On May 6, 2:37*pm, foolsrushout wrote:
wrote:
On May 6, 4:20 am, foolsrushout wrote:

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Uncertainty doesn't belong to physics if it can't be measured. It
belongs in the realm of idea alone.
The future is predictability.

The future is a series of statistical probabilities with
unknown and unknowable variables. .

If everything is statistical in nature then you are a statistic.

Here once again you read what you want to into a clear
statement, thereby modifying it to just another troll.

I didn't write that everything is statistical, I only
wrote that the future is a series of statistical
probabilities, etc.

Notwithstanding Billy Clinton's statement on the matter,
what is, is. How it came to be was the cumulative
consequences of a series of statistical probabilities,
etc.

You're sounding more and more autistic as these
discussions progress. If true, that certainly
clarifies matters.

I am the consequence of a series of statistical
probabilities with previously unknown and unknowable
variables.....

What I am is not a statistic. That I am, however, is
a statistic.

Is this discussion within your ability to grasp? I have
good reason to doubt you can.- Hide quoted text -

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There is no way to verify uncertainty in a quantifiable form.
Mitch Raemsch ; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

On May 6, 11:03*pm, Benj wrote:
On May 7, 1:38 am, wrote:

There is no way to verify uncertainty in a quantifiable form.
Mitch Raemsch ; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

Oh, *THIS is rich! ME defending the uncertainty principle!

But hey, Mitch, you are a moron.
Uncertainty most assuredly IS quantifiable. Never heard of Heisenberg
I take it? * The "uncertainty" of a coin flip is quantifiable. The
whole idea of an "uncertainty principle" comes right out of
mathematics and has been found to model much of reality quite well.
Take for example the relationship of wave train duration to the
accuracy with which it's frequency can be measured. It's all the same
thing and when viewed (as modern physics always does) as "this is all
we can know" it most assuredly IS valid and quantifiable!

The argument that statistics is merely the "science of ignorance"
however, is valid in that statistics merely represents an averaging
over events of which detailed knowledge is absent. Given that detailed
knowledge and the basis for statisical approximations suddenly become
clear.

As for claiming that the future is fixed, that does not follow at all
from these arguments. It's simply a misapplication of one theory to a
region where it does not apply.

Benj: Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
[Once Raemsch was shown to be a fraud and the prizes were revoked and
awarded to someone else]

Uncertainty cannot be measured so it remains in the realm of an
unverifiable idea. It no longer belongs in physics.

Mitch Raemsch Twice Nob el Laureate 2008