Dono wrote on Sat, 31 May 2008 10:41:42 -0700:

On May 31, 10:38 am, "Juan****o R." González-�lvarez
wrote:


And *learn* why time is absolute and learn why Einstein confounded time
with clocks :-)


repeating the same idiocies, Juan****o?

What "conferences" will you grace with your august presence?


One of authors of the monograph

http://order.ph.utexas.edu/mtrump/manybody/

is Prof. Schieve

http://order.ph.utexas.edu/people/Schieve.htm

In addition, Dr. Schieve is regarded as one of the world experts in the
field of relativistic chaos.

http://order.ph.utexas.edu/research/glimpse.html


If you cannot access to above monograph take a look to online resources

http://canonicalscience.blogspot.com...agrangian-and-
limitations_20.html

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_dynamics

And *learn* why time is absolute and learn why Einstein confounded time
with clocks

The wikipedia article is written in very simple terms and it may readable
even for someone like you



--
Center for CANONICAL |SCIENCE)
http://canonicalscience.org

On May 31, 2:28 pm, Sanny wrote:
Our World has seen a lot of great Scientists How would you rate them.
I am mainly considering Physics Scientists.

Just tell me Which are the best Scientists you liked and why you liked
them.

Here are the Scientist I liked the Best.

1. Best of All I think is Newton.
----------------------------------------------

He gave laws of Motion and Told about Gravity. So Most of the Weapons
work on his principles. Space Missions need Newtons Laws of Gravity.
And Modern weapons like Missiles, Tanks, Guns all work based on Newton
Laws.

2nd Best: Faraday
-----------------------------

He gave us Light and Electricity. So all Fans, Coolers, Machines that
work on Electricity and give us so much Comfort are all because of
Faraday.

3rd James Watt
----------------------------

He was a young boy and found Steam could be used to drive Trains. So
initial locomotives worked because of him. And all transportation we
see arround started by ideas of this Brilliant Boy.

4th Archimedes
----------------------------

He was born in 212 BC but was having strong Brain and discovered
things which even people in 20th century cannot think about.

He was killed by a soldier when he was researching something.

A Roman soldier commanded him to come and meet General Marcellus but
he declined, saying that he had to finish working on the problem. The
soldier was enraged by this, and killed Archimedes with his sword.
Plutarch also gives a lesser-known account of the death of Archimedes
which suggests that he may have been killed while attempting to
surrender to a Roman soldier. According to this story, Archimedes was
carrying mathematical instruments, and was killed because the soldier
thought that they were valuable items

5th Galilio
------------------

He was a great Scientist and he found a lot of new things in
Astronomy. His advances made us know about the Earth and other planets
better. His Theories were not Liked by the Church and Church ordered
him in Prision for rest of his life. Because Church was not accepting
his theories and do not want the new theories to be known by people.

Church said Earth is in Center of Universe and Sun and all planets
revolve arround the Earth. But Galilio was not agreeing with that So
he was given Life imprisionment at his old age.

6th The Einstine
--------------------------

He made such complex theories that even todays people are having pain
in understanding his theories. But still he was a good Mathematician.
His theories were proved correct on most occasions. But still there
are a few faults in his theory and todays Scientists are finding
better ways using modern ideas like Quantum Mechanics.

So, This is how I grade the Best Scientists of the World.

These are my preferences. What do you think. Whom do you think is the
best Scientist and is there someone whom I am missing?

Bye
Sanny

The soldier made the most significant contribution.

Position No. 2 goes to Hans Christian Andersen

On May 31, 10:46 am, "Juan****o R." González-Álvarez
wrote:


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Yep, Center for Canonical **** Eating
Bon apetit, Juan****o!

The Great Physicists

Boil, discoverd in ninth grade that water boyles at 212 degrees F, and
never by-gosh was forgotten

daVinci, he's not mentioned above, but didn't he design an airplane or
helicopter or something that could also be related to "physics"
since everything is anyhow

Madame Curee, no telling how many cancers are caused by her damned
radiation discovery, almost worse than Mrs. Clinton, target practice
for miscyoginists and poor spellers

Graham, various physical involved laws, for instance, like inflation
causes sound coins to flee from dirty commerce or not even close

Graham again, could fill up a stadium without a football game, rock
concert, nixon speech: invented classy north carolina accent

Robespierre, advisor about related stuff & their reactions to the King
of France, also named after a beautiful bird genus hint : not that
orangey robin

On May 31, 6:23*pm, Robert Cohen wrote:
The Great Physicists

Boil, discoverd in ninth grade that water boyles at 212 degrees F, and
never by-gosh was forgotten

daVinci, he's not mentioned above, but didn't he design an airplane or
helicopter or something that could also be *related to "physics"
since everything is anyhow

Madame Curee, no telling how many cancers are caused by her damned
radiation discovery, almost worse than Mrs. Clinton, target practice
for miscyoginists and poor spellers

Graham, various physical involved laws, for instance, like inflation
causes sound coins to flee from dirty commerce or not even close

Graham again, could fill up a stadium without a football game, rock
concert, nixon speech: invented classy north carolina accent

Robespierre, advisor about related stuff & their reactions to the King
of France, also named after a beautiful bird genus hint : not that
orangey robin

Oops: That first Graham was meant to be Gresham, so solly

"Sanny" wrote in message
...
Our World has seen a lot of great Scientists How would you rate them.
I am mainly considering Physics Scientists.

Just tell me Which are the best Scientists you liked and why you liked
them.

Here are the Scientist I liked the Best.

1. Best of All I think is Newton.
----------------------------------------------

He gave laws of Motion and Told about Gravity. So Most of the Weapons
work on his principles. Space Missions need Newtons Laws of Gravity.
And Modern weapons like Missiles, Tanks, Guns all work based on Newton
Laws.

2nd Best: Faraday
-----------------------------

He gave us Light and Electricity. So all Fans, Coolers, Machines that
work on Electricity and give us so much Comfort are all because of
Faraday.

3rd James Watt
----------------------------

He was a young boy and found Steam could be used to drive Trains. So
initial locomotives worked because of him. And all transportation we
see arround started by ideas of this Brilliant Boy.

4th Archimedes
----------------------------

He was born in 212 BC but was having strong Brain and discovered
things which even people in 20th century cannot think about.

He was killed by a soldier when he was researching something.

A Roman soldier commanded him to come and meet General Marcellus but
he declined, saying that he had to finish working on the problem. The
soldier was enraged by this, and killed Archimedes with his sword.
Plutarch also gives a lesser-known account of the death of Archimedes
which suggests that he may have been killed while attempting to
surrender to a Roman soldier. According to this story, Archimedes was
carrying mathematical instruments, and was killed because the soldier
thought that they were valuable items

5th Galilio
------------------

He was a great Scientist and he found a lot of new things in
Astronomy. His advances made us know about the Earth and other planets
better. His Theories were not Liked by the Church and Church ordered
him in Prision for rest of his life. Because Church was not accepting
his theories and do not want the new theories to be known by people.

Church said Earth is in Center of Universe and Sun and all planets
revolve arround the Earth. But Galilio was not agreeing with that So
he was given Life imprisionment at his old age.

6th The Einstine
--------------------------

He made such complex theories that even todays people are having pain
in understanding his theories. But still he was a good Mathematician.
His theories were proved correct on most occasions. But still there
are a few faults in his theory and todays Scientists are finding
better ways using modern ideas like Quantum Mechanics.

So, This is how I grade the Best Scientists of the World.

These are my preferences. What do you think. Whom do you think is the
best Scientist and is there someone whom I am missing?

Bye
Sanny

Galileo planted the seed of modern physics
with his discovery of the fact that a pendulum
could divide the day, month, and year into finer increments,
thus setting the stage for the search for finer and finer,
and different and more stable oscillators,
without which science would not have progressed.

Galileo also studied the relationships between
mass, gravity, acceleration, and velocity,
and discovered that gravity affected the frequency of oscillators,
( The "Galileo Effect", an effect considered in the GPS system.)
thus setting the stage for Newton's Laws.

And without Volta's AMAZING invention of the battery
( While investigating "animal electricity".)
there would not have been the rapid advances in
electricity, magnetism and chemistry
that immediately followed from the availability of a
continuous source of electrical power.

Man knew of, and had played with, static electricity for centuries,
but lacked the ability to perform experiments
to expand man's knowledge of chemistry, electricity,
magnetism, motors, generators, plating, etc.
until Volta's invention.

And of course, Maxwell establish the standard
that all physics models MUST conform to,
with his development of Dimensional Analysis,
where he showed that all of the physical properties
could be defined in terms of mass, time and
a three dimensional space vector "del".

And Maxwell basically was the founder of Quantum Mechanics
as he pointed out that multidimensional systems had to
be described using the newly developed field of statistics
that was being used by the English government,

and of course, Einstein/Bose statistics,
and Fermi statistics are nominal variations
of Maxwell's statistics, used to express
nouns (Fermions) and verbs (Bosons)
in terms of a single family (Words).

And of course, Tom Edison was the free market master of
all scientists, as he invented the recording of sound and
motion pictures, and applied the newly discovered
laws of physics to developing electric power companies,
street lighting, home lighting, and electrically
driven factories

PLUS Edison discovered the "Edison Effect"
which lead to the triode,
which lead to the transistor,
which lead to the integrated circuit,
which lead to the microprocessor.

Contrast the works of these great Scientists to the works
of the scientist that Time Magazine declared to
be the "Man of the Century", Einstein.

As can be seen, Einstein not only ripped off Maxwell, Thomson,
Leucippus, etc. and tried to derail Quantum Mechanics,

but he ripped off the works of people like Lorenz and Fitzgerald,
and called it Special Relativity,

and ripped of the model (Stress and strains) and tools (Tensors) of the
stress analysis gurus of the late 1800's,
and called it General Relativity,

and put such a spin on his theories
that they waste time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes,
warped spaces, rubber clocks and rulers, etc.

When one compares the works of
Einstein to other scientists,

one has to wonder why Time Magazine
made Einstein their "Man of the Century",

and why the American government has spent
billions of the taxpayers hard-earned dollars
trying to rationalize Einstein's models.

For example, after Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.

After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.

After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.

It appears that the theories
of Time Magazine's "Man of the Century"
are more of a "Tower of Babel"
than viable, cost-effective, models that
can be used to improve the lot of mankind.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

--
Tom Potter

http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com
http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos

On May 31, 6:40 pm, "Tom Potter" wrote:
"Sanny" wrote in message

...



Our World has seen a lot of great Scientists How would you rate them.
I am mainly considering Physics Scientists.

Just tell me Which are the best Scientists you liked and why you liked
them.

Here are the Scientist I liked the Best.

1. Best of All I think is Newton.
----------------------------------------------

He gave laws of Motion and Told about Gravity. So Most of the Weapons
work on his principles. Space Missions need Newtons Laws of Gravity.
And Modern weapons like Missiles, Tanks, Guns all work based on Newton
Laws.

2nd Best: Faraday
-----------------------------

He gave us Light and Electricity. So all Fans, Coolers, Machines that
work on Electricity and give us so much Comfort are all because of
Faraday.

3rd James Watt
----------------------------

He was a young boy and found Steam could be used to drive Trains. So
initial locomotives worked because of him. And all transportation we
see arround started by ideas of this Brilliant Boy.

4th Archimedes
----------------------------

He was born in 212 BC but was having strong Brain and discovered
things which even people in 20th century cannot think about.

He was killed by a soldier when he was researching something.

A Roman soldier commanded him to come and meet General Marcellus but
he declined, saying that he had to finish working on the problem. The
soldier was enraged by this, and killed Archimedes with his sword.
Plutarch also gives a lesser-known account of the death of Archimedes
which suggests that he may have been killed while attempting to
surrender to a Roman soldier. According to this story, Archimedes was
carrying mathematical instruments, and was killed because the soldier
thought that they were valuable items

5th Galilio
------------------

He was a great Scientist and he found a lot of new things in
Astronomy. His advances made us know about the Earth and other planets
better. His Theories were not Liked by the Church and Church ordered
him in Prision for rest of his life. Because Church was not accepting
his theories and do not want the new theories to be known by people.

Church said Earth is in Center of Universe and Sun and all planets
revolve arround the Earth. But Galilio was not agreeing with that So
he was given Life imprisionment at his old age.

6th The Einstine
--------------------------

He made such complex theories that even todays people are having pain
in understanding his theories. But still he was a good Mathematician.
His theories were proved correct on most occasions. But still there
are a few faults in his theory and todays Scientists are finding
better ways using modern ideas like Quantum Mechanics.

So, This is how I grade the Best Scientists of the World.

These are my preferences. What do you think. Whom do you think is the
best Scientist and is there someone whom I am missing?

Bye
Sanny

Galileo planted the seed of modern physics
with his discovery of the fact that a pendulum
could divide the day, month, and year into finer increments,
thus setting the stage for the search for finer and finer,
and different and more stable oscillators,
without which science would not have progressed.

Galileo also studied the relationships between
mass, gravity, acceleration, and velocity,
and discovered that gravity affected the frequency of oscillators,
( The "Galileo Effect", an effect considered in the GPS system.)
thus setting the stage for Newton's Laws.

And without Volta's AMAZING invention of the battery
( While investigating "animal electricity".)
there would not have been the rapid advances in
electricity, magnetism and chemistry
that immediately followed from the availability of a
continuous source of electrical power.

Man knew of, and had played with, static electricity for centuries,
but lacked the ability to perform experiments
to expand man's knowledge of chemistry, electricity,
magnetism, motors, generators, plating, etc.
until Volta's invention.

And of course, Maxwell establish the standard
that all physics models MUST conform to,
with his development of Dimensional Analysis,
where he showed that all of the physical properties
could be defined in terms of mass, time and
a three dimensional space vector "del".

And Maxwell basically was the founder of Quantum Mechanics
as he pointed out that multidimensional systems had to
be described using the newly developed field of statistics
that was being used by the English government,

and of course, Einstein/Bose statistics,
and Fermi statistics are nominal variations
of Maxwell's statistics, used to express
nouns (Fermions) and verbs (Bosons)
in terms of a single family (Words).

And of course, Tom Edison was the free market master of
all scientists, as he invented the recording of sound and
motion pictures, and applied the newly discovered
laws of physics to developing electric power companies,
street lighting, home lighting, and electrically
driven factories

PLUS Edison discovered the "Edison Effect"
which lead to the triode,
which lead to the transistor,
which lead to the integrated circuit,
which lead to the microprocessor.

Contrast the works of these great Scientists to the works
of the scientist that Time Magazine declared to
be the "Man of the Century", Einstein.

As can be seen, Einstein not only ripped off Maxwell, Thomson,
Leucippus, etc. and tried to derail Quantum Mechanics,

but he ripped off the works of people like Lorenz and Fitzgerald,
and called it Special Relativity,

and ripped of the model (Stress and strains) and tools (Tensors) of the
stress analysis gurus of the late 1800's,
and called it General Relativity,

and put such a spin on his theories
that they waste time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes,
warped spaces, rubber clocks and rulers, etc.

When one compares the works of
Einstein to other scientists,

one has to wonder why Time Magazine
made Einstein their "Man of the Century",

and why the American government has spent
billions of the taxpayers hard-earned dollars
trying to rationalize Einstein's models.

For example, after Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.

After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.

After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.

It appears that the theories
of Time Magazine's "Man of the Century"
are more of a "Tower of Babel"
than viable, cost-effective, models that
can be used to improve the lot of mankind.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

edison was a hack
(tesla had much greater influence on modern electronics)

and watson and crick did not discover the DNA model
(they stole it from rosalind franklin)

so if even a brillinat man as yourself
could make such blunders of attribution
how can you blame a popularity mag?

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
galathaea: prankster, fablist, magician, liar

On Jun 1, 4:40*am, "Tom Potter" wrote:

............... increidibly stupid ranting snip-snap-snup-
cutty .......

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Tom Potter

************************************************** ***************

Oh, so it is a personal mourning for you? Tsk,tsk,tsk....my
condolences.

Regards
Tonio

On May 31, 10:07 pm, Tonico wrote:
On Jun 1, 4:40 am, "Tom Potter" wrote:

............... increidibly stupid ranting snip-snap-snup-
cutty .......

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Tom Potter

************************************************** ***************

Oh, so it is a personal mourning for you? Tsk,tsk,tsk....my
condolences.

a mind is a terrible thing to taste

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
galathaea: prankster, fablist, magician, liar

On Jun 1, 2:40*am, "Tom Potter" wrote:

[..]

Contrast the works of these great Scientists to the works
of the scientist that Time Magazine declared to
be the "Man of the Century", Einstein.

As can be seen, Einstein not only ripped off Maxwell, Thomson,
Leucippus, etc. and tried to derail Quantum Mechanics,

but he ripped off the works of people like Lorenz and Fitzgerald,
and called it Special Relativity,

and ripped of the model (Stress and strains) and tools (Tensors)
of the stress analysis gurus of the late 1800's, and called it
General Relativity,

Terrible - cheating is so easy isn't it. What a fraud!

Tell you what, why not prove your point by ripping off
some modern maths and developing a unified field theory.

Einstein never managed that (obviously lazy as well as
a cheat), but there's stacks more maths to pirate these
days and probably ample for the purpose.

But no cheating, mind, by developing any new maths, or
your whole theory will be discredited.


Cheers

John Ramsden