeeeee---ooOOOWWWWW noise a car makes as it passes
you, changing phi as it goes by...
Please enlighten us, oh wise one, with your profound wisdom and tell us
what
it should be.

Doppler's equation, Androcles' version for interstellar space.
c) f' = f.(c+v)/c

This is absurd.
Is it? Well, I suppose it would be if you adopt the religion of
aetherialism.
Never mind, I won't ask you to explain it.

I did explain it above.

Just give us the equations you think should be used for relativity and
aetherilism. Oh, and remember that the frequency shift seen by MMX is
zero... Was that the shift you referred to as "confirmed
experimentally"?

The null result of the MMX is due to the fact that the MMX is moving
vertically wrt the derfined horizontal light rays.

Ken Seto
You've said that before, but you've never stated that you were a member of
the Flat Earth Society. Now you have my interest.
Where (and when) on Earth does this remarkable event take place?
A.

"Androcles" wrote in message
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"kenseto" wrote in message
...

"Androcles" wrote in message
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Doppler's equation for aether.
a) f' = f. (c+v)/(c-v)

This is NOT Doppler's equation for the aether.
Oh, what is it then?
It is Doppler's equation for sound in air, why would it not be his
equation
for a light wave in aether?

Because air is not the same as the ether. The ether is elastic,
structured
and
stationary. The structure of the ether can be deformed with the passage
of
matter
particles. Light follows the deformed structure of the ether on its way
to
the target.

Please enlighten us, oh wise one, with your profound wisdom and tell
us
what
it should be.

The LET and SR equations are valid for use.

Doppler's equation, Einstein's version.
b) f' = f. sqrt((1+v/c)/(1-v/c))

This is not complete.
Isn't it?

It isn't because it just describe the case where the source is moving
towards
the observer. There is another equation that describes the source is
moving
away
from the observer.

Oh, unless you mean it should be f' = f.
(1-cos(phi).v/c)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2),
I was setting phi to zero to simplify the motion to one axis, and not
a
fly-by.
Y'know, that EEeeeee---ooOOOWWWWW noise a car makes as it passes
you, changing phi as it goes by...
Please enlighten us, oh wise one, with your profound wisdom and tell
us
what
it should be.

Doppler's equation, Androcles' version for interstellar space.
c) f' = f.(c+v)/c

This is absurd.
Is it? Well, I suppose it would be if you adopt the religion of
aetherialism.
Never mind, I won't ask you to explain it.

I did explain it above.

Just give us the equations you think should be used for relativity and
aetherilism. Oh, and remember that the frequency shift seen by MMX is
zero... Was that the shift you referred to as "confirmed
experimentally"?

The null result of the MMX is due to the fact that the MMX is moving
vertically wrt the derfined horizontal light rays.

Ken Seto
You've said that before, but you've never stated that you were a member of
the Flat Earth Society. Now you have my interest.
Where (and when) on Earth does this remarkable event take place?

I can't help you if you got comprehension problem. Just visualize a moving
ball, if you defined one side of the ball is moving vertically up then the
other
side of the ball is moving vertically down. The light rays in all locations
are
defined as moving horizontally. This means that the surface of the ball is
moving vertically up or down wrt the light rays. So why can't you understand
that? Even Henri can understand it. If you have any more questions ask
Henri.
I will be out of town for a few weeks. Merry Christmas.

Ken Seto

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:03:06 -0500, "kenseto" wrote:


"Androcles" wrote in message
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"kenseto" wrote in message


I did explain it above.

Just give us the equations you think should be used for relativity and
aetherilism. Oh, and remember that the frequency shift seen by MMX is
zero... Was that the shift you referred to as "confirmed
experimentally"?

The null result of the MMX is due to the fact that the MMX is moving
vertically wrt the derfined horizontal light rays.

Ken Seto
You've said that before, but you've never stated that you were a member of
the Flat Earth Society. Now you have my interest.
Where (and when) on Earth does this remarkable event take place?

I can't help you if you got comprehension problem. Just visualize a moving
ball, if you defined one side of the ball is moving vertically up then the
other
side of the ball is moving vertically down. The light rays in all locations
are
defined as moving horizontally. This means that the surface of the ball is
moving vertically up or down wrt the light rays. So why can't you understand
that? Even Henri can understand it. If you have any more questions ask
Henri.

Hey wait a minute. Don't pass the buck onto me!
That isn't quite what I understood at all.
You must make clarify your argument with some more detail.



I will be out of town for a few weeks. Merry Christmas.

Christmas is a nuisance.
- but have a nice holiday. I hope it helps you see the light.



Henri Wilson.
Any connection between Einsteinian relativity and truth is purely coincidental.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm