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Bernardz wrote in message news:MPG.1a46d7ee77fd918c98979d@news...
In article , says... Does anyone know of any references where time is treated equally to the other 3Dimensions? There are certain circumstances where a Wick rotation makes the mathematics more tractible; a Wick rotation takes the real time coordinate t into a purely imaginary coordinate s=it; in terms of {x,y,z,s} the metric is diag(1,1,1,1). In some sense this treats s ("imaginary time") "the same" as space.... To some sense limited extent okay but is there any agreement on what imaginary time could mean? As far as I know, it's just a trick that's used to make an indefinite metric positive definite. From what I've heard, there's alot more understood about positive definite systems in mathematics than indefinite systems, so it makes the theory easier to work with from a pure math approach. |
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"Igor" wrote in message om... "Paul Riley" wrote in message t... One of the basic assumptions of GR is that "time" moves in one direction. Why treat time as a special case? Does anyone know of any references where time is treated equally to the other 3Dimensions? None that would give you the proper interpretation of the physics. One of the main motivations for using space-time coordinate systems in the first place is to demonstrate the invariance of the speed of light. This means that the square of the time coordinate must always take the opposite sign of the square of the spatial coordinate when determining the distance between two events in space-time. If they both had the same signs, you could do it mathematically, but it just wouldn't make any sense physically. I understand that the relativistic quantities of for example Kinetic Energy is mc^2/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) rather than 1/2mv^2 Yes it is. And the former is best approximated by mc^2 plus the latter if we expand the denominator as a power series in v^2/c^2 and keep only the first two terms. But why is time considered a special dimension? Velocity is the derivative of distance with time, eg dx/dt It's just that it has a different representation. In mathematical terms, say it has a different signature. All squared space-time intervals which are less than zero are said to be timelike, and those greater than zero, spacelike. If it's exactly zero, we call it lightlike since dx/dt = c. Why not quantities dx/dy, dt/dy etc. where y is the preferred dimension? Those indeed can have mathematical meaning, but usually not in the context of mechanics, where we're more interested in rates of change. What do the quantities of velocity and acceleration look like in 4D where all dimensions are treated equally? In 4D, we always measure kinematic quantities such as velocity and acceleration with respect to proper time interval ds = sqrt (dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2 - c^2 dt^2). We do this because this quantity is invariant, unlike coordinate time t, which transforms between frames. So the 4-velocity is given by (dx/ds, dy/ds, dz/ds, c dt/ds). Similarly for the 4-acceleration, etc. Getting clearer. but ds looks imaginary for small values of dx dy dz and finite value of dt. should there be a minus sign within the sqrt? |
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