Hayek
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Are you so sure that time exists ?

Well, it does not.

How about that for fooling your senses !

And inertial increase (also referred wrongly to as
time dilation) is real, but you can't measure it
locally.

To be understood you have to explain it with some kind
of reasoning or even better with an example as you did
with inertia of this disc. Then one can argue if one does
not like your approach.

As it is now, one gets only puzzled knowing that you
are smart but too mysterious for an average Joe or
Dave (or even Tom, Dick, and Harry :-) and then
whatever you write is lost on everybody, which is like
not writing at all (except killing time, which doesn't
even needs killing if it doesn't exist).

-- Jim

Hayek.

I guess I expected equations.

Silly me.

Ted wrote:
I guess I expected equations.

Silly me.

If one could solve it with equations, it would
have been solved some 100 years ago.

But if you refuse to discuss if the base
mathematical model for our universe should be 4d
(x,y,z,t) or 3d with motion,(x,y,z) with (x,y,z)=
f(t); because you can't see the difference, you
should not be tampering with equations at all.

Einstein thought first, his famous gedanken
experiments, and then cast equations later.

But, you are modern, and can do it the other way
around. Or even better, you do not have to think
at all. This is the reason that if the matter
goes beyond the pavlov-trained rules of
mathematics, you are suddenly clueless.

Silly you, indeed.


Hayek.

Jim Jastrzebski, sculptor and usenet performance artist, wrote:

The famous John Baez's statement [authorized quote,
the dramatic pause in the middle is his]:

"It is always surprising when it happens, but sometimes to learn
more about the world we must stop asking certain questions...

... namely, those based on false assumptions."

Hopefully this lesson with "accelerating expansion" + idiots cosmologists
won't
be lost on future generations, who might
learn by it that one should never stop asking questions
regardless of assumptions (all assumptions are false most
of the time anyway, and when they're not we don't know that
so what John Baez says means: "never ask questions, just
memorize the equations").

Jim Jastrzebski is a liar. Click this link to see for yourself.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...ws.state.mn.us

You can also click on the link on that page to the original
article where Baez wrote those words.


---Tim Shuba---

shuba
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Jim Jastrzebski, sculptor and usenet performance artist, wrote:

The famous John Baez's statement [authorized quote,
the dramatic pause in the middle is his]:

"It is always surprising when it happens, but sometimes to learn
more about the world we must stop asking certain questions...

... namely, those based on false assumptions."


[...]

Jim Jastrzebski is a liar. Click this link to see for yourself.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...ws.state.mn.us

You can also click on the link on that page to the original
article where Baez wrote those words.

Did you mean that Jim quoted John Baez exactly despite
being a liar and a sculptor and usenet performance artist?
Or you wanted to make some other point but you forgot to
specify it?

-- Jim

---Tim Shuba---

Jim Jatrzebski wondered:

Did you mean that Jim quoted John Baez exactly despite
being a liar and a sculptor and usenet performance artist?

I meant to document that Jim is a liar, and I did.

Or you wanted to make some other point but you forgot to
specify it?

Not at all. I didn't forget a thing.


---Tim Shuba---

shuba
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Jim Jatrzebski wondered:

Did you mean that Jim quoted John Baez exactly despite
being a liar and a sculptor and usenet performance artist?

I meant to document that Jim is a liar, and I did.

But since the quote is exactly as John Baez wrote
it in both places (it was cut and pasted) what is
actually the lie?

So far you documented only that you are a liar
and the only unknown is whether you are lying
consciously or you are delusional.


-- Jim

---Tim Shuba---

Jim wrote:

shuba
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Jim Jatrzebski wondered:


[ tim.shuba-84D581.19153718072003%40corp.supernews.com ]

Did you mean that Jim quoted John Baez exactly despite
being a liar and a sculptor and usenet performance artist?

I meant to document that Jim is a liar, and I did.

But since the quote is exactly as John Baez wrote
it in both places (it was cut and pasted) what is
actually the lie?

The part you purposefully cut out, falsely asserting that Baez
means "never ask questions, just memorize the equations". Your
attacks on Baez (and others who have shown your understanding of
energy to be seriously flawed) are spiteful and pathetic.


---Tim Shuba---

shuba
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But since the quote is exactly as John Baez wrote
it in both places (it was cut and pasted) what is
actually the lie?

The part you purposefully cut out, falsely asserting that Baez
means "never ask questions, just memorize the equations". Your
attacks on Baez (and others who have shown your understanding of
energy to be seriously flawed) are spiteful and pathetic.

If I don't quote something it is not "purposefully cut out" as
you suggest but I can't quote whole article every time I quote
something that I consider worth quoting.

In the above case I produced 100% of what John Baez said
that he said in response my previous abbreviation of his quote
(which he apparently considered too abbreviated). Apparently
he considered what I quoted this time to be 100% of what
should be quoted to preserve the thought. So you seem
trying to be more Catholic than the Pope, so to speak.

"Never ask questions, just memorize the equations" is just
a translation to plain English for people who have problems
with understanding complex phrases. Of course you may
argue whether it is a proper translation. You might be right,
and so you could present a better translation.

I don't attack John Baez but I'm trying to make his ideas
known to as wide audience as possible since I think that
those ideas are worth of being known.

If you think that these are attacks it might be due to the
fact that what I consider worth quoting you may consider
silly. But I didn't make those ideas silly. I'm only a
messenger.

-- Jim

Jim wrote:

"Never ask questions, just memorize the equations" is just
a translation to plain English for people who have problems
with understanding complex phrases. Of course you may
argue whether it is a proper translation. You might be right,
and so you could present a better translation.

I did. I gave a link to Baez' exact clarification. Your
"translation" is an obvious, gratuitous distortion of his words
and intention. There was also nothing complex about the phrasing
used in the first place. You apparently just didn't like it
because it highlighted your own failure to grasp the concept of
energy conservation in GR.

You wrote and tried to publish a paper and it was roundly
trashed, ironically even by those referenced in the paper.
Get over it. Quit dwelling on the failures of your past.

I don't attack John Baez but I'm trying to make his ideas
known to as wide audience as possible since I think that
those ideas are worth of being known.

Baez is quite capable of expressing his own ideas. He even
co-authored a FAQ page dedicated to energy conservation in GR,
complete with references. I happen not to be interested in the
rationalizations of Jastrzebski for his spiteful and obnoxious
behavior toward Baez.


---Tim Shuba---