Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
[snip]


It would *not* have been a meme from me, indeed ;-)


(I don't want to be *too* contrite in any one post)


I think I'll limit my posts since I've lately been retracting and
correcting most of them.


Making mistakes can be a bit confusing for those you
are trying to help, but for yourself (and for them) it is
a good way to learn (if you don't mind being corrected
of course).

In truth, I've had all this in the past...but I'm one of those physics
majors that ended up on a non-physics track. Use it or lose it. I
lost it. At least I misplaced it and am trying to dig it out from all
the junk that's accumulated in my mental attic.


I guess one has to find a balance between:
"making mistakes + confuse audience + learn"
and
"making no mistakes + help audience + stagnate".

I at least like to acknowledge I've made a mistake, especially when
done while trying to help the audience. And surprisingly I've suffered
nary a whip or a scorn.

[snip]

"stmx3" wrote in message ...
Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
[snip]


It would *not* have been a meme from me, indeed ;-)


(I don't want to be *too* contrite in any one post)


I think I'll limit my posts since I've lately been retracting and
correcting most of them.


Making mistakes can be a bit confusing for those you
are trying to help, but for yourself (and for them) it is
a good way to learn (if you don't mind being corrected
of course).

In truth, I've had all this in the past...but I'm one of those physics
majors that ended up on a non-physics track. Use it or lose it. I
lost it. At least I misplaced it and am trying to dig it out from all
the junk that's accumulated in my mental attic.

Sounds remotely familiar :-)
I always considered relocating the dusty attic stuff to the
living room table as a very exciting way of really learning:
the old treasure, no pressure, pure pleasure.



I guess one has to find a balance between:
"making mistakes + confuse audience + learn"
and
"making no mistakes + help audience + stagnate".

I at least like to acknowledge I've made a mistake, especially when
done while trying to help the audience. And surprisingly I've suffered
nary a whip or a scorn.

Please don't go away but continue posting.
You make me go to my Webster and learn new words :-)

Dirk Vdm

Jeff Krimmel wrote:

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:50:47 -0600, Richard wrote:

[...]

OTOH it has yet to be proved that it doesn't
contradict the empirical facts, facts which simply haven't been obtained
yet.

[...]

It has yet to to be proved that it doesn't contradict empirical facts that
haven't been obtained yet?

What?

Simply put, all of the experiments cited are Earth based. Will the same
results be obtained external to the Solar system? Will a muon decay rate
be the same for an observer who has no idea what his or the muon's
acceleration histories are? How will you determine which clock is
ticking slower? SR is silly nonsense.

Richard Perry



Jeff

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Jeff Krimmel wrote:

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:50:47 -0600, Richard wrote:

[...]

OTOH it has yet to be proved that it doesn't
contradict the empirical facts, facts which simply haven't been obtained
yet.

[...]

It has yet to to be proved that it doesn't contradict empirical facts that
haven't been obtained yet?

What?

Simply put, all of the experiments cited are Earth based. Will the same
results be obtained external to the Solar system? Will a muon decay rate
be the same for an observer who has no idea what his or the muon's
acceleration histories are? How will you determine which clock is
ticking slower? SR is silly nonsense.

And all the experiments are done by people. Will the same
results be obtained by dogs, cats and Richards Perry?

Simply put, brilliant reasoning.
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...SimplyPut.html

Dirk Vdm

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 13:53:39 -0600, Richard wrote:



Jeff Krimmel wrote:

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:50:47 -0600, Richard wrote:

[...]

OTOH it has yet to be proved that it doesn't contradict the empirical
facts, facts which simply haven't been obtained yet.

[...]

It has yet to to be proved that it doesn't contradict empirical facts
that haven't been obtained yet?

What?

Simply put, all of the experiments cited are Earth based. Will the same
results be obtained external to the Solar system? Will a muon decay rate
be the same for an observer who has no idea what his or the muon's
acceleration histories are? How will you determine which clock is ticking
slower? SR is silly nonsense.

You have no idea what the term "scientific method" means, do you?

Oh well.

Jeff

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Dirk Van de moortel wrote:

"Richard" wrote in message ...


Jeff Krimmel wrote:

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:50:47 -0600, Richard wrote:

[...]

OTOH it has yet to be proved that it doesn't
contradict the empirical facts, facts which simply haven't been obtained
yet.

[...]

It has yet to to be proved that it doesn't contradict empirical facts that
haven't been obtained yet?

What?

Simply put, all of the experiments cited are Earth based. Will the same
results be obtained external to the Solar system? Will a muon decay rate
be the same for an observer who has no idea what his or the muon's
acceleration histories are? How will you determine which clock is
ticking slower? SR is silly nonsense.

And all the experiments are done by people. Will the same
results be obtained by dogs, cats and Richards Perry?

Well of course not, everyone knows that dog years and cat years are
different than human years

Richard Perry


Simply put, brilliant reasoning.
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/di...SimplyPut.html

Dirk Vdm

Richard wrote:

Well of course not, everyone knows that dog years and cat years are
different than human years


My dog and I made almost 14 trips around the Sun together.
http://www.edu-observatory.org/wormley/Willow.84.97

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message ...

Richard wrote:

Well of course not, everyone knows that dog years and cat years are
different than human years


My dog and I made almost 14 trips around the Sun together.
http://www.edu-observatory.org/wormley/Willow.84.97

Very touching. Thanks for sharing.

Dirk Vdm