Galileans have perpetrated a massive fraud upon mankind!

Using trigonometric formulas, I calculate the distance from Los
Angeles (34N, 118W) to New York City (41N, 74W) to be 3916 km or 2433
miles.

But Galileans make the ridiculous claim that the distance between two
cities depends on the route that you take!

They say that you can NEVER drive from LA to NYC in 2433 miles. The
most direct driving route, they claim, is about 2790 miles. And they
claim that the distance from LA to NYC grows or shrinks depending on
the route you take. For instance, Galileans say that if you drive from
LA to Jacksonville, and from Jacksonville to NYC, the distance from LA
to NYC expands to 3300 miles.

THIS IS ABSOLUTE ABSURDITY. I SAY THAT THE DISTANCE FROM LA TO NYC IS
ABSOLUTELY CONSTANT AT 2433 MILES, AND THIS DISTANCE DOES NOT GROW OR
SHRINK JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE A TURN SOMEWHERE IN YOUR TRAVELS.

Galileans make excuses, saying that there is a difference between
"driving distance" versus "great circle distance." Their lame
arguments have never made sense to me.

I've challenged Galileans on this. Can they show me a peer-reviewed
article in a major scientific journal demonstrating that the distance
between two cities changes depending on how you drive from one to the
other? Do they actually expect me to believe that the crust of the
Earth expands and contracts just because of the way that I drive, and
that different people simultaneously see the crust of the Earth
expanding and contracting differently?

Galileans always evade the issue. No Galilean has EVER shown me a
peer-reviewed scientific article measuring simultaneous expansion and
contraction of the Earth's crust as a result of different people's
driving on the highway.

They haven't shown me any such measurements to me because there aren't
any. It doesn't happen. It can't happen. It's an intrinsically stupid
concept.

I OFFER A $1000 REWARD TO ANYBODY WHO CAN CONVINCE ME THAT THE
DISTANCE BETWEEN LA AND NYC CHANGES DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DRIVE BETWEEN
THE TWO CITIES.

Minor Crank

Dear Minor Crank:

"Minor Crank" wrote in message
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Galileans have perpetrated a massive fraud upon mankind!

Night of the Living Dead! You've become a zombie too! Aarrrrgggh!

Happy Hallowe'en.

David A. Smith

(Minor Crank) wrote in message . com...
Galileans have perpetrated a massive fraud upon mankind!

Using trigonometric formulas, I calculate the distance from Los
Angeles (34N, 118W) to New York City (41N, 74W) to be 3916 km or 2433
miles.

But Galileans make the ridiculous claim that the distance between two
cities depends on the route that you take!

They say that you can NEVER drive from LA to NYC in 2433 miles. The
most direct driving route, they claim, is about 2790 miles. And they
claim that the distance from LA to NYC grows or shrinks depending on
the route you take. For instance, Galileans say that if you drive from
LA to Jacksonville, and from Jacksonville to NYC, the distance from LA
to NYC expands to 3300 miles.

THIS IS ABSOLUTE ABSURDITY. I SAY THAT THE DISTANCE FROM LA TO NYC IS
ABSOLUTELY CONSTANT AT 2433 MILES, AND THIS DISTANCE DOES NOT GROW OR
SHRINK JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE A TURN SOMEWHERE IN YOUR TRAVELS.

Galileans make excuses, saying that there is a difference between
"driving distance" versus "great circle distance." Their lame
arguments have never made sense to me.

I've challenged Galileans on this. Can they show me a peer-reviewed
article in a major scientific journal demonstrating that the distance
between two cities changes depending on how you drive from one to the
other? Do they actually expect me to believe that the crust of the
Earth expands and contracts just because of the way that I drive, and
that different people simultaneously see the crust of the Earth
expanding and contracting differently?

Galileans always evade the issue. No Galilean has EVER shown me a
peer-reviewed scientific article measuring simultaneous expansion and
contraction of the Earth's crust as a result of different people's
driving on the highway.

They haven't shown me any such measurements to me because there aren't
any. It doesn't happen. It can't happen. It's an intrinsically stupid
concept.

I OFFER A $1000 REWARD TO ANYBODY WHO CAN CONVINCE ME THAT THE
DISTANCE BETWEEN LA AND NYC CHANGES DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DRIVE BETWEEN
THE TWO CITIES.

Minor Crank

xxein: Why should you care? You are brain dead.

"Minor Crank" wrote in message om...
Galileans have perpetrated a massive fraud upon mankind!

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I OFFER A $1000 REWARD TO ANYBODY WHO CAN
CONVINCE ME THAT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN LA AND
NYC CHANGES DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DRIVE
BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES.

Minor Crank

Excellent!
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...Galileans.html
Your second entry :-)

Dirk Vdm

"Minor Crank" wrote in message
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Galileans have perpetrated a massive fraud upon mankind!


I OFFER A $1000 REWARD TO ANYBODY WHO CAN CONVINCE ME THAT THE
DISTANCE BETWEEN LA AND NYC CHANGES DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DRIVE BETWEEN
THE TWO CITIES.

Minor Crank

thats too easy... if you turn left and go the long way around its more like
36027km... pay up.

(Minor Crank) wrote in message . com...

I OFFER A $1000 REWARD TO ANYBODY WHO CAN CONVINCE ME THAT THE
DISTANCE BETWEEN LA AND NYC CHANGES DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DRIVE BETWEEN
THE TWO CITIES.

If anyone can convince you I bet it is Bilge. He is a very persuasive
relativist and a cautious thinker. He is so logical, in fact, that he
denies that the laws of physics imply the Lorentz transformation. See

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...ing.google.com

Eugene Shubert

Perfectly Innocent wrote:
[...]
If anyone can convince you I bet it is Bilge. He is a very persuasive
relativist and a cautious thinker. He is so logical, in fact, that he
denies that the laws of physics imply the Lorentz transformation. See

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...ing.google.com

The best part being this post from Bilge, which pointed out very good
points :

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...al.net&rnum=20

You had nothing else to answer than "but... but someone else said one
time that I wasn't wrong about something...".

Perfectly Innocent:
(Minor Crank) wrote in message
.com...

I OFFER A $1000 REWARD TO ANYBODY WHO CAN CONVINCE ME THAT THE
DISTANCE BETWEEN LA AND NYC CHANGES DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DRIVE BETWEEN
THE TWO CITIES.

If anyone can convince you I bet it is Bilge.

Heck, after seeing this post, I figured you'd ask minor crank
for help in rephrasing your argument to add some logical structure
to your "model".


He is a very persuasive
relativist and a cautious thinker. He is so logical, in fact, that he
denies that the laws of physics imply the Lorentz transformation. See

I see that you've studied the technique of the creationists well.
You can't make a valid point, so you misconstrue the statements made
against your argument. When that fails, you create your own argument
using text in which those statements are taken out of context and
improperly attributed as well and post it in a forum you control and
only reference your argument in any public forum. When that fails,
you start posting in threads that have nothing to do with what
you are posting, just to get a word in. Do they teach this tactic in
evangelism school? Why is it that you have so much difficulty responding
to any actual objection and need to re-invent the objection so that
it suits your argument?

Minor Crank:
Galileans have perpetrated a massive fraud upon mankind!

You mean... There's NO alcohol in gallo wine? Are you sure
that isn't spelled "galloleans"?


Using trigonometric formulas, I calculate the distance from Los
Angeles (34N, 118W) to New York City (41N, 74W) to be 3916 km or 2433
miles.

But Galileans make the ridiculous claim that the distance between two
cities depends on the route that you take!

I'd say that's astounding, except that they probably drink their
own stuff when driving those routes.


They say that you can NEVER drive from LA to NYC in 2433 miles. The
most direct driving route, they claim, is about 2790 miles. And they
claim that the distance from LA to NYC grows or shrinks depending on
the route you take. For instance, Galileans say that if you drive from
LA to Jacksonville, and from Jacksonville to NYC, the distance from LA
to NYC expands to 3300 miles.

THIS IS ABSOLUTE ABSURDITY.

That's probably because you've never tasted gallo wine. The
galloleans are ruthless in extracting statements.

[...]

I OFFER A $1000 REWARD TO ANYBODY WHO CAN CONVINCE ME THAT THE
DISTANCE BETWEEN LA AND NYC CHANGES DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DRIVE BETWEEN
THE TWO CITIES.

You're probably a marked man. Don't be surprised if someone shows
up at your door holding a funnel and standing beside a barrel with
the words "Vin Rose" written on it. Ask to see the wafers before
opening the door.

"Minor Crank" wrote in message
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This argument is obviously a joke, it's far too clear, concise, and too the
point to be a real argument from one of the crazies. You'd need to make it
about 50 times as long, and have a link to your website listing the same
thing, but in really big text, for anyone to take you seriously!

- Jeremy