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Shape of Universe Uncertain.



 
 
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Old June 20th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics
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Default Shape of Universe Uncertain.

On Jun 18, 4:11*pm, BURT wrote:
On Jun 18, 2:04*pm, Immortalist wrote:





On Jun 18, 9:17*am, Sanny wrote:


I read somewhere some scientist predict Universe is donut shape. With
size of 156 Billion Lightyears.


If space has dimensions like, height, width, length and time, etc...
then wouldn't the appearance of space and the shape of space be
something inside of space only? I mean since there is nothing outside
of space and no dimensions the shape would not exist would it?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CMB_Timeline75.jpg


We use light to see our universe.


So say a star is 1000 light year away then we can see it what it was
1000 years Back.


Age of Starts is arround 9 Billion years.


So when we see thing 100 Billion light years away. If a star was
present there then It is dead after 9 Billion years.


So Any Star we see outside 9 Billion years away are not present and do
not exist.


It may happen some star has born 5 Billion years back at a distance of
15 Billion light year away. So it will take another 10 Billion years
for light to reach us from that star.


So talking about any Galaxy/ Star which is away from 9 Billion years
is meaningless as there are high Chances that it do not exists now.


Since we cannot see Whole Universe at a single time we can never say
its correct shape.


As our Shape will be having time lapse. The far away Stars have
already died. And there may be many stars which exist and there light
have not reach us.


I am not an Astronmer So I do not exactly know how such things are
predicted.


Anyone have some clue how these things are considered?


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4 dimensional round hypersphere.


Try again, if that happens it happens in space, and outside the
universe there is no space unless there is other or multiple
universes, which have less than nothing between them where hyper can't
happen. In string theory though graviton string shapes can travel
between universes.

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Old June 20th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.astronomy,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics
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Default Shape of Universe Uncertain.

On Jun 19, 3:14*pm, Immortalist wrote:
On Jun 18, 4:11*pm, BURT wrote:





On Jun 18, 2:04*pm, Immortalist wrote:


On Jun 18, 9:17*am, Sanny wrote:


I read somewhere some scientist predict Universe is donut shape. With
size of 156 Billion Lightyears.


If space has dimensions like, height, width, length and time, etc...
then wouldn't the appearance of space and the shape of space be
something inside of space only? I mean since there is nothing outside
of space and no dimensions the shape would not exist would it?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CMB_Timeline75.jpg


We use light to see our universe.


So say a star is 1000 light year away then we can see it what it was
1000 years Back.


Age of Starts is arround 9 Billion years.


So when we see thing 100 Billion light years away. If a star was
present there then It is dead after 9 Billion years.


So Any Star we see outside 9 Billion years away are not present and do
not exist.


It may happen some star has born 5 Billion years back at a distance of
15 Billion light year away. So it will take another 10 Billion years
for light to reach us from that star.


So talking about any Galaxy/ Star which is away from 9 Billion years
is meaningless as there are high Chances that it do not exists now.


Since we cannot see Whole Universe at a single time we can never say
its correct shape.


As our Shape will be having time lapse. The far away Stars have
already died. And there may be many stars which exist and there light
have not reach us.


I am not an Astronmer So I do not exactly know how such things are
predicted.


Anyone have some clue how these things are considered?


Bye
Sanny- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


4 dimensional round hypersphere.


Try again, if that happens it happens in space, and outside the
universe there is no space unless there is other or multiple
universes, which have less than nothing between them where hyper can't
happen. In string theory though graviton string shapes can travel
between universes.



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I'll try again. The closed universe described by Einstein happens to
be a 4Sphere or 4 dimensional hypersphere surface.

 




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