On Apr 27, 3:53*am, Sanny wrote:
When Sun and Earth are attracting each other why do Earth not fall on
Sun.

When we throw a big Stone in air It will Fall Back on Earth.
Simmilarly For Sun Earth is just a piece of Rock? Who do this big rock
Earth Fall onto the Sun Just like the Stones which we throw in air
just come back and hit the Earth?

Simmilarly why not the Moon fall on Earth by the Gravity attration?

Why are the planets revolving round the sun for so many years instead
of just falling onto the Sun?

When we visit Moon on a Rocket Our Rocket Just Falls on Surface of
moon So why these heavenly bodies not falling on Bigger one?

Bye
Sanny

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You assume the Earth isn't moving but it is. So one can also ask as
the Earth is moving very fast why doesn't it leave the sun behind?

Here is how it works,

1. The speed of the Earth means that the Earth will keep travling away
from the Sun.

2. The gravity of the sun means the Earth will be pulled into it.

The answer is as both A and B are right they split the difference and
the Earth does not move away from the sun or fall into it. It stays
the same distance away.

flamestar wrote:


The answer is as both A and B are right they split the difference and
the Earth does not move away from the sun or fall into it. It stays
the same distance away.


Not true. The earth has an eliptical orbit.

Bob Kolker

On Apr 27, 10:22*am, "Robert J. Kolker" wrote:
flamestar wrote:
The answer is as both A and B are right they split the difference and
the Earth does not move away from the sun or fall into it. It stays
the same distance away.

Not true.
The earth has an eliptical orbit.
Bob Kolker


Not true the earth does not have an elliptical orbit because it
wobbles in its orbit. You are a person who so hates the truth that you
seek to prevent people from understanding scientific principles by
bring up irrelevant details. The world is an evil place because you
are in it.

flamestar wrote:
Not true the earth does not have an elliptical orbit because it
wobbles in its orbit. You are a person who so hates the truth that you
seek to prevent people from understanding scientific principles by
bring up irrelevant details. The world is an evil place because you
are in it.

In any case the earth orbit is not circular.

Bob Kolker

In oh-so-very-human 3-D,
the earth's orbit has angular momentum and “ action � is conserved;
not so in the ( unimaginable ) 4-D world that's intrinsic to nature.

The earth is moving in a staight line.. but spacetime is curved.
The spacetime continuum is also known as hyperspace,
i.e. the 4-D gravitational field, a hyperstructure.

Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
When a system is fully known it can be modeled in 4-D;
otherwise its a 3-D model or ( worse ) a statistical model.

For some light reading on this topic see
this philosophical novel about World War II and 4-D hyperspace:
“ Slaughterhouse-Five;
or, The Children's Crusade: A Duty-Dance With Death �.

Einstein said:
“ I see a pattern,
but my imagination cannot picture the maker of that pattern.
I see a clock, but I cannot envision the clockmaker.

The human mind is unable to conceive of the four dimensions,

so how can it conceive of a God,
before whom a thousand years and a thousand dimensions are as one ? �.
-- “ The Expanded Quotable Einstein �,
Princeton University Press, 2000 Page 208

Petkov ( 2005 ) has this to say:
“ This paper pursues two aims.

First, to show that the block universe view, regarding the universe as
a timelessly existing four-dimensional world,
is the only one that is consistent with special relativity.

Second, to argue that special relativity alone can resolve
the debate on whether the world is
three-dimensional or four-dimensional.

The argument advanced in the paper is that
if the world were three-dimensional

the kinematic consequences of special relativity and more importantly
the experiments confirming them would be impossible. �.

-- “ Is There an Alternative to the Block Universe View ? �
http://Philsci-Archive.Pitt.EDU/archive/00002408/

From Einstein's, " Ether and the Theory of Relativity " ( 1920 )
quoted at " http://TUHH.DE/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html ":

" But this ether may not be thought of as
endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

The idea of motion may not be applied to it. ".

Jeffâ–²Relf wrote:
In oh-so-very-human 3-D,
the earth's orbit has angular momentum and “ action � is conserved;
not so in the ( unimaginable ) 4-D world that's intrinsic to nature.

The earth is moving in a staight line.. but spacetime is curved.
The spacetime continuum is also known as hyperspace,
i.e. the 4-D gravitational field, a hyperstructure.

Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
When a system is fully known it can be modeled in 4-D;
otherwise its a 3-D model or ( worse ) a statistical model.

For some light reading on this topic see
this philosophical novel about World War II and 4-D hyperspace:
“ Slaughterhouse-Five;
or, The Children's Crusade: A Duty-Dance With Death �.

Einstein said:
“ I see a pattern,
but my imagination cannot picture the maker of that pattern.
I see a clock, but I cannot envision the clockmaker.

The human mind is unable to conceive of the four dimensions,

so how can it conceive of a God,
before whom a thousand years and a thousand dimensions are as one ? �.
-- “ The Expanded Quotable Einstein �,
Princeton University Press, 2000 Page 208

Petkov ( 2005 ) has this to say:
“ This paper pursues two aims.

First, to show that the block universe view, regarding the universe as
a timelessly existing four-dimensional world,
is the only one that is consistent with special relativity.

Second, to argue that special relativity alone can resolve
the debate on whether the world is
three-dimensional or four-dimensional.

The argument advanced in the paper is that
if the world were three-dimensional

the kinematic consequences of special relativity and more importantly
the experiments confirming them would be impossible. �.

-- “ Is There an Alternative to the Block Universe View ? �
http://Philsci-Archive.Pitt.EDU/archive/00002408/

From Einstein's, " Ether and the Theory of Relativity " ( 1920 )
quoted at " http://TUHH.DE/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html ":

" But this ether may not be thought of as
endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

The idea of motion may not be applied to it. ".


You are Richard Hoagland, AICMF£!
--
ah

"Uncle rect-Al" Schwartz wrote in message
... to

Jeff?Relf who wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...bff375a936330b
[snip crap]

rect-Al wrote:
http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
Dunning-Kruger effect (2000 Ig Nobel Prize): ignorance more
frequently begets confidence than does knowledge


hanson wrote:
that (link above) shows a perfect characterization of rect-Al's
cyber existence... Good choice. You are an honest dude, Al.

rect-Al wrote:
1) Incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of
skill.

hanson wrote:
so, rect-Al shows here how he does it competently and accurately:
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg

rect-Al wrote:
2) Incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in others.

hanson wrote:
rect-Al refers by "others" to himself & shows how to recognize him:
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg

rect-Al wrote:
3) Incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their
inadequacy.


hanson wrote:
and so, rect-Al shows here what he does in order not to fail:
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg

rect-Al wrote:
Idiot.

hanson wrote:
rect-Al discovered his "idiot mantra" about himself in he
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg.
recty-Al constantly checks and repeats it to spread the good
news about himself:... he, rect-Al being the mother of all idiots.

Thanks for the laughs, schmuck... ahahaha... ahahahanson

ah wrote:
Jeff?Relf wrote:
In oh-so-very-human 3-D,
the earth's orbit has angular momentum and ³ action ² is conserved;
not so in the ( unimaginable ) 4-D world that's intrinsic to nature.

The earth is moving in a staight line.. but spacetime is curved.
The spacetime continuum is also known as hyperspace,
i.e. the 4-D gravitational field, a hyperstructure.

Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
When a system is fully known it can be modeled in 4-D;
otherwise its a 3-D model or ( worse ) a statistical model.

For some light reading on this topic see
this philosophical novel about World War II and 4-D hyperspace:
³ Slaughterhouse-Five;
or, The Children's Crusade: A Duty-Dance With Death ².

Einstein said:
³ I see a pattern,
but my imagination cannot picture the maker of that pattern.
I see a clock, but I cannot envision the clockmaker.

The human mind is unable to conceive of the four dimensions,

so how can it conceive of a God,
before whom a thousand years and a thousand dimensions are as one ? ².
-- ³ The Expanded Quotable Einstein ²,
Princeton University Press, 2000 Page 208

Petkov ( 2005 ) has this to say:
³ This paper pursues two aims.

First, to show that the block universe view, regarding the universe as
a timelessly existing four-dimensional world,
is the only one that is consistent with special relativity.

Second, to argue that special relativity alone can resolve
the debate on whether the world is
three-dimensional or four-dimensional.

The argument advanced in the paper is that
if the world were three-dimensional

the kinematic consequences of special relativity and more importantly
the experiments confirming them would be impossible. ².

-- ³ Is There an Alternative to the Block Universe View ? ²
http://Philsci-Archive.Pitt.EDU/archive/00002408/

From Einstein's, " Ether and the Theory of Relativity " ( 1920 )
quoted at " http://TUHH.DE/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html ":

" But this ether may not be thought of as
endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

The idea of motion may not be applied to it. ".


You are Richard Hoagland, AICMF£!

Did someone mention Hoaxy?

http://www.enterprisemission.com/

http://www.enterprisemission.com/pasadena2.html

http://www.enterprisemission.com/isis.htm

http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon3.htm

--
"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic]
should be your concern, Deco."
-- David Tholen

ah wrote:
Art Deco wrote:
ah wrote:
Jeff?Relf wrote:
In oh-so-very-human 3-D,
the earth's orbit has angular momentum and ³ action ² is conserved;
not so in the ( unimaginable ) 4-D world that's intrinsic to nature.

The earth is moving in a staight line.. but spacetime is curved.
The spacetime continuum is also known as hyperspace,
i.e. the 4-D gravitational field, a hyperstructure.

Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
When a system is fully known it can be modeled in 4-D;
otherwise its a 3-D model or ( worse ) a statistical model.

For some light reading on this topic see
this philosophical novel about World War II and 4-D hyperspace:
³ Slaughterhouse-Five;
or, The Children's Crusade: A Duty-Dance With Death ².

Einstein said:
³ I see a pattern,
but my imagination cannot picture the maker of that pattern.
I see a clock, but I cannot envision the clockmaker.

The human mind is unable to conceive of the four dimensions,

so how can it conceive of a God,
before whom a thousand years and a thousand dimensions are as one ? ².
-- ³ The Expanded Quotable Einstein ²,
Princeton University Press, 2000 Page 208

Petkov ( 2005 ) has this to say:
³ This paper pursues two aims.

First, to show that the block universe view, regarding the universe as
a timelessly existing four-dimensional world,
is the only one that is consistent with special relativity.

Second, to argue that special relativity alone can resolve
the debate on whether the world is
three-dimensional or four-dimensional.

The argument advanced in the paper is that
if the world were three-dimensional

the kinematic consequences of special relativity and more importantly
the experiments confirming them would be impossible. ².

-- ³ Is There an Alternative to the Block Universe View ? ²
http://Philsci-Archive.Pitt.EDU/archive/00002408/

From Einstein's, " Ether and the Theory of Relativity " ( 1920 )
quoted at " http://TUHH.DE/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html ":

" But this ether may not be thought of as
endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

The idea of motion may not be applied to it. ".


You are Richard Hoagland, AICMF£!

Did someone mention Hoaxy?

http://www.enterprisemission.com/

http://www.enterprisemission.com/pasadena2.html

http://www.enterprisemission.com/isis.htm

http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon3.htm

I like Cydonia 'cause The Orb does!

http://www.aural-innovations.com/iss.../theorb01.html

A porpoise? It's gotta be the Darla socks?

--
"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic]
should be your concern, Deco."
-- David Tholen

On Apr 27, 7:25*pm, "Robert J. Kolker" wrote:
flamestar wrote:
Not true the earth does not have an elliptical orbit because it
wobbles in its orbit. You are a person who so hates the truth that you
seek to prevent people from understanding scientific principles by
bring up irrelevant details. The world is an evil place because you
are in it.

In any case the earth orbit is not circular.

Bob Kolker

You are right. I and I appoligize but I simpified what I said because
I was trying to explain something to someone who is feebleminded.