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My Query is quite simple........
Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C ....! |
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Indeed its very simple. Look into the FAQ files for the Twin Paradoxon.
The moving twin coming back e.g. from Sirius needed only e.g. 4 years on his clock. And the distance is about 8 lys. so 16ly years in 4y shiptime gives about avg. 4c. But observers on earth measure that the ship has never exceeded 1c. Its a question of where you are. rgds Rudi "Jean" schrieb im Newsbeitrag om... My Query is quite simple........ Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C ....! |
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"Jean" wrote in message om... My Query is quite simple........ Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C ....! This may not be quite the answer you were expecting but you need to consider what you mean by 'why'. If you mean 'why' in its most fundamental sense then the question is outside the scope of physics. All we can say is that no one has ever observed an object to travel faster than light. If you mean, how does our current theory of space and time (relativity) deal with an attempt to travel faster than light then I can give some examples below. Suppose you fire one particle in one direction at three quarters of the speed of light and another at the same speed in the opposite direction (which is quite easy to do). You now have an observer on one of the particles (a little harder to do but possible, in principle) who measures the relative speed of the other particle. According to traditional (Galilean) physics, the observer would measure a relative speed of 1.5 times the speed of light but relativity has a formula for calculating the relative speed (which you can find in any relativity text book) that always gives an answer of less than the speed of light. Suppose you have a rocket that produces constant thrust and thus accelerates indefinitely. (It would have what is known in relativity as a constant proper acceleration.) If we observe this rocket from the frame of reference in which the rocket was originally at rest, we would find that the measured acceleration would decrease (according to a formula you might search for under 'relativistic rocket') as the speed of light was approached such that the speed of light is never exceeded. Finally, consider applying a force to an object in order to try to maintain a constant acceleration in its initial frame of reference. As the velocity increases, it is found that the force required to maintain a constant (coordinate) acceleration increases in such a way that to reach the speed of light an infinite force would be required. Overall, we have one theory (relativity) which mathematically describes motion in world in which we live, and which has been found to be in complete agreement with experiment. This theory makes it impossible for an object to reach the speed of light. Martin Hogbin |
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"Jean" wrote in message om... My Query is quite simple........ Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C ....! The faster the body goes the greater its mass becomes since mass is a function of velocity even though your rest mass remains the unchanged. As you appoach c your mass will become infinite. That means the momentum becomes infinite since mass is defined as the "m" in p = mv. So while v is still finite, m becomes infinite. It would require a force greater than infinity to accelerate to or past c. This follows from the fact that force is the time rate of change of momentum. See also -- http://www.fnal.gov/pub/inquiring/qu...accel_obj.html Pmb |
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"Jean" wrote in message om... My Query is quite simple........ Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Because the medium that propagate the energy used for acceleration is being conducted at a speed of c. So there is no way that a body can exceed the speed of the energy that is being used to accelerate it. Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C ....! NO. Ken Seto |
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"Rudolf Drabek" wrote in message ... Indeed its very simple. Look into the FAQ files for the Twin Paradoxon. The moving twin coming back e.g. from Sirius needed only e.g. 4 years on his clock. And the distance is about 8 lys. so 16ly years in 4y shiptime gives about avg. 4c. But observers on earth measure that the ship has never exceeded 1c. Its a question of where you are. Ah....but you can't compare the ship's 4 clock years with the earth's 16 clock years directly. Why? Because the passage of a clock year in the ship is not equal to the passage of a clock year on earth. To make the comparison you must convert the ship's clock years to the earth's clcok year as follows: Converting the ship's time to earth time=gamma*4 ship's clock years =16 earth's clcok years. What this means is that a physical clock is NOT a universal clock. A clock second does not contain the same amount of universal time (absolute time) in all frames of reference. Ken Seto rgds Rudi "Jean" schrieb im Newsbeitrag om... My Query is quite simple........ Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C .....! |
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"Jean" wrote in message om... My Query is quite simple........ Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C ....! No reason, if you have enough energy you can. Androcles |
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"Rudolf Drabek" wrote in message ... Indeed its very simple. Look into the FAQ files for the Twin Paradoxon. The moving twin coming back e.g. from Sirius needed only e.g. 4 years on his clock. And the distance is about 8 lys. so 16ly years in 4y shiptime gives about avg. 4c. But observers on earth measure that the ship has never exceeded 1c. Its a question of where you are. rgds Rudi Nonsense. "Jean" schrieb im Newsbeitrag om... My Query is quite simple........ Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C .....! |
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"Martin Hogbin" wrote in message ... "Jean" wrote in message om... My Query is quite simple........ Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C .....! This may not be quite the answer you were expecting but you need to consider what you mean by 'why'. If you mean 'why' in its most fundamental sense then the question is outside the scope of physics. All we can say is that no one has ever observed an object to travel faster than light. If you mean, how does our current theory of space and time (relativity) deal with an attempt to travel faster than light then I can give some examples below. You mean YOUR current theory, not mine. Suppose you fire one particle in one direction at three quarters of the speed of light and another at the same speed in the opposite direction (which is quite easy to do). You now have an observer on one of the particles (a little harder to do but possible, in principle) who measures the relative speed of the other particle. According to traditional (Galilean) physics, the observer would measure a relative speed of 1.5 times the speed of light but relativity has a formula for calculating the relative speed (which you can find in any relativity text book) that always gives an answer of less than the speed of light. Suppose you have a rocket that produces constant thrust and thus accelerates indefinitely. (It would have what is known in relativity as a constant proper acceleration.) If we observe this rocket from the frame of reference in which the rocket was originally at rest, we would find that the measured acceleration would decrease (according to a formula you might search for under 'relativistic rocket') as the speed of light was approached such that the speed of light is never exceeded. Finally, consider applying a force to an object in order to try to maintain a constant acceleration in its initial frame of reference. As the velocity increases, it is found that the force required to maintain a constant (coordinate) acceleration increases in such a way that to reach the speed of light an infinite force would be required. Overall, we have one theory (relativity) which mathematically describes motion in world in which we live, and which has been found to be in complete agreement with experiment. This theory makes it impossible for an object to reach the speed of light. Martin Hogbin What a load of old rubbish. Androcles |
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"Pmb" wrote in message ... "Jean" wrote in message om... My Query is quite simple........ Why can't a body simply accelerate and exceed the velocity of light???????? Just increase the velocity by some m/s for some time to reach the C .....! The faster the body goes the greater its mass becomes since mass is a function of velocity even though your rest mass remains the unchanged. As you appoach c your mass will become infinite. That means the momentum becomes infinite since mass is defined as the "m" in p = mv. So while v is still finite, m becomes infinite. It would require a force greater than infinity to accelerate to or past c. This follows from the fact that force is the time rate of change of momentum. See also -- http://www.fnal.gov/pub/inquiring/qu...accel_obj.html Pmb Nonsense. Prove it. Androcles |
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