Frankly, the major crimes you ever saw are because
of science or accidents of science. More precise,
medicine and physics. These two branches are the
worst of them all, and nano-tech, not to forget. They are
dangerous.

They start innocently, posing innocent postulates, you
cant get hurt by postulates, so you digest. The postulates
may not agree with obserrvables, heck, they are postulates,
what do you expect? Enough that them make sense in
papers and sick brains.

The postulates evolves in theories, which may not agree
with their own postulates, does not matter, theories can
be fixed in order to sell good.

Why cant we just live in peace with nature, eating plants
and living 1000 years? Why cant we just be quite?

On Sun, 4 May 2008 04:06:23 -0700 (PDT), Smooth John
wrote:

Frankly, the major crimes you ever saw are because
of science or accidents of science. More precise,
medicine and physics. These two branches are the
worst of them all, and nano-tech, not to forget. They are
dangerous.

They start innocently, posing innocent postulates, you
cant get hurt by postulates, so you digest. The postulates
may not agree with obserrvables, heck, they are postulates,
what do you expect? Enough that them make sense in
papers and sick brains.

The postulates evolves in theories, which may not agree
with their own postulates, does not matter, theories can
be fixed in order to sell good.

Why cant we just live in peace with nature, eating plants
and living 1000 years? Why cant we just be quite?

Nature is infinitely complex. When attempting to understand the
complexity gets too overwhelming, perhaps it is better to simply
accept Nature as God.
This is the pantheist approach.

Here is an open minded version
http://www.pantheist.net/

Here is a version that claims to be scientific
http://www.pantheism.net/

On May 4, 8:26 pm, Surfer wrote:
On Sun, 4 May 2008 04:06:23 -0700 (PDT), Smooth John



wrote:
Frankly, the major crimes you ever saw are because
of science or accidents of science. More precise,
medicine and physics. These two branches are the
worst of them all, and nano-tech, not to forget. They are
dangerous.

They start innocently, posing innocent postulates, you
cant get hurt by postulates, so you digest. The postulates
may not agree with obserrvables, heck, they are postulates,
what do you expect? Enough that them make sense in
papers and sick brains.

The postulates evolves in theories, which may not agree
with their own postulates, does not matter, theories can
be fixed in order to sell good.

Why cant we just live in peace with nature, eating plants
and living 1000 years? Why cant we just be quite?

Nature is infinitely complex. When attempting to understand the
complexity gets too overwhelming, perhaps it is better to simply
accept Nature as God.
This is the pantheist approach.

Here is an open minded versionhttp://www.pantheist.net/

Here is a version that claims to be scientifichttp://www.pantheism.net/

Or the Universe as God, that works also.

"Smooth John" wrote in message ...
Frankly, the major crimes you ever saw are because
of science or accidents of science. More precise,
medicine and physics. These two branches are the
worst of them all, and nano-tech, not to forget. They are
dangerous.

Yes, very dangerous.
Try religion in stead.


They start innocently, posing innocent postulates, you
cant get hurt by postulates, so you digest. The postulates
may not agree with obserrvables, heck, they are postulates,
what do you expect? Enough that them make sense in
papers and sick brains.

Yes, better stick with dogmas.
Far less dangerous.


The postulates evolves in theories, which may not agree
with their own postulates, does not matter, theories can
be fixed in order to sell good.

Yes, and pay for our big cars.
You haven't got a big car, have you?
Good.


Why cant we just live in peace with nature, eating plants
and living 1000 years? Why cant we just be quite?

We can be quite annoying toward imbeciles, can't we?

Dirk Vdm

On May 4, 8:26 pm, Don Stockbauer wrote:
On May 4, 8:26 pm, Surfer wrote:



On Sun, 4 May 2008 04:06:23 -0700 (PDT), Smooth John

wrote:
Frankly, the major crimes you ever saw are because
of science or accidents of science. More precise,
medicine and physics. These two branches are the
worst of them all, and nano-tech, not to forget. They are
dangerous.

They start innocently, posing innocent postulates, you
cant get hurt by postulates, so you digest. The postulates
may not agree with obserrvables, heck, they are postulates,
what do you expect? Enough that them make sense in
papers and sick brains.

The postulates evolves in theories, which may not agree
with their own postulates, does not matter, theories can
be fixed in order to sell good.

Why cant we just live in peace with nature, eating plants
and living 1000 years? Why cant we just be quite?

Nature is infinitely complex. When attempting to understand the
complexity gets too overwhelming, perhaps it is better to simply
accept Nature as God.
This is the pantheist approach.

Here is an open minded versionhttp://www.pantheist.net/

Here is a version that claims to be scientifichttp://www.pantheism.net/

Or the Universe as God, that works also.

The classic mystic view is that God is the primal sort of ur-structure
which precedes all matter (e.g. the Universe) in the "sequence" of
existence. The world of physics is almost the outer-most "shell",
sitting almost next to "the Void" (another ancient mystic notion
according to which the Void is infinitely rigid, infinitely dense,
eternally unmoving and without extent - that's an almost direct
quote). The physical layer we call "the universe" is in a certain
sense extremely unlike the other layers ("spiritual") because its
forms are "frozen", "static", and "tense", or as if in a "petrified"
state. This rigidity is responsible for our ability to track physical
reality by external measurements of all kinds. So in a sense the
science of physics is the study of certain least-relevant (or rather
most irrelevant :-) ) aspects of cosmos treated as a whole.

The above is all super-old stuff.

--
Jan Bielawski

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"JanPB" wrote in message
...
| On May 4, 8:26 pm, Don Stockbauer wrote:
| On May 4, 8:26 pm, Surfer wrote:
|
|
|
| On Sun, 4 May 2008 04:06:23 -0700 (PDT), Smooth John
|
| wrote:
| Frankly, the major crimes you ever saw are because
| of science or accidents of science. More precise,
| medicine and physics. These two branches are the
| worst of them all, and nano-tech, not to forget. They are
| dangerous.
|
| They start innocently, posing innocent postulates, you
| cant get hurt by postulates, so you digest. The postulates
| may not agree with obserrvables, heck, they are postulates,
| what do you expect? Enough that them make sense in
| papers and sick brains.
|
| The postulates evolves in theories, which may not agree
| with their own postulates, does not matter, theories can
| be fixed in order to sell good.
|
| Why cant we just live in peace with nature, eating plants
| and living 1000 years? Why cant we just be quite?
|
| Nature is infinitely complex. When attempting to understand the
| complexity gets too overwhelming, perhaps it is better to simply
| accept Nature as God.
| This is the pantheist approach.
|
| Here is an open minded versionhttp://www.pantheist.net/
|
| Here is a version that claims to be
scientifichttp://www.pantheism.net/
|
| Or the Universe as God, that works also.
|
| The classic mystic view is that God is the primal sort of ur-structure
| which precedes all matter (e.g. the Universe) in the "sequence" of
| existence. The world of physics is almost the outer-most "shell",
| sitting almost next to "the Void" (another ancient mystic notion
| according to which the Void is infinitely rigid, infinitely dense,
| eternally unmoving and without extent - that's an almost direct
| quote). The physical layer we call "the universe" is in a certain
| sense extremely unlike the other layers ("spiritual") because its
| forms are "frozen", "static", and "tense", or as if in a "petrified"
| state. This rigidity is responsible for our ability to track physical
| reality by external measurements of all kinds. So in a sense the
| science of physics is the study of certain least-relevant (or rather
| most irrelevant :-) ) aspects of cosmos treated as a whole.
|
| The above is all super-old stuff.
Sure, you like you and your crazy beliefs.