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"Darwin123" wrote in message ... In terms of the aether theory, please explain the following. 1) The formula, F=qV x B, where F is the force vector on an electrical charge, q is the amount of electrical charge, V is the velocity of the electrical charge, x is the cross product and B is the magnetic field. Note F, V and B are 3D vectors, q is a scalar, and x is a binary vector operation. I'll break question 1 down into less mathematical components. 2) When an electrical charged particle moves through a magnetic field, why is the force vector perpendicular to the velocity vector? 3) When an electrical charged particle moves through a magnetic field, why is the magnitude of the force proportional to the velocity? 4) Why is the magnitude of the force vector proportional to the electrical charge at all? I would appreciate any explanation based on the mechanical properties of aether. I don't want an explanation directly based on Maxwell's equations, except if you can connect the mechanical properties of the aether to Maxwell's equations. I am not particularly interested in space-time, cosmology, Big Bang, steady state or inflationary cosmology. I am interested only in this obvious and intuitive aether model of electromagnetic phenomena. Did you look up Maxwell's model in his treaty? If I remember correctly, he came to realize that there seem to be just too many models possible. A more modern attempt is MIT's string-net theory http://dao.mit.edu/8.08/chintr-bsn.pdf which sure looks interesting. Harald |
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On Jun 15, 3:42*pm, "harry"
wrote: "Darwin123" wrote in message ... In terms of the aether theory, please explain the following. 1) The formula, F=qV x B, where F is the force vector on an electrical charge, q is the amount of electrical charge, V is the velocity of the electrical charge, x is the cross product and B is the magnetic field. * *Note F, V and B are 3D vectors, q is a scalar, and x is a binary vector operation. I'll break question 1 down into less mathematical components. 2) When an electrical charged particle moves through a magnetic field, why is the force vector perpendicular to the velocity vector? 3) When an electrical charged particle moves through a magnetic field, why is the magnitude of the force proportional to the velocity? 4) Why is the magnitude of the force vector proportional to the electrical charge at all? * * * I would appreciate any explanation based on the mechanical properties of aether. I don't want an explanation directly based on Maxwell's equations, except if you can connect the mechanical properties of the aether to Maxwell's equations. I am not particularly interested in space-time, cosmology, Big Bang, steady state or inflationary cosmology. I am interested only in this obvious and intuitive aether model of electromagnetic phenomena. Did you look up Maxwell's model in his treaty? If I remember correctly, he came to realize that there seem to be just too many models possible. A more modern attempt is MIT's string-net theoryhttp://dao.mit.edu/8.08/chintr-bsn.pdfwhich sure looks interesting. Harald- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes Harry, years ago while a graduate student, I did. Maxwell was not the only scientist to question if the paradigm was absolute, and only novices accept that it is. Beware of MIT. It a dangerous place because it teached people how to think analytically -- Not simply quote rote knowledge!!!! Cal Tech and Chicago are equally evil influences and and instruments of the Devil!!! Dorothy, get too close to any of these places and you won't be in Kansas anymore. :-) Harry C. |
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On Jun 15, 3:42 pm, "harry"
wrote: "Darwin123" wrote in message ... Did you look up Maxwell's model in his treaty? If I remember correctly, he came to realize that there seem to be just too many models possible. You mean he came to realize that the aether model was redundant? The word redundant was used by Einstein to describe the aether model. Lorentz like the word. He thought that was an important point in Einstein's relativity. |
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wrote in message ... On Jun 15, 3:42 pm, "harry" wrote: "Darwin123" wrote in message ... In terms of the aether theory, please explain the following. 1) The formula, F=qV x B, where F is the force vector on an electrical charge, q is the amount of electrical charge, V is the velocity of the electrical charge, x is the cross product and B is the magnetic field. Note F, V and B are 3D vectors, q is a scalar, and x is a binary vector operation. I'll break question 1 down into less mathematical components. 2) When an electrical charged particle moves through a magnetic field, why is the force vector perpendicular to the velocity vector? 3) When an electrical charged particle moves through a magnetic field, why is the magnitude of the force proportional to the velocity? 4) Why is the magnitude of the force vector proportional to the electrical charge at all? I would appreciate any explanation based on the mechanical properties of aether. I don't want an explanation directly based on Maxwell's equations, except if you can connect the mechanical properties of the aether to Maxwell's equations. I am not particularly interested in space-time, cosmology, Big Bang, steady state or inflationary cosmology. I am interested only in this obvious and intuitive aether model of electromagnetic phenomena. Did you look up Maxwell's model in his treaty? If I remember correctly, he came to realize that there seem to be just too many models possible. A more modern attempt is MIT's string-net theory http://dao.mit.edu/8.08/chintr-bsn.pdf which sure looks interesting. Harald- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes Harry, years ago while a graduate student, I did. Maxwell was not the only scientist to question if the paradigm was absolute, and only novices accept that it is. I'm not sure which paradigm you mean... Beware of MIT. It a dangerous place because it teached people how to think analytically -- Not simply quote rote knowledge!!!! Good! Reminds me that Feynman was there - perhaps it's in part his "fault". :-) Harald |
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"Darwin123" wrote in message ... On Jun 15, 3:42 pm, "harry" wrote: "Darwin123" wrote in message ... Did you look up Maxwell's model in his treaty? If I remember correctly, he came to realize that there seem to be just too many models possible. You mean he came to realize that the aether model was redundant? No. Would you mean that the Bohr model of the atom is "redundant"? It's the wrong word, and even Einstein came to disagree with such an idea. The word redundant was used by Einstein to describe the aether model. Perhaps you mean that a detailed ether model was redundant for deriving the Lorentz transformations? Indeed, even Lorentz adopted Einstein's approach. Lorentz like the word. He thought that was an important point in Einstein's relativity. Hmm... I never heard that - please give the reference. Harald |
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