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Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default The concept bigger than the universe

On May 10, 12:58*pm, Enes wrote:
On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:

It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a *beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.

But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,

And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.

Mitch Raemsch
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Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default The concept bigger than the universe

On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:
On May 10, 12:58*pm, Enes wrote:





On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:


It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a *beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.


But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,


And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.

Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -

- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -


There is volume. What for hypersurface ?
  #13  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
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On May 10, 1:11*pm, Enes wrote:
On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:





On May 10, 12:58*pm, Enes wrote:


On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:


It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a *beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.


But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,


And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -


There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.

Mitch Raemsch
  #14  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default The concept bigger than the universe

On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote:
On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote:





On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:


On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:


It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.


But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,


And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -


There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.

Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -

- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine :
hypersurface = volume

It is like this:
hypercircle = sphere
  #15  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default The concept bigger than the universe

On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote:
On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote:





On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:


On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:


It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.


But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,


And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -


There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine :
hypersurface = volume

It is like this:
hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Circle the hypersphere!
  #16  
Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default The concept bigger than the universe

On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote:
On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote:





On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote:


On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:


On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:


It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.


But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,


And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -


There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine :
hypersurface = volume


It is like this:
hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst -

- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


No, rather not.

Using "hyper" convention we can say that:

hyperpoint = circle
  #17  
Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default The concept bigger than the universe

On May 11, 2:12Â*am, Enes wrote:
On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote:





On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote:


On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:


On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:


It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.


But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,


And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -


There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine :
hypersurface = volume


It is like this:
hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


No, rather not.

Using "hyper" convention we can say that:

hyperpoint = circle- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


A point isn't below a circle
  #18  
Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
Enes
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Default The concept bigger than the universe

On 11 Maj, 21:54, wrote:
On May 11, 2:12Â*am, Enes wrote:





On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote:


On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote:


On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:


On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:


It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.


But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,


And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -


There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine :
hypersurface = volume


It is like this:
hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


No, rather not.


Using "hyper" convention we can say that:


hyperpoint = circle- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


A point isn't below a circle- Ukryj cytowany tekst -

- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine:
a point moves around another point ( with the same distance and
plane)
and markes/makes a circle
It is easy, isn"t it ?
  #19  
Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
mitch.nicolas.raemsch@gmail.com
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Posts: 2,849
Default The concept bigger than the universe

On May 11, 12:55Â*pm, Enes wrote:
On 11 Maj, 21:54, wrote:





On May 11, 2:12Â*am, Enes wrote:


On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote:


On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote:


On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:


On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:


It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.


But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,


And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -


There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine :
hypersurface = volume


It is like this:
hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


No, rather not.


Using "hyper" convention we can say that:


hyperpoint = circle- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


A point isn't below a circle- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine:
a point moves around another point ( with the same distance and
plane)
and markes/makes a circle
It is easy, isn"t it ?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


There is no sub-circle.

  #20  
Old May 11th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.astro
Enes
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Default The concept bigger than the universe

On 11 Maj, 22:58, wrote:
On May 11, 12:55Â*pm, Enes wrote:





On 11 Maj, 21:54, wrote:


On May 11, 2:12Â*am, Enes wrote:


On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote:


On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote:


On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:


On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote:


On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote:


It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly
round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional
hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing
away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only
one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before.
The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity.


Mitch Raemsch


Mitch,
we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough
and confirmed.


But who knows ...may be you are right, but :
- hypersphere needs 4D,
- hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D,


And what about time ?
4D + time ?
Any experiments ?


Hypersurface is 3D volume.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Poka¿ cytowany tekst -


There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that
it is growing in every moment.


Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine :
hypersurface = volume


It is like this:
hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


No, rather not.


Using "hyper" convention we can say that:


hyperpoint = circle- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


A point isn't below a circle- Ukryj cytowany tekst -


- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Try to imagine:
a point moves around another point ( with the same distance and
plane)
and markes/makes a circle
It is easy, isn"t it ?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


There is no sub-circle.- Ukryj cytowany tekst -

- Pokaż cytowany tekst -


Probably 2 points can be.
 




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