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On May 10, 12:58*pm, Enes wrote:
On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a *beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch |
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On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote:
On May 10, 12:58*pm, Enes wrote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a *beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Poka¿ cytowany tekst - There is volume. What for hypersurface ? |
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On May 10, 1:11*pm, Enes wrote:
On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote: On May 10, 12:58*pm, Enes wrote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a *beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Poka¿ cytowany tekst - There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that it is growing in every moment. Mitch Raemsch |
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On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote:
On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote: On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Poka¿ cytowany tekst - There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that it is growing in every moment. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine : hypersurface = volume It is like this: hypercircle = sphere |
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On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote:
On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote: On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote: On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Poka¿ cytowany tekst - There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that it is growing in every moment. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine : hypersurface = volume It is like this: hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Circle the hypersphere! |
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On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote:
On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote: On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote: On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Poka¿ cytowany tekst - There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that it is growing in every moment. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine : hypersurface = volume It is like this: hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - No, rather not. Using "hyper" convention we can say that: hyperpoint = circle |
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On May 11, 2:12Â*am, Enes wrote:
On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote: On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote: On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote: On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Poka¿ cytowany tekst - There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that it is growing in every moment. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine : hypersurface = volume It is like this: hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - No, rather not. Using "hyper" convention we can say that: hyperpoint = circle- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A point isn't below a circle |
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On 11 Maj, 21:54, wrote:
On May 11, 2:12Â*am, Enes wrote: On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote: On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote: On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote: On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Poka¿ cytowany tekst - There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that it is growing in every moment. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine : hypersurface = volume It is like this: hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - No, rather not. Using "hyper" convention we can say that: hyperpoint = circle- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A point isn't below a circle- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine: a point moves around another point ( with the same distance and plane) and markes/makes a circle ![]() It is easy, isn"t it ? |
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On May 11, 12:55Â*pm, Enes wrote:
On 11 Maj, 21:54, wrote: On May 11, 2:12Â*am, Enes wrote: On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote: On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote: On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote: On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Poka¿ cytowany tekst - There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that it is growing in every moment. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine : hypersurface = volume It is like this: hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - No, rather not. Using "hyper" convention we can say that: hyperpoint = circle- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A point isn't below a circle- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine: a point moves around another point ( with the same distance and plane) and markes/makes a circle ![]() It is easy, isn"t it ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no sub-circle. |
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On 11 Maj, 22:58, wrote:
On May 11, 12:55Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 11 Maj, 21:54, wrote: On May 11, 2:12Â*am, Enes wrote: On 11 Maj, 00:45, wrote: On May 10, 1:59Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:42, wrote: On May 10, 1:11Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 10 Maj, 23:01, wrote: On May 10, 12:58Â*pm, Enes wrote: On 9 Maj, 02:24, wrote: It is hypersphere. It is the 4th dimension's surface that is perfectly round. The curved universe is the hypersurface of the 4 dimensional hypersphere. The hypersphere is expanding and the universe is growing away from the 4 dimensional center. There is no outside. There is only one universe with a Â*beginning to time of which there was no before. The future is infinite. The future of the hypersphere is Infinity. Mitch Raemsch Mitch, we don"t need 4D and hypersphere. Euclidean 3D is quite good enough and confirmed. But who knows ...may be you are right, but : - hypersphere needs 4D, - hypersphere is 3D volume, 2D surface in 4D, And what about time ? 4D + time ? Any experiments ? Hypersurface is 3D volume. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Poka¿ cytowany tekst - There is volume. What for hypersurface ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know the exact volume of the universe hypersurface only that it is growing in every moment. Mitch Raemsch- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine : hypersurface = volume It is like this: hypercircle = sphere- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Circle the hypersphere!- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - No, rather not. Using "hyper" convention we can say that: hyperpoint = circle- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A point isn't below a circle- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Try to imagine: a point moves around another point ( with the same distance and plane) and markes/makes a circle ![]() It is easy, isn"t it ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is no sub-circle.- Ukryj cytowany tekst - - Pokaż cytowany tekst - Probably 2 points can be. |
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