On Jun 25, 1:52*am, "Y.y.Porat" wrote:
On Jun 25, 12:05 am, BURT wrote: Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a Gamma

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you have to ad here that the Gamma factor
is not relevant to photons it i s non * existent there
the photon is an exception limit case !!
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value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new *motion..

Motion is different energy levels.

energy levels is mainly in Atomic *light emission
and since your post in general is not innovative
that point of energy *levels *of Atomic light emission

is the real *interesting point that is actually
not solved to scratch * !!!
anyone who will tell you that is is completely solved
is either an ignorant *parrot or a lier !!

ATB
Y.Porat
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*For the ordinary world Gamma is



quite small for an ordinary speed. Still it is there.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008- Hide quoted text -

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Actually light in the ideal case without gravity is Gamma one.

Mitch Raemsch

On Jun 24, 7:27*pm, john wrote:
On Jun 24, 8:20 pm, nada wrote:

BURT wrote:
Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a Gamma
value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new *motion.

Motion is different energy levels. For the ordinary world Gamma is
quite small for an ordinary speed. Still it is there.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

rama bama gama ding dong ding a ling

Energy levels are like harmonics.

Wrong.

On Jun 24, 2:05*pm, BURT wrote:
Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a Gamma
value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new *motion.

Motion is different energy levels. For the ordinary world Gamma is
quite small for an ordinary speed. Still it is there.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

Incoherent babbling and flat out lying.

On Jun 25, 10:29*am, Paul Cardinale
wrote:
On Jun 24, 2:05*pm, BURT wrote:

Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a Gamma
value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new *motion..

Motion is different energy levels. For the ordinary world Gamma is
quite small for an ordinary speed. Still it is there.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

Incoherent babbling and flat out lying.

So Einstein's Gamma is a math lie?
I don't think so.
Mitch Raemsch

On Jun 24, 4:44*pm, xxein wrote:
On Jun 24, 7:22*pm, "Androcles" wrote:





"xxein" wrote in message

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On Jun 24, 5:05 pm, BURT wrote:

Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a Gamma
value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new motion.

Motion is different energy levels. For the ordinary world Gamma is
quite small for an ordinary speed. Still it is there.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

xxein: *Actually the title header makes more sense than the content.

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If you haven't found out the cretin is a titty twister yet then I can only
pity you more than I do already. *Do you seriously make such comments
as "Snow White (the bird that shacked up with seven short guys)
didn't really die when she ate that apple, she's only asleep!"

The pity of it all is that someone created an alt.physics to get away
from the imbeciles that cross-post all their **** and jerks like you
have to pollute even that.

xxein: *I pity your ignorance. *But I read your comments *(a little).- Hide quoted text -

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The kinetic energy level is Gamma.

On Jun 25, 4:09*am, "Androcles" wrote:
"xxein" wrote in message

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On Jun 24, 7:22 pm, "Androcles" wrote:





"xxein" wrote in message

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On Jun 24, 5:05 pm, BURT wrote:

Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a Gamma
value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new motion.

Motion is different energy levels. For the ordinary world Gamma is
quite small for an ordinary speed. Still it is there.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

xxein: Actually the title header makes more sense than the content.

=====================================

If you haven't found out the cretin is a titty twister yet then I can only
pity you more than I do already. Do you seriously make such comments
as "Snow White (the bird that shacked up with seven short guys)
didn't really die when she ate that apple, she's only asleep!"

The pity of it all is that someone created an alt.physics to get away
from the imbeciles that cross-post all their **** and jerks like you
have to pollute even that.

xxein: *I pity your ignorance. *But I read your comments *(a little).
===========================================

Then you should help me to discover gamma. Let's begin
with the question
Why did Einstein say
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?

from which the ignorant crank derived his nonsense,
then you can pity your own ignorance and tripe one-liner
comments, you petty ****head. I pity your IQ.

--
Androcles, proud to be as British as Baldric.
*http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...agnaCarta.wmv- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh! You need help? You always pipe in with your doctrine and still
need help?

Well, I can help. But you will have to have a willingness to accept
it. I don't think you can.

I have my own views that work cogently with an objective physic and
beyond just a single universe. It doesn't mean that I am right or
correctly describe a physic, it just means that I take more into
consideration. I do quite well, thank you for asking.

Gamma is artefactual/superficially imposed. It certainly means
something 'like' a constant, but it is not. The conditions that
support the notion of gamma are fluid and changing. But so is the
observer. It is a yin-yang of sorts. This fluid relationship that we
call physics is not the same as the actual physic. It provides for a
local physics that appears the same in different local regions until
it becomes a super-global matter like bh's or supernovas.

I all happens in a greater physic that we seem to be unaware of. We
can watch the general behavior of our universe and probe into the
quantum behaviors. But we cannot put it all together. To say we can
or do is a blatant lie and should make a mockery of our otherwise
intelligence.

Of course, we will always try to make a physical connection. It is
our try to understand our present situation and destinity. But there
is much false belief in our way. You can't deny that. But yet you
forget so easily.

Just learn more.

"xxein" wrote in message
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On Jun 25, 4:09 am, "Androcles" wrote:
"xxein" wrote in message

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On Jun 24, 7:22 pm, "Androcles" wrote:





"xxein" wrote in message

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On Jun 24, 5:05 pm, BURT wrote:

Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a Gamma
value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new motion.

Motion is different energy levels. For the ordinary world Gamma is
quite small for an ordinary speed. Still it is there.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

xxein: Actually the title header makes more sense than the content.

=====================================

If you haven't found out the cretin is a titty twister yet then I can
only
pity you more than I do already. Do you seriously make such comments
as "Snow White (the bird that shacked up with seven short guys)
didn't really die when she ate that apple, she's only asleep!"

The pity of it all is that someone created an alt.physics to get away
from the imbeciles that cross-post all their **** and jerks like you
have to pollute even that.

xxein: I pity your ignorance. But I read your comments (a little).
===========================================

Then you should help me to discover gamma. Let's begin
with the question
Why did Einstein say
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?

from which the ignorant crank derived his nonsense,
then you can pity your own ignorance and tripe one-liner
comments, you petty ****head. I pity your IQ.

--
Androcles, proud to be as British as Baldric.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...agnaCarta.wmv- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh! You need help? You always pipe in with your doctrine and still
need help?

Well, I can help. But you will have to have a willingness to accept
it. I don't think you can.

==================================================

You mean be a moslem? Just accept the true faith?
Or be a buddhist? Just accept the true faith?
Or be a christian? Just accept the true faith?
Or be a relativist? Just accept the true faith?

It isn't that you don't think I can, it is you don't think, cretin.

==================================================

I have my own views

===================

That's the ****ing problem, imbecile. Science is not about having views,
opinions, guesses or any other wild imagination, but discovering Nature.
================================================== =

that work cogently with an objective physic and
beyond just a single universe. It doesn't mean that I am right or
correctly describe a physic, it just means that I take more into
consideration. I do quite well, thank you for asking.
================================================== =

You haven't answered my question, have you?
================================================== =


Gamma is artefactual/superficially imposed. It certainly means
something 'like' a constant, but it is not. The conditions that
support the notion of gamma are fluid and changing. But so is the
observer. It is a yin-yang of sorts. This fluid relationship that we
call physics is not the same as the actual physic. It provides for a
local physics that appears the same in different local regions until
it becomes a super-global matter like bh's or supernovas.

================================================== ==

bh? The thing you imagine exists and then try to find?
Why not imagine Santa Claus exists and then find him?
Try searching the North Pole, I've heard he might be there.


You haven't answered my question, have you?

=======================================


I all happens in a greater physic that we seem to be unaware of.
================================================

You sem to be unaware of my question, I'll repeat it.
Why did Einstein say
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?

That's what I want help with, not your idiot pseudo-religious ranting,
you ****ing shaman.

===============================================

We
can watch the general behavior of our universe and probe into the
quantum behaviors. But we cannot put it all together. To say we can
or do is a blatant lie and should make a mockery of our otherwise
intelligence.
==================================================

Of course, we will always try to make a physical connection. It is
our try to understand our present situation and destinity. But there
is much false belief in our way. You can't deny that. But yet you
forget so easily.

Just learn more.
================================================== =
I'm trying to learn more, you daft ****.

I want to know why Einstein said
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?

Just ****ing concentrate, you moron.
--
Androcles, proud to be as British as Baldric.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...MagnaCarta.wmv

On Jun 25, 9:19 pm, BURT wrote:
On Jun 25, 1:52 am, "Y.y.Porat" wrote:



On Jun 25, 12:05 am, BURT wrote: Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a Gamma

-----------------
you have to ad here that the Gamma factor
is not relevant to photons it i s non existent there
the photon is an exception limit case !!
------------

value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new motion.

Motion is different energy levels.

energy levels is mainly in Atomic light emission
and since your post in general is not innovative
that point of energy levels of Atomic light emission

is the real interesting point that is actually
not solved to scratch !!!
anyone who will tell you that is is completely solved
is either an ignorant parrot or a lier !!

ATB
Y.Porat
-----------------------

For the ordinary world Gamma is

quite small for an ordinary speed. Still it is there.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually light in the ideal case without gravity is Gamma one.

Mitch Raemsch

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gamma 1 mathematically is as nonexistent ......
so we agree and remember it ....
and more
we have to keep in mind that light is an exception
case in other aspects as well
like
it is th e only mass that can move at c !!!

ATB
Y.Porat
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On Jun 25, 8:01*pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"xxein" wrote in message

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On Jun 25, 4:09 am, "Androcles" wrote:





"xxein" wrote in message

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On Jun 24, 7:22 pm, "Androcles" wrote:

"xxein" wrote in message

....
On Jun 24, 5:05 pm, BURT wrote:

Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a Gamma
value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new motion.

"xxein" wrote in message
...
On Jun 25, 8:01 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"xxein" wrote in message

...
On Jun 25, 4:09 am, "Androcles" wrote:





"xxein" wrote in message

...
On Jun 24, 7:22 pm, "Androcles" wrote:

"xxein" wrote in message

...
On Jun 24, 5:05 pm, BURT wrote:

Kinetic energy is Gamma relativistic. For every speed there is a
Gamma
value which is reached by acceleration or the creation of new
motion.

Motion is different energy levels. For the ordinary world Gamma is
quite small for an ordinary speed. Still it is there.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

xxein: Actually the title header makes more sense than the content.

=====================================

If you haven't found out the cretin is a titty twister yet then I can
only
pity you more than I do already. Do you seriously make such comments
as "Snow White (the bird that shacked up with seven short guys)
didn't really die when she ate that apple, she's only asleep!"

The pity of it all is that someone created an alt.physics to get away
from the imbeciles that cross-post all their **** and jerks like you
have to pollute even that.

xxein: I pity your ignorance. But I read your comments (a little).
===========================================

Then you should help me to discover gamma. Let's begin
with the question
Why did Einstein say
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?

from which the ignorant crank derived his nonsense,
then you can pity your own ignorance and tripe one-liner
comments, you petty ****head. I pity your IQ.

--
Androcles, proud to be as British as Baldric.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...Carta.wmv-Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh! You need help? You always pipe in with your doctrine and still
need help?

Well, I can help. But you will have to have a willingness to accept
it. I don't think you can.

==================================================

You mean be a moslem? Just accept the true faith?
Or be a buddhist? Just accept the true faith?
Or be a christian? Just accept the true faith?
Or be a relativist? Just accept the true faith?

It isn't that you don't think I can, it is you don't think, cretin.

==================================================

I have my own views

===================

That's the ****ing problem, imbecile. Science is not about having views,
opinions, guesses or any other wild imagination, but discovering Nature.
================================================== =

that work cogently with an objective physic and
beyond just a single universe. It doesn't mean that I am right or
correctly describe a physic, it just means that I take more into
consideration. I do quite well, thank you for asking.
================================================== =

You haven't answered my question, have you?
================================================== =

Gamma is artefactual/superficially imposed. It certainly means
something 'like' a constant, but it is not. The conditions that
support the notion of gamma are fluid and changing. But so is the
observer. It is a yin-yang of sorts. This fluid relationship that we
call physics is not the same as the actual physic. It provides for a
local physics that appears the same in different local regions until
it becomes a super-global matter like bh's or supernovas.

================================================== ==

bh? The thing you imagine exists and then try to find?
Why not imagine Santa Claus exists and then find him?
Try searching the North Pole, I've heard he might be there.

You haven't answered my question, have you?

=======================================

I all happens in a greater physic that we seem to be unaware of.
================================================

You sem to be unaware of my question, I'll repeat it.
Why did Einstein say
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?

That's what I want help with, not your idiot pseudo-religious ranting,
you ****ing shaman.

===============================================

We
can watch the general behavior of our universe and probe into the
quantum behaviors. But we cannot put it all together. To say we can
or do is a blatant lie and should make a mockery of our otherwise
intelligence.
==================================================

Of course, we will always try to make a physical connection. It is
our try to understand our present situation and destinity. But there
is much false belief in our way. You can't deny that. But yet you
forget so easily.

Just learn more.
================================================== =
I'm trying to learn more, you daft ****.

I want to know why Einstein said
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?

Just ****ing concentrate, you moron.
--
Androcles, proud to be as British as Baldric.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...agnaCarta.wmv- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

xxein: Why do you believe that?
=====================================

Because it's obviously an artefactual/superficially imposed yin-yang of
sorts.
=====================================
Doesn't gravity 'bend' light?

===================================
Artefactual/superficially imposed yin-yangs of sorts don't bend anything.