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Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics
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All masses fall alike. This means that gravity could move a
potentially infinite mass without resistance. In this sense gravity is
an all powerful force.

Mitch Reamsch; Falling light chnages colour
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Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics
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On May 10, 6:12*pm, The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
In sci.physics.relativity,

*wrote
on Sat, 10 May 2008 18:23:06 -0700 (PDT)
:

All masses fall alike. This means that gravity could move a
potentially infinite mass without resistance. In this sense gravity is
an all powerful force.


Mitch Reamsch; Falling light chnages colour


Falling light does indeed change color; the question is how much.

Do you have a formula?

--
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It depends on whether it is going in or out of gravity.
The actual quantity I believe is called the Einstein shift.

At a black hole the Einstein shift goes infinite. So light at the
event horizon going in gets infinitely blueshifted while light coming
out gets infinitely redshifted.

So black holes make two nonsense predictions at their event horizons:
Infinite Energy Light and Zero Energy Light.

Black hole theory brakes down first at the event horizon then inside.

Black holes are going out with a bang.

Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
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All Nobel Laureates
777 individuals and 20 organizations have been awarded the Nobel Prize.


http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/all/index.html
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On May 11, 12:14*am, Ralph Hertle wrote:
All Nobel Laureates
777 individuals and 20 organizations have been awarded the Nobel Prize.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/all/index.html


Why do people continue to humor the noise generator?
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Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics
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Default Gravity is ubiquitous

In sci.physics.relativity,

wrote
on Sat, 10 May 2008 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT)
:
On May 10, 6:12*pm, The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
In sci.physics.relativity,

*wrote
on Sat, 10 May 2008 18:23:06 -0700 (PDT)
:

All masses fall alike. This means that gravity could move a
potentially infinite mass without resistance. In this sense gravity is
an all powerful force.


Mitch Reamsch; Falling light chnages colour


Falling light does indeed change color; the question is how much.

Do you have a formula?

--
#191,
fortune: not found
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**


It depends on whether it is going in or out of gravity.
The actual quantity I believe is called the Einstein shift.


And that is ... ?

Also, how does something fall out of gravity?


At a black hole the Einstein shift goes infinite. So light at the
event horizon going in gets infinitely blueshifted while light coming
out gets infinitely redshifted.

So black holes make two nonsense predictions at their event horizons:
Infinite Energy Light and Zero Energy Light.

Black hole theory brakes down first at the event horizon then inside.

Black holes are going out with a bang.


If I understand you correctly, black holes never were (they are, after
all, a working hypothesis). So now one has to cast about for
alternative explanations for various pictures, among them Cygnus X-1.

This should not be too difficult for you, but you'll need
to get the observations exactly right in your alternative
model. A black hole of a certain mass explains X-1
reasonably well, as I understand it, in standard physics.

A fair number here of course consider standard physics hopelessly
corrupted, by those who aren't open to "new, correct" ideas or some
such. Me, I tend to follow the herd.


Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008



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std::vector... v; for(int i = 0; i v.size(); i++) v.erase(v.begin() + i);
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Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics
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wrote:

All masses fall alike. This means that gravity could move a
potentially infinite mass without resistance. In this sense gravity is
an all powerful force.

Mitch Reamsch; Falling light chnages colour


Hey ****ing stooopid: Parity violating massed sectors are neither
required nor forbidden in metric-affine, Einstein-Cartan,
teleparallel, and Riemannian geometry gravitations. Ashtekar has a
parity violating term with the Immirzi coefficient.

Indian Academy of Sciences 53(6) 1115 (1999)

http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
Dunning-Kruger effect (2000 Ig Nobel Prize): ignorance more
frequently begets confidence than does knowledge

1) Incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of
skill.
2) Incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in
others.
3) Incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their
inadequacy.

http://www.meninhats.com/d/20040430.html
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

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Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics
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"Uncle Al" wrote in message
...

1) Incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of
skill.
2) Incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in
others.
3) Incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their
inadequacy.



Look in the mirror


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Old May 12th 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics
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On May 11, 8:25*am, The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
In sci.physics.relativity,

*wrote
on Sat, 10 May 2008 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT)
:





On May 10, 6:12*pm, The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
In sci.physics.relativity,

*wrote
on Sat, 10 May 2008 18:23:06 -0700 (PDT)
:


All masses fall alike. This means that gravity could move a
potentially infinite mass without resistance. In this sense gravity is
an all powerful force.


Mitch Reamsch; Falling light chnages colour


Falling light does indeed change color; the question is how much.


Do you have a formula?


--
#191,
fortune: not found
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**


It depends on whether it is going in or out of gravity.
The actual quantity I believe is called the Einstein shift.


And that is ... ?

Also, how does something fall out of gravity?


That is simple. Gravity decelerates something leaving it. The escape
velocity it will be greater than the deceleration.




At a black hole the Einstein shift goes infinite. So light at the
event horizon going in gets infinitely blueshifted while light coming
out gets infinitely redshifted.


So black holes make two nonsense predictions at their event horizons:
Infinite Energy Light and Zero Energy Light.


Black hole theory brakes down first at the event horizon then inside.


Black holes are going out with a bang.


If I understand you correctly, black holes never were (they are, after
all, a working hypothesis). *So now one has to cast about for
alternative explanations for various pictures, among them Cygnus X-1.

This should not be too difficult for you, but you'll need
to get the observations exactly right in your alternative
model. *A black hole of a certain mass explains X-1
reasonably well, as I understand it, in standard physics.

A fair number here of course consider standard physics hopelessly
corrupted, by those who aren't open to "new, correct" ideas or some
such. *Me, I tend to follow the herd.



Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008


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std::vector... v; for(int i = 0; i v.size(); i++) v.erase(v.begin() + i);
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Old May 12th 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics
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On May 11, 3:23 am, wrote:
All masses fall alike. This means that gravity could move a
potentially infinite mass without resistance. In this sense gravity is
an all powerful force.


Yeah, we could build a gravity wheels. How much conclusions does one
need to make before consideration? There are so much clues provided,
thinking towards a goal in stead of away from it is very likely to
lead to results. The ignorance towards the topic might even be big
enough for the hidden solution to be something very simple.
Entertaining the thought for just 10 min puts you well beyond the
masses for they made it their goal not to look at all.

But think, what is the upper size limit for a human powered pendulum?
100 tons? The cluelesisity doesn't approach infinite until we start to
considering the consideration of it.

Here is a short youtube demo from Veljko Milković's 2 stage
oscillator.

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/veljko...?v=IHln0xczRk8

Here is his longer google video presentation.

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/veljko...22273257830738

an interview (forward it a bit to see the device)
http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/veljko...53557892175614

The thing to understand here is that the 2 stage oscillator takes less
energy from the pendulum if you put more load on it. The demand scales
reverse proportional with the supply. The pendulum swings longer with
more load attached to stage 2. Like a mechanical amp limiter. This
pumps a liter over 4 meters every second with no real effort.

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/veljko...98233322135982

The pendulum is clearly much to light and the construction is
absorbing the better part of the pulse forces. But still it works! I
have tested it and attached my bicycle to the beam. A slight push
against the pendulum and the bike flies up in the air. Of course the
energy remains in the system and the bike sends it's energy back to
the pendulum on it's way down. The point is that the initial push
SEEMS meaningless compared to the weight lifted. It boils down to
lifting 40 liters over 20 cm every 2 seconds. A human doing that kind
of labor on boxes doesn't look like the guy in the video. The work
done by us in lifting a mass of 100 grams to a height of 1 meter above
the surface of earth is approximately 1 joule (so they say) The
operator is doing 40 joules of work every 1 second or 40 watt /
second / second

Not a miracle at first sight but the way the output matches the input
exactly could be thought of as truly magical. :-) Not free energy
either but gravity's ability to accelerate bodies is clearly
demonstrated.

Here are some inspirational documents.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/weightamplifier
gabydewilde - weightamplifier

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/gravity-engine
gabydewilde - gravity engine

Just for fun. If I really knew how to build a gravity engine I
wouldn't tell you, trust me. But just the thinking about it is quite
fun in the opinion that is entirely my own.

Have fun,

:-)


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