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greywolf42 wrote:
The speed of gravity could indeed be greater (different) than the speed of light. Einstein assumed that the speed of gravity was equal to the speed of light, when he developed his General Relativity. However, the only direct measurements of the speed of gravity are the perihelion advances of orbits. Mercury in this solar system, and a few stars. Consider the weak field limit where SR is a good approximation. Very general considerations preclude signals (and that would include gravitational effects) being sent faster than light. Consider sending information from P to Q FTL at some speed U in some frame S. Chose coordinates so both events occur on the x axis and let their time and distance representations be delta t and delta x respectfully. Consider another reference frame S' moving at velocity v so we have from the Lorentz transformation: delta t' = lambda (delta t - v delta x/c2) = lambda delta t (1 - Uv/c2). Choose v such that c2/U v c then delta t' would be less than 0 implying in that frame the signal left before it arrived. This violates causality so FTL signaling is not possible. Also the assumption that gravity travels at the speed of light is not necessary to justify general relativity (GR). The basic ideas of GR are as follows: 1. The principle of general invariance which asserts that the laws of nature should be put in a form that is the same in all coordinate systems. When put in this form it is assumed that natures laws obtain their most elegant and transparent form. The specific physical assumption made is that you are able to determine the nature of the terms in the equations when put in such a form. 2. Coordinate systems can be found such that locally any point in space time behaves for all practical purposes like an inertial frame ie by suitable choice of coordinates gravitation can in any very small region and for a very small instant of time be made as small as we like so that it can be considered inertial. This is the basically Einstein's equivalence principle. In such a small regions Special Relativity (SR) applies - but it may not apply in other coordinate systems so that the speed of light is not constant as in SR. However it would still not be possible to send information faster than whatever that speed is - if you could then you could go to the locally inertial coordinate system and send signals faster than light - in violation of the argument above. 2. Nature has no prior geometry. The physical consequence is that something called the metric is then a dynamical variable. Once this assumption is made general considerations on the most reasonable lagrangian lead immediately to Einstein's Field Equations (EFE) which is the crux of GR. As you can see no assumption was made about the speed of gravity; but quite general consideration preclude gravity propagating faster than light. Also an analysis of the weak field limit of the EFE's show gravitational waves and other effects can not propagate FTL. In fact it predicts gravitational waves propagate at the speed of light. Thanks Bill |
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