"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ...
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free thinking is good. Contemplate on the following poem by Blake:

"To see a world in a grain of sand,
and heaven in a wild flower
Infinity in the palm of your hand
and eternity in an hour." -- Blake

c










From: "cinquirer"
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:24 AM
Subj ect: Hyperspace inside each particle?


From the number of books I read which tackle about this. The following
idea is slowly forming in my mind.

Let's analyze.

Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?
and how would you measure it, as to try to would mean bringing in lots of
particles.!!!

What is there may be Hyperspace (or whatever you want to
call it that doesn't include the Space/Time as we know it). Particles
(and their larger collective unit called atoms) are then vortexes in
Hyperspace that form the nature of our space and time. So in other
words... atoms, particles are what create our space as we know it,
and time. Without them, there is only Hyperspace and Intelligence
that in-form particles.

And with what do they inform across this empty hyperspace?

The Universe is filled with particles. Just
imagine the zillions of neutrinos zapping your body every minute and
all of space. There is never a place in space without particles. So
we can't see Hyperspace.

But if it is empty, then there is nothing there to see.

Also imagine the idea of what is at the
edge of the universe and beyond it. Or even the universe being
infinite. This boggles the mind, isn't it.

Well, if there is truly nothing in this, then it does not exist and tus it
is not infinite, isn't it.. erm, yes.
What is there at infinity
may be Hyperspace that doesn't form space/time yet owing to their
having no atoms/particles that form the vortex which create our
space/time. What is your thought about infinity.

Infinity is very very big, but we can never know if infinity exists, as to
be able to measure it and declare it infinite, would infer that it must be
finite, and if we cannot measure it, we don't know if it is infinite or
not, it might be just very big indeed. and as I said, i have no conceptual
way of measuring nothingness, and there is no frame of reference, so the
nothing you are measuring might move a bit and you would not know. You
cannot see the edge, as to do so would involve there being something in the
empty space, ie, photons.


Now let's discuss about Consciousness. Many are aware that our
brain creates our physical consciousness and awareness. However,
consider this. Suppose Hyperspace/Intelligence have a hand in the
design of our biological body by designing all the elements that made
our existence possible. Then the creation of our brain is the
handwork of Hyperspace/Intelligence. So even though our
consciousness is based on the brain. It can be extended to
the Hyperspace. Implication is that, our consciousness is compatible
with our brain as well as Hyperspace/Intelligence so we can extend
ourselves by tapping into the Hyperspace/Intelligence. Makes sense,
isn't it?

What are you drinking, and can I have some...

For those who are looking for proof. Hmm.. Let's focus on the design
of the DNA and our biological body. As the site below shows.

http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/mole...iology_15.html

There is just no way for their origin to just occur by chance. They
are designed. Read them carefully. Even James Watson, the co-discoverer
of the DNA believes this. Designed by whom? By the Intelligence
in the Hyperspace (Intelligence as pure Intelligence and not those
silly God of religions with personality and emotions)..

Ah, I see, but who designed the pure Inteligence.

I've gotten the ideas above from different books I read and
slowly realized the connections and how they makes sense. So
I treat it as a serious possibility that can explain everything
including Qi. Why. Qi is non_local, it can interact with not just
the sun but also geometrical shapes (remember Hyperspace
design atoms so their collective forms have special qualities).
Qi can then be energetic manifestation (conscious energy)
of Hyperspace/Intelligence that is behind every particle and their
collective unit the atoms.

Ah, I'd prefer to believe that in fact all of what we are and see is one
huge simulation.

c

Brian, my case comes up next week.


I'm all for free thinking though, and I'd be the last to discourage this.
Brian Gaff....
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(The Void) wrote in message . com...
[cinquirer]
Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?

[The Void]
Clearly only the redirections of amicable vectors upon infra-etheric
structure forms through tunneling. Non-violent bifurcations are
implicit around the inter-externals of non-harmonious operators.
Socio-kinetic spinors infer the pandemonium moments between frivolous
mesons. The surreptitious parity into lugubrious neutrinos are
reconnecting for the pseudo-rarefication of insurgence in the state
vectors. These non-furious algorithms take on forms of resurgence and
re-formation, procuring into the super-helical structures of
stratification. The remaining ambient circulation entertains the
habituality fields of hyperspatial waves. Do personality pseudoscalars
detour regarding the non-polar circularity of circles in the agitated
spherical harmonics of pusillanimous interference, internalizing the
external internal pseudo-bicameral data structure across eminent
domains of hegemonious Green's functions?

Funny joke Void. But let's get serious. The study of Qi can unlock
the energetic constitution of the Void. Contemplate on the following:

"Qi = geometrized energy-patterns coded into and in-forming the
etheric-physical field, the astral-etheric field, the astral and
mental fields etc. "Qi" is the generic Chinese term, used here in
preference of others owing to its familiarity even in the West
corresponding roughly to what has otherwise been known as vril,
orgone, wakkan, od or odic force, ch'i, prana, azoth, subtle energy
and magnetic fluid; depending on the given plane, state or density in
which the qi occurs, it may take on various forms and serve differing
functions according to ideotypal, psychic, psycho-emotional or vital
requirements. It is not the same as the ether but encodes
infrastructure patterns of ether, which, according to
"angle-of-propagation" and overall waveform of the latter tend to
align, organize and preferentially orient the geometric sub-components
of enfolded qi-states (thus exfolding them with reference to the
guiding ideotype of the cognitive grid network imparting etheric
"angle" in the first place). Through the resultant guideline of
perspectival coordinates they "migrate" to strategic ontological
"positions" undergirding stress-tensor states of subatomic field
patterns and magnetogravitic, phase-space topologies. Such qi
influstructures are themselves without "size" or "physical' position
(i.e. with respect to atomic coordinates to the limits of
indeterminacy) though their ontological "angles" and "edges" orient
relative size and respective position of point-fields by gauge
adjustments according to compensatory symme tries required of the -
given - perspective. The Qi Patterns themselves are reiterative and
holonomic. Therefore while they may "appear" to reside strictly
"within" the coordinative limits of the overall field geometry (as
with E8 x E8 gauge group) either when evidentially reconstituted or
occultly "perceived", they are arbitrarily "expansive" to an
indeterminate degree and range beyond those apparent
micro-boundaries."

Ned i bach , cinquirer
teithant i thiw hin:

Let me talk from actual experience. The head of humans have this
vortex like gateway (called the chakras in the east) that is
seen to be connected to higher space. This higher space with
memory unit may be the source of the so called past lives or soul
of a human being. Skilled seers can trace the pathway and directly
deal in the plane (or dimension?) of the soul. Others call it
Cyberspace. I call it Hyperspace for popularity sake. But I think
I'd better use other term to distinguish from the above. Maybe
Superspace? Hmm..

Are you really this stupid?

--
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Let me continue the above comment that directly address your
points... see below

(jjs) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(cinquirer) wrote:

[...] Suppose Hyperspace/Intelligence have a hand in the
design of our biological body by designing all the elements that made
our existence possible. Then the creation of our brain is the
handwork of Hyperspace/Intelligence.

Your assertions...

So even though our
consciousness is based on the brain. It can be extended to
the Hyperspace. [...]

... do not support your conclusion. A classic Moronic bit of logic.

That's exactly why the so called Bioetheric field or Qi is needed.
Because it acts as the interface between the biological body and
Hyperspace (or whatever the term will be). Gets?? Without the
bioetheric field. One would surely observe it is moronic to connect
brain and hyperspace without any mechanism of interface. So the
conjugate physical or bioetheric body exact function is serving as
that interface! See the following:

http://www.rickrichards.com/chakras/Chakras1a.html

the so called "chakras" are gateway from our biological body to
Hyperspace (such as Superspace, etc.). Get the logic?? It's not
moronic logic.

c

(cinquirer) wrote in message . com...

That's exactly why the so called Bioetheric field or Qi is needed.
Because it acts as the interface between the biological body and
Hyperspace (or whatever the term will be). Gets?? Without the
bioetheric field. One would surely observe it is moronic to connect
brain and hyperspace without any mechanism of interface. So the
conjugate physical or bioetheric body exact function is serving as
that interface! See the following:

snip advertisement

the so called "chakras" are gateway from our biological body to
Hyperspace (such as Superspace, etc.). Get the logic?? It's not
moronic logic.

c

[EL]
If you are sleeping in your bed, you occupy space.
If you get up at night and walk to the toilet to ****, you occupy all
the space between bed and the toilet over the time in which you move.

That space is not the space occupied by your body at any moment but at
all moments and that is why we call it a hyperspace.

You do not need "chakras" as a gateway between your biological-body to
that Hyperspace because if it does then you should **** all the way
from bed to the toilet through your chakras and your home shall be
very smelly.

Got it moron?

EL

(EL) wrote in message . com...

[EL]
If you are sleeping in your bed, you occupy space.
If you get up at night and walk to the toilet to ****, you occupy all
the space between bed and the toilet over the time in which you move.

That space is not the space occupied by your body at any moment but at
all moments and that is why we call it a hyperspace.

You do not need "chakras" as a gateway between your biological-body to
that Hyperspace because if it does then you should **** all the way
from bed to the toilet through your chakras and your home shall be
very smelly.

Got it moron?

EL

Hey moron. By gateway is meant the chakras are some kind of step
down transformers that translate information from higher reality
to the one the biological system such as brain can use (through
the bioetheric body or conjugate physical).
See http://www.tillerfoundation.com/science.html

c

On 21 Nov 2003 16:56:38 -0800, (cinquirer) wrote:

(The Void) wrote in message . com...
[cinquirer]
Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?

[The Void]
Clearly only the redirections of amicable vectors upon infra-etheric
structure forms through tunneling. Non-violent bifurcations are
implicit around the inter-externals of non-harmonious operators.
Socio-kinetic spinors infer the pandemonium moments between frivolous
mesons. The surreptitious parity into lugubrious neutrinos are
reconnecting for the pseudo-rarefication of insurgence in the state
vectors. These non-furious algorithms take on forms of resurgence and
re-formation, procuring into the super-helical structures of
stratification. The remaining ambient circulation entertains the
habituality fields of hyperspatial waves. Do personality pseudoscalars
detour regarding the non-polar circularity of circles in the agitated
spherical harmonics of pusillanimous interference, internalizing the
external internal pseudo-bicameral data structure across eminent
domains of hegemonious Green's functions?

Funny joke Void. But let's get serious. The study of Qi can unlock
the energetic constitution of the Void.

And the scientific method can really unlock the truth and free us all
from the gibberish you have been spouting all along.

"cinquirer" wrote in message
om...
(jjs) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(cinquirer) wrote:

[...] Suppose Hyperspace/Intelligence have a hand in the
design of our biological body by designing all the elements that made
our existence possible. Then the creation of our brain is the
handwork of Hyperspace/Intelligence.

Your assertions...

So even though our
consciousness is based on the brain. It can be extended to
the Hyperspace. [...]

... do not support your conclusion. A classic Moronic bit of logic.

Let me talk from actual experience. The head of humans have this
vortex like gateway (called the chakras in the east) that is
seen to be connected to higher space. This higher space with
memory unit may be the source of the so called past lives or soul
of a human being. Skilled seers can trace the pathway and directly
deal in the plane (or dimension?) of the soul. Others call it
Cyberspace. I call it Hyperspace for popularity sake. But I think
I'd better use other term to distinguish from the above. Maybe
Superspace? Hmm..

So is hypersex anything like cybersex?

Igor wrote in message . ..
On 21 Nov 2003 16:56:38 -0800, (cinquirer) wrote:

(The Void) wrote in message . com...
[cinquirer]
Without matter, without atoms, without particles. What is there?

[The Void]
Clearly only the redirections of amicable vectors upon infra-etheric
structure forms through tunneling. Non-violent bifurcations are
implicit around the inter-externals of non-harmonious operators.
Socio-kinetic spinors infer the pandemonium moments between frivolous
mesons. The surreptitious parity into lugubrious neutrinos are
reconnecting for the pseudo-rarefication of insurgence in the state
vectors. These non-furious algorithms take on forms of resurgence and
re-formation, procuring into the super-helical structures of
stratification. The remaining ambient circulation entertains the
habituality fields of hyperspatial waves. Do personality pseudoscalars
detour regarding the non-polar circularity of circles in the agitated
spherical harmonics of pusillanimous interference, internalizing the
external internal pseudo-bicameral data structure across eminent
domains of hegemonious Green's functions?

Funny joke Void. But let's get serious. The study of Qi can unlock
the energetic constitution of the Void.

And the scientific method can really unlock the truth and free us all
from the gibberish you have been spouting all along.

If you limit scientific method to the study of photons and electrons
and ignore other forces that doesn't use electromagnetic
wave which our instrument and normal senses can't pick up yet such
as qi. Then you are no different than witches in the 15th century who
deal with potions instead of photons.

c

cinquirer wrote:
wave which our instrument and normal senses can't pick up yet such
as qi. Then you are no different than witches in the 15th century who
deal with potions instead of photons.

How do you know qi (chi) exists if you have no way of detecting it? What
phenomena of nature require qi? What are the physical and measurable
characteristics of qi. How does qi relate to other forces, fields and
particles? Can qi be used to produce quantitative testable predictions
about the observable universe? If qi is essential, why do theories which
do not have it, do as well as they do?

Bob Kolker