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The writer of the above post has, 1) made statements of fact, especially
about QM. and 2) made math statements and math arguments. I am not sufficiently knowledgeable in math to evaluate those. (understatement) Has the writer made any misstatements of fact? |
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Quite significant is the fact that the original "big bang" fireball
from which our Universe is believed to have begun has been observed. We know its location and we know our velocity with respect to it. As a result we have actually observed our "absolute velocity" through space. WOW! 1. So where is the location of the original "big bang" fireball? 2. So what is our velocity with respect to the original "big bang" fireball? 3. So what is our "absolute velociry" through space? 4. So where can I find recognized scientific journals to substantiate the above so that people don't think I am a crazy person?? Marv |
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"Marv Raybin" wrote in message m...
Quite significant is the fact that the original "big bang" fireball from which our Universe is believed to have begun has been observed. We know its location and we know our velocity with respect to it. As a result we have actually observed our "absolute velocity" through space. WOW! 1. So where is the location of the original "big bang" fireball? Everywhere. It's the 2.7 degree "cosmic background" which is seen everywhere in the sky. 2. So what is our velocity with respect to the original "big bang" fireball? 3. So what is our "absolute velociry" through space? About 600 km/sec, much higher than was expected when such measurements were undertaken. 4. So where can I find recognized scientific journals to substantiate the above so that people don't think I am a crazy person?? Under the keywords "doppler" and "cosmic background" or "dipole" and "cosmic background". The cosmic background is not uniform: it has a doppler shift which indicates a state of relative motion. Here are some pretty pictures of the doppler map. http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/l...ology/cbr.html - Randy |
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On 13 Aug 2003 10:57:35 -0700, (Randy Poe) wrote:
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/l...ology/cbr.html Just a silly question I know. Why should any of the initial radiation from the supposed BB end up returning back in our direction? Henri Wilson. See my animations at: http://www.users.bigpond.com/HeWn/index.htm |
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Dear HenriWilson:
"HenriWilson" wrote in message ... On 13 Aug 2003 10:57:35 -0700, (Randy Poe) wrote: http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/l...ology/cbr.html Just a silly question I know. Why should any of the initial radiation from the supposed BB end up returning back in our direction? The CMBR is not from the BB. It was emitted a few hundred thousand years afterwards. And it just got here. Think of salmon swimming upstream, with expansion being the "stream". David A. Smith |
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(formerly)" dlzc1.cox@net wrote in message news:Ive%a.474$Qy4.64@fed1read05... Dear HenriWilson: "HenriWilson" wrote in message ... On 13 Aug 2003 10:57:35 -0700, (Randy Poe) wrote: http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/l...ology/cbr.html Just a silly question I know. Why should any of the initial radiation from the supposed BB end up returning back in our direction? The CMBR is not from the BB. It was emitted a few hundred thousand years afterwards. And it just got here. Think of salmon swimming upstream, with expansion being the "stream". David A. Smith "And it just got here." It just got here? Then how fast did we get here ahead of it and how did it manage to catch up to us? By the way, where is "here?" Brad |
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Dear G. L. Bradford Jr.:
"G. L. Bradford Jr." wrote in message news:38l%a.127203$Oz4.25633@rwcrnsc54... (formerly)" dlzc1.cox@net wrote in message news:Ive%a.474$Qy4.64@fed1read05... .... The CMBR is not from the BB. It was emitted a few hundred thousand years afterwards. And it just got here. Think of salmon swimming upstream, with expansion being the "stream". "And it just got here." It just got here? Yes. Then how fast did we get here ahead of it and how did it manage to catch up to us? We started out ahead of it. And there is of course nothing that says the light didn't go "around" more than once. Some of those galaxies we see arrayed out there could be aged duplicates... even the Milky Way. Not really likely, but possible. By the way, where is "here?" It has changed since I wrote that, but not relatively. Is it important? David A. Smith |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:01:44 -0700, \(formerly\)" dlzc1.cox@net
wrote: Dear HenriWilson: "HenriWilson" wrote in message .. . On 13 Aug 2003 10:57:35 -0700, (Randy Poe) wrote: http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/l...ology/cbr.html Just a silly question I know. Why should any of the initial radiation from the supposed BB end up returning back in our direction? The CMBR is not from the BB. It was emitted a few hundred thousand years afterwards. And it just got here. Think of salmon swimming upstream, with expansion being the "stream". That doesn't explain why it is almost isotropic around US. Why are we so special? Is this another christian plot to hijack physics? David A. Smith Henri Wilson. See my animations at: http://www.users.bigpond.com/HeWn/index.htm |
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Dear HenriWilson:
"HenriWilson" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:01:44 -0700, \(formerly\)" dlzc1.cox@net wrote: .... The CMBR is not from the BB. It was emitted a few hundred thousand years afterwards. And it just got here. Think of salmon swimming upstream, with expansion being the "stream". That doesn't explain why it is almost isotropic around US. Why are we so special? It isn't almost isotropic. It is quite "lumpy". The average is smooth (big surprise). It happens to have about the same "average isotropy" as the galaxies we have mapped. Is this another christian plot to hijack physics? ANOTHER christian plot? I must have missed the first one... Besides it is Satan that confuses with the physical world. Or weren't you ever exposed to Christianity? David A. Smith |
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