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Old August 26th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.sci.physics
Jeremy
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What about Quark-Gluon plasma? Does this not contain free quarks?

"Kyle Taylor" wrote in message
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Hi,

Can free quarks exist? Meaning a stand alone quark that is separated
from the 3 quarks that make up protons or neutrons?

Let's say free quarks can exist and some float in the atmosphere.
What theoretically would happen if you collide with them or
breath them?

Is there an instrument that can detect a free quark? Or how do you
build an instrument to detect the existence of free quark in
the atmosphere?

Thanks

Kyle



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Old August 26th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.sci.physics
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"Jeremy" writes:

What about Quark-Gluon plasma? Does this not contain free quarks?


Depends on what you mean by ``free.'' They are ``free'' to wander
about through the volume of the quark-gluon plasma (``quagma'')
rather than spending most of their time in ``nucleon'' states
that only occassionally swap ``valance'' quarks; however,
they are _not_ free to leave the interior of the ``quagma.''


-- Gordon D. Pusch

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Old August 27th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.sci.physics
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Y.Porat:
(Gordon D. Pusch) wrote in message
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"Jeremy" writes:

What about Quark-Gluon plasma? Does this not contain free quarks?


Depends on what you mean by ``free.'' They are ``free'' to wander
about through the volume of the quark-gluon plasma (``quagma'')
rather than spending most of their time in ``nucleon'' states
that only occassionally swap ``valance'' quarks; however,
they are _not_ free to leave the interior of the ``quagma.''


-- Gordon D. Pusch

perl -e '$_ = \n"; s/NO\.//; s/SPAM\.//; print;'

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so may be you can tell us
where can we find experimentaly a 'quark gluon plasma'
in which you can see that there are quarks there
and in addition there are 'gluons' there??


Experiments are being constructed expressly for that purpose at
this very moment. See: http://alice.web.cern.ch/Alice/html/intro/,
for example or check to see what experiments are underway at
jefferson lab.



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Old August 27th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.sci.physics
Y.Porat
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(Bilge) wrote in message ...
Y.Porat:
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"Jeremy" writes:

What about Quark-Gluon plasma? Does this not contain free quarks?

Depends on what you mean by ``free.'' They are ``free'' to wander
about through the volume of the quark-gluon plasma (``quagma'')
rather than spending most of their time in ``nucleon'' states
that only occassionally swap ``valance'' quarks; however,
they are _not_ free to leave the interior of the ``quagma.''


-- Gordon D. Pusch

perl -e '$_ = \n"; s/NO\.//; s/SPAM\.//; print;'

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so may be you can tell us
where can we find experimentaly a 'quark gluon plasma'
in which you can see that there are quarks there
and in addition there are 'gluons' there??


Experiments are being constructed expressly for that purpose at
this very moment. See:
http://alice.web.cern.ch/Alice/html/intro/,
for example or check to see what experiments are underway at
jefferson lab.

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thank you Bilge for that information (no cynisism)

anyway
do you want a gues of mine about the expected results?

(i call it a guess but actually it it a bit more than just a guess)

so here it is:
they are waisting their precious time and huge money!

even if they fing quarks or any invited 'gluon'
it has nothing to do with our everyday nucleids.
by artificial invited experiments, you can get nearly
anything you invite.

imho ,the only *convincing experiment* can be done
if you get it directly from the nucleid (Proton or neutron)
sort of (methaphorically) if you squash a lemon-
you get out of it -lemon grains- just as 'primitive' as that.
(even with a low probability)
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all the best
Y.Porat
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Old August 28th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.sci.physics
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Y.Porat:

anyway
do you want a gues of mine about the expected results?


Not really.


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Old August 29th 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.sci.physics
Y.Porat
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"Mark Palenik" wrote in message ...
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Y.Porat:

anyway
do you want a gues of mine about the expected results?

Not really.

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you dont want my prediction,

actually you are afraied of my prediction and it is obvious why!!
anyway, wether you want it or not - it is already in my previous
thred
*and it is recorded*!


We don't want you're prediction because it is annoying and irrelevant.
Sometimes it's just nice to have a little kook-free quiet time.

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1 who on earth nominated you as the 'kook' degree nominator?

2 what do you think is the perpous of such a publik ng
to hear only *what you *believe in* and nothing else?

3 did it ever occured to you that there is the slightest
probability that your believes or theories are wrong?

4 did it ever occured to you that some of the existing theories
are enourmous waist of time and resourses?
no not a chance that you ever thought about it.
you are a poor parrot.and not tolrable to anything but your 'clan'
one prediction for you:
(imho) you with such a state of mind can never be a significant scintist.

all the best
Y.Porat
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Old September 2nd 03 posted to alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.sci.physics
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"Mark Palenik" wrote in message

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"Y.Porat" wrote in message
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Y.Porat:

anyway
do you want a gues of mine about the expected results?

Not really.
---------------------
you dont want my prediction,

actually you are afraied of my prediction and it is obvious why!!
anyway, wether you want it or not - it is already in my previous
thred
*and it is recorded*!


We don't want you're prediction because it is annoying and irrelevant.
Sometimes it's just nice to have a little kook-free quiet time.

----------------------
1 who on earth nominated you as the 'kook' degree nominator?

2 what do you think is the perpous of such a publik ng
to hear only *what you *believe in* and nothing else?

3 did it ever occured to you that there is the slightest
probability that your believes or theories are wrong?

4 did it ever occured to you that some of the existing theories
are enourmous waist of time and resourses?
no not a chance that you ever thought about it.
you are a poor parrot.and not tolrable to anything but your 'clan'
one prediction for you:
(imho) you with such a state of mind can never be a significant

scintist.

all the best
Y.Porat
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sorry for that, mr porat, but i also can not agree with that.
science is made, because people want to know what they are
made of.
if you call the search for qgp a waste of time, then you would
probably also have called the search for atoms, protons and
neutrons for a waste of time, but if we dont understand the parts
of matter, we wont understand the matter.
never the less, there are clear hints for qgp, which is almost
discovered by the lower sqrt(s)-energys at rhic. there are no
meanful doubts about the existing of an qgp-state. lhc and
especial alice is more about learning about the behaviour of
qgp. and this is done, because people want to know and not
because you can sell it an make lots of money or sth like that.



 




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