as I just stated, above,
it is only evidence of a hasty production, and
perfectly admissable for the sake of realism,
for the get-it-done philosophy of a skunkworks e.g. (or i.e.;
would have to contact Dick Hoagland,
he of the "that's a Howitzer on Mars" pre-heart-attack conklusion,
for verification of the hollywoodite outfit that done the sims for TV;
what network was that ?-)

that been filmed on Earth there is no director alive who could have
resisted the temptation to shout 'CUT! Let's get it right this time'

It actually very good evidence. *There is no point
trying to convince these crackpots with science.

thus:
are you saying that Hitler was part of a "UFO" cult, or
just you ones who just recently bought the saucer and
compleat tea-set?... surely,
you've heard the official definition of "technology"
of the Holy British Empire viz-a-vu Potterism;
Sir Arthur's?

I mean, U"F"O is a misnomer, anyway -- especially
with regard to Venus, by-far the most common sighting
of disheveled fighter-plane pilots: vertigo,
in other word, if only momentary.

Earth will be fine. You are what needs to be fixed. Our ET friends knew

thus:
so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?
Where's Venus (from orbit or surface EVA) as of missions A-11, A-14
and A-16?

--Harry of Darfuria, Episode 8 (Deuterocanonicos):
the Prisoners of the Guantanamo Episcopate/poolcess!
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050..._food_res.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/080426gore_ethanol.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...ls_v_food.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050...larouches.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...rank_hbpa.html

"We Cesspools are not to be sniffed at!"
—Lady Cesspool in Al Capp's "Li'l Abner" Cartoon Strip

your virtual bridge "o'erlooking" Venus -- pay attention:
as far as naked-eye or peripheral-to-astronaut-hopping view,
Venus is a completely variable star; so,
its approx. relative brightness'd be easily determinable
by a view "from above" the ecliptic plane
of the inner solar system -- trigonometrically -- even if
JPL didn't bother with the "actual viewing conditions" on Moon.

so, where is the primal light-source for your ray-tracing
algorithm?... I mean,
you might have to re-take that trig course!

The bridge on Venus?

thus:
as I just stated, above,
it is only evidence of a hasty production, and
perfectly admissable for the sake of realism,
for the get-it-done philosophy of a skunkworks e.g. (or i.e.;
would have to contact Dick Hoagland,
he of the "that's a Howitzer on Mars" pre-heart-attack conklusion,
for verification of the hollywoodite outfit that done the sims for TV;
what network was that ?-)

Where's Venus (from orbit or surface EVA) as of missions A-11, A-14
and A-16?

--Harry of Darfuria, Episode 8 (Deuterocanonicos):
the Prisoners of the Guantanamo Episcopate/poolcess!
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050..._food_res.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/080426gore_ethanol.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...ls_v_food.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050...larouches.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...rank_hbpa.html

"We Cesspools are not to be sniffed at!"

On May 12, 12:28 pm, Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum
wrote:
your virtual bridge "o'erlooking" Venus -- pay attention:
as far as naked-eye or peripheral-to-astronaut-hopping view,
Venus is a completely variable star; so,
its approx. relative brightness'd be easily determinable
by a view "from above" the ecliptic plane
of the inner solar system -- trigonometrically -- even if
JPL didn't bother with the "actual viewing conditions" on Moon.

so, where is the primal light-source for your ray-tracing
algorithm?... I mean,
you might have to re-take that trig course!

The bridge on Venus?

thus:
as I just stated, above,
it is only evidence of a hasty production, and
perfectly admissable for the sake of realism,
for the get-it-done philosophy of a skunkworks e.g. (or i.e.;
would have to contact Dick Hoagland,
he of the "that's a Howitzer on Mars" pre-heart-attack conklusion,
for verification of the hollywoodite outfit that done the sims for TV;
what network was that ?-)

Where's Venus (from orbit or surface EVA) as of missions A-11, A-14
and A-16?

--Harry of Darfuria, Episode 8 (Deuterocanonicos):
the Prisoners of the Guantanamo Episcopate/poolcess!http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050...rank_hbpa.html

"We Cesspools are not to be sniffed at!"

What's the silly matter this time?

Is your fully interactive 3D orbital simulator broken, or is it merely
lost along with those 700 boxes of most all your NASA/Apollo mission
data?

A half smart 5th grader could run a PC/MAC based orbital simulator,
and as such deductively concur that you and others of your infowar/
infomercial spewing kind are nothing but a pack of certified born-
again liars.
.. - Brad Guth

On Mon, 12 May 2008 11:42:20 -0700 (PDT), Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum
wrote:

Earth will be fine. *You are what needs to be fixed. *Our ET friends knew

thus:
so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?

Um, er, no. Is Ron Paul still running?

And where can I get my car fitted with a hydrogen fuel cell?
You'd think someone would start a big biz doing that.
People would be lined up for hundreds of miles to get one.

On May 12, 3:36 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2008 11:42:20 -0700 (PDT), Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum

wrote:
Earth will be fine. You are what needs to be fixed. Our ET friends knew

thus:
so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?

Um, er, no. Is Ron Paul still running?

And where can I get my car fitted with a hydrogen fuel cell?
You'd think someone would start a big biz doing that.
People would be lined up for hundreds of miles to get one.

Our resident hydrogen wizard William Mook will filler-up, and dirt
cheap none the less. All you have to do is somehow manage to live for
another couple decades before his first commercial tonne of hydrogen
becomes available. Of course by than fossil and/or synfuel fuel might
be going for $25/gallon.

If we all had the “USA inflation adjusted” income to go along with our
“USA inflation adjusted price of gasoline”, as such there wouldn’t
hardly be any problem, whereas I too could manage to get by on that
USA inflation adjusted income of $10,000/month after federal tax, in
personal loot (same as $156.25/mo as of 64 years ago).

How much were you earning (take home pay) as of 64 years ago?

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-003.pdf
“i n 1946 and resided in nonfarm areas was about $2,100 as compared
with $1,000 for women”

Divide that average income roughly in half for the typical nonwhite or
farm worker (this only applies to the nonfamily employed worker
because, the bulk of whatever the local/farm family member received
was paid via room and board).

Since I would have been much higher paid than average, by at least
twice that average of $175/month, makes my 1946 earnings worth $350/
month. Now multiply that by 64 = $22,400/month.

As I’d said, there’s no great problem with spending $5/gallon, as long
as I had the after tax take-home loot of $22,400/month to spend.

Of course that still doesn't fix a damn thing for most other places on
Earth, that are simply getting summarily screwed left and right, as
well as top to bottom, by the fossil fuel sucking and global inflation
likes of yourself. And here many sit and wonder, as to why Muslims
and a few too many other nice and low carbon footprint kind of folks
are a little ****ed.

Pay me 64 times that much in take-home pay as of 64 years ago, and
we’re perfectly good to go at $5/gallon.

I wonder if our fellow spook/mole rusemasters of newsgroups even know
the meaning of _duh_?
. – Brad Guth

On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:01:05 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
wrote:

On May 12, 3:36 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2008 11:42:20 -0700 (PDT), Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum

wrote:
Earth will be fine. You are what needs to be fixed. Our ET friends knew

thus:
so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?

Um, er, no. Is Ron Paul still running?

And where can I get my car fitted with a hydrogen fuel cell?
You'd think someone would start a big biz doing that.
People would be lined up for hundreds of miles to get one.

Our resident hydrogen wizard William Mook will filler-up, and dirt
cheap none the less. All you have to do is somehow manage to live for
another couple decades before his first commercial tonne of hydrogen
becomes available. Of course by than fossil and/or synfuel fuel might
be going for $25/gallon.

Nah, oil is nearly depleted. And HHO has been known to be a fuel for, what,
maybe 80 years?

If we all had the “USA inflation adjusted” income to go along with our
“USA inflation adjusted price of gasoline”, as such there wouldn’t
hardly be any problem, whereas I too could manage to get by on that
USA inflation adjusted income of $10,000/month after federal tax, in
personal loot (same as $156.25/mo as of 64 years ago).

Um, free energy will make everything cheap. You won't need an increase in
salary. And the internet will provide the free communication. Those com
companies won't last much longer on a fiat currency.

How much were you earning (take home pay) as of 64 years ago?

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-003.pdf
“i n 1946 and resided in nonfarm areas was about $2,100 as compared
with $1,000 for women”

Divide that average income roughly in half for the typical nonwhite or
farm worker (this only applies to the nonfamily employed worker
because, the bulk of whatever the local/farm family member received
was paid via room and board).

Since I would have been much higher paid than average, by at least
twice that average of $175/month, makes my 1946 earnings worth $350/
month. Now multiply that by 64 = $22,400/month.

As I’d said, there’s no great problem with spending $5/gallon, as long
as I had the after tax take-home loot of $22,400/month to spend.

Of course that still doesn't fix a damn thing for most other places on
Earth, that are simply getting summarily screwed left and right, as
well as top to bottom, by the fossil fuel sucking and global inflation
likes of yourself. And here many sit and wonder, as to why Muslims
and a few too many other nice and low carbon footprint kind of folks
are a little ****ed.

Pay me 64 times that much in take-home pay as of 64 years ago, and
we’re perfectly good to go at $5/gallon.

I wonder if our fellow spook/mole rusemasters of newsgroups even know
the meaning of _duh_?
. – Brad Guth

On May 12, 4:14 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:01:05 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
wrote:



On May 12, 3:36 wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2008 11:42:20 -0700 (PDT), Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum

wrote:
Earth will be fine. You are what needs to be fixed. Our ET friends knew

thus:
so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?

Um, er, no. Is Ron Paul still running?

And where can I get my car fitted with a hydrogen fuel cell?
You'd think someone would start a big biz doing that.
People would be lined up for hundreds of miles to get one.

Our resident hydrogen wizard William Mook will filler-up, and dirt
cheap none the less. All you have to do is somehow manage to live for
another couple decades before his first commercial tonne of hydrogen
becomes available. Of course by than fossil and/or synfuel fuel might
be going for $25/gallon.

Nah, oil is nearly depleted. And HHO has been known to be a fuel for, what,
maybe 80 years?

If we all had the “USA inflation adjusted” income to go along with our
“USA inflation adjusted price of gasoline”, as such there wouldn’t
hardly be any problem, whereas I too could manage to get by on that
USA inflation adjusted income of $10,000/month after federal tax, in
personal loot (same as $156.25/mo as of 64 years ago).

Um, free energy will make everything cheap. You won't need an increase in
salary. And the internet will provide the free communication. Those com
companies won't last much longer on a fiat currency.

How much were you earning (take home pay) as of 64 years ago?

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-003.pdf
“i n 1946 and resided in nonfarm areas was about $2,100 as compared
with $1,000 for women”

Divide that average income roughly in half for the typical nonwhite or
farm worker (this only applies to the nonfamily employed worker
because, the bulk of whatever the local/farm family member received
was paid via room and board).

Since I would have been much higher paid than average, by at least
twice that average of $175/month, makes my 1946 earnings worth $350/
month. Now multiply that by 64 = $22,400/month.

As I’d said, there’s no great problem with spending $5/gallon, as long
as I had the after tax take-home loot of $22,400/month to spend.

Of course that still doesn't fix a damn thing for most other places on
Earth, that are simply getting summarily screwed left and right, as
well as top to bottom, by the fossil fuel sucking and global inflation
likes of yourself. And here many sit and wonder, as to why Muslims
and a few too many other nice and low carbon footprint kind of folks
are a little ****ed.

Pay me 64 times that much in take-home pay as of 64 years ago, and
we’re perfectly good to go at $5/gallon.

I wonder if our fellow spook/mole rusemasters of newsgroups even know
the meaning of _duh_?
. – Brad Guth

Free energy would certainly resolve most every conceivable problem
that's causing us grief. Apparently you haven't heard of ENRON or
ExxonMobile.

I know of how to create and deliver 100 terawatts of affordably clean
energy that's fully renewable, that'll support 1e10 folks in good
style with energy to burn (so to speak). However, the likes of ENRON
and ExxonMobile will make damn certain WWIII comes before there's any
such cheap and much less renewable energy.
. - Brad Guth

On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:01:05 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
wrote:

synfuel fuel

Ethanol won't last long as a fuel substitute After the first food riots
break out in the USA, that land will go back to producing food.

There's a lot of good things to say about a food embargo to the USA. Those
countries producing food need to keep the food for their own people rather
than feeding the Zionist war machine.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:38:29 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
wrote:

Free energy would certainly resolve most every conceivable problem
that's causing us grief.

Yes. The other thing which is causing you grief is a fiat monetary system.

Apparently you haven't heard of ENRON or
ExxonMobile.

Neither of which can exit without a fiat currency.

I know of how to create and deliver 100 terawatts of affordably clean
energy that's fully renewable, that'll support 1e10 folks in good
style with energy to burn (so to speak). However, the likes of ENRON
and ExxonMobile will make damn certain WWIII comes before there's any
such cheap and much less renewable energy.

Yes, yes, we all know about the nuclear blackmail by Israel and the US --
they're constantly threatening to nuke everyone. Israel is already
radioactive by it's own hand. They will never be able to live there -- the
water table is radioactive and polluted for the next 4.5 billion years. If
they elect to stay there, there will be no live births. Besides, ww3 won't
be nuclear -- it will be electromagnetic pulse using advanced weapon systems
which do not use missiles. One strike over the middle east, and it's all
over but the shouting -- every oil pump, every thing electric will be
rendered useless. They know this, and neither Israel, the UK or the USA
have a defense against this. It is impossible (nearing zero) that Israel
and it's Zionist bankers will survive. They may as well just take it like a
champ and watch their fiat currency system collapse. If anyone gets handy
with the nukes, they'll get creamed.

On May 12, 4:56 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com wrote:

Yes, yes, we all know about the nuclear blackmail by Israel and the US --
they're constantly threatening to nuke everyone. Israel is already
radioactive by it's own hand. They will never be able to live there -- the
water table is radioactive and polluted for the next 4.5 billion years. If
they elect to stay there, there will be no live births. Besides, ww3 won't
be nuclear -- it will be electromagnetic pulse using advanced weapon systems
which do not use missiles. One strike over the middle east, and it's all
over but the shouting -- every oil pump, every thing electric will be
rendered useless. They know this, and neither Israel, the UK or the USA
have a defense against this. It is impossible (nearing zero) that Israel
and it's Zionist bankers will survive. They may as well just take it like a
champ and watch their fiat currency system collapse. If anyone gets handy
with the nukes, they'll get creamed.

They will most likely have to use VX, just to cut the world population
by 90%, especially once most everything electronic fails to function.

"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
The Rothschilds as German Zionist/Nazi definitely had their control of
our past, in much the same way as DARPA and Bacardi maintain their
more recent grip on their past, present and future, as well as their
firm grasp of our private parts.
.. - Brad Guth