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Old October 27th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
Kyle Taylor
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http://www.active-stream.com/Story/darkmatter.shtml

I found the above site while searching for "dark matter" in
the net. It was written by a biophysicist and quite interesting
especially in light of the fact that dark matter can interpenetrate
physical objects like some kind of "subtle bodies". How does it
differ to the "subtle bodies" mentioned for centuries by occultists,
mystics, sensitives, etc. Could "subtle bodies" be composed of
some structure that is similar to dark matter or even be related to
it?? The above link is sure interesting and food for thought. We
must be open minded to all possibilities even if it sounds
unconvensional. Comments welcome.

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Old October 27th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
Brian Gaff
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One thing that is apparent by reading this group is that there is a certain
kind of unconscious snobbery from the factions who know the 'maths' and thus
assume they can explain everything.

However, often it is the conceptual recognition of something that is
important. Its rather like explaining colour to a person blind from birth
in that here we have clues that something exists that nobody knows how to
describe so it can be understood. OK, so you can devise many theories that
allow for what is known, and still allow for the mysterious dark matter.

It appears that some here are in effect saying that the dark matter is the
detectable part of matter that is in fact also in a different phase, and
could in fact be forming other universes as well as the one we 'see'.

This would suggest that gravity can be shared between universes, and this,
I'd have thought would not be right, as it would mean that large events
like black holes , etc, would affect the gravity in our little phase, and
yet be invisible as a source. Has anyone noticed anything like this going
on?

Brian

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Old October 27th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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Kyle Taylor wrote:
mystics, sensitives, etc. Could "subtle bodies" be composed of
some structure that is similar to dark matter or even be related to
it?? The above link is sure interesting and food for thought. We
must be open minded to all possibilities even if it sounds
unconvensional. Comments welcome.


Before you can answer questions or "questions" like that you have to
know what you are talking about. Dark Matter as postualted by the
cosmologists interacts gravitationally with ordinary matter and light.
In fact, dark matter was postulated to account for certain anomalous
behaviour of visible matter.

Now what does this have to do with mysterious interpenetrating bodies?
What -physcial properties- do you have in mind. Can effects be
-measured-? Or are you just regurgitating woo woo horse ****?

Bob Kolker

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Old October 27th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
Sam Wormley
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Kyle Taylor wrote:

http://www.active-stream.com/Story/darkmatter.shtml

I found the above site while searching for "dark matter" in
the net. It was written by a biophysicist and quite interesting
especially in light of the fact that dark matter can interpenetrate
physical objects like some kind of "subtle bodies". How does it
differ to the "subtle bodies" mentioned for centuries by occultists,
mystics, sensitives, etc. Could "subtle bodies" be composed of
some structure that is similar to dark matter or even be related to
it?? The above link is sure interesting and food for thought. We
must be open minded to all possibilities even if it sounds
unconvensional. Comments welcome.


Dark Matter Background
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html#DM
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101matter.html
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Old October 27th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
Kyle Taylor
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\(formerly\)" dlzc1.cox@net wrote in message news:rN9nb.119401$gv5.88774@fed1read05...

This would suggest that gravity can be shared between universes, and

this,
I'd have thought would not be right, as it would mean that large events
like black holes , etc, would affect the gravity in our little phase,

and
yet be invisible as a source. Has anyone noticed anything like this going
on?


The other Universes then have mass distributed in very strange ways. And
if energy from their Universe affects this one, we should be able to see it
encroaching in this one. So far we only have extra curvature on spiral
galaxies.

David A. Smith


This reminds me of the Brane theory I once read. What's your or others
thought of it.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._010413-3.html
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Old October 27th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
Kyle Taylor
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Oh, here's the first page about the Brane theory (the above is the third).

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._010413-1.html



\(formerly\)" dlzc1.cox@net wrote in message news:rN9nb.119401$gv5.88774@fed1read05...
Dear Brian Gaff:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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One thing that is apparent by reading this group is that there is a

certain
kind of unconscious snobbery from the factions who know the 'maths' and

thus
assume they can explain everything.


It is not unconscious. It is intentional. The assumption is that if you
are going to state something as fact, that it agrees with observation. A
lot of people have devoted their *lives* to obtaining a grasp of facts, and
viable theories that describe those facts.

However, often it is the conceptual recognition of something that is
important. Its rather like explaining colour to a person blind from

birth
in that here we have clues that something exists that nobody knows how to
describe so it can be understood. OK, so you can devise many theories

that
allow for what is known, and still allow for the mysterious dark matter.


I personally don't prefer Dark Matter, since its addition to the Universe
requires the futher inclusion of Dark Energy. It think of it as a stopgap
way of stretching General Relativity across the Universe.

It appears that some here are in effect saying that the dark matter is

the
detectable part of matter that is in fact also in a different phase, and
could in fact be forming other universes as well as the one we 'see'.


No.

This would suggest that gravity can be shared between universes, and

this,
I'd have thought would not be right, as it would mean that large events
like black holes , etc, would affect the gravity in our little phase,

and
yet be invisible as a source. Has anyone noticed anything like this going
on?


The other Universes then have mass distributed in very strange ways. And
if energy from their Universe affects this one, we should be able to see it
encroaching in this one. So far we only have extra curvature on spiral
galaxies.

David A. Smith

 




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