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BradGuth wrote:
On May 8, 3:13 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote: BradGuth wrote: On May 8, 12:50 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote: On May 8, 1:23 am, Martin Hogbin wrote: Telling our resident spook/mole "Martin Hogbin" the actual truth and nothing but the truth You have told me nothing, except that there were around 1000 conspirators. I eagerly await the rest of the 'truth'. I assume you'd want specific names, places, dates and the usual hour by hour of every tidbit of any paper trail as to where all this cloak and dagger cold-war effort and subsequent DARPA/NASA loot went. All I want is a description of how you believe they faked the landings? On the other hand, why exactly do you care either way? (are you one of those at risk?) You seem to the one who cares. Martin Hogbin |
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BradGuth wrote:
On May 8, 3:10 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote: Koobee Wublee wrote: On May 8, 1:23 am, Martin Hogbin wrote: I've posted many theories as to the NASA/Apollo moon landing hoax, all of which based upon the regular laws of physics and best available science, Why many theories? We only need one good one. Give me your best shot. Martin HOgbin |
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BradGuth writes:
On May 9, 8:09 am, (Michael Moroney) wrote: Not only is the moon physically dark as coal, but also highly saturated in solar UV. Go figure how such unfiltered Kodak moments entirely failed to respond to the unavoidable secondary/recoil flood of the bluish hue or black light generated tint of weird color saturation. I don't know much about photography (probably obvious from my original note to someone who does), but even I know the answer to this one. It's called an UV filter for the camera lens. They had no such UV filters other than incorporated within the basic lens, I never claimed they went to the nearest camera shop for a UV filter. Certainly they were custom or semicustom cameras of some sort designed for use on the moon, including being in an environment with solar UV. of which has nothing to do with filtering out those secondary/ recoil photons created by such UV energy. Kodak film is not like a CCD and of ts photoshop like image recording process, whereas instead it takes a sharp spectrum cutoff filter and/ or narrow bandpass optical element in order to moderate or exclude the unavoidable bluish/purple tint of the locally skewed hue saturation. Some sort of fluorescence? If so, we'd see it from Earth, and the Moon would appear bluish/purple in the night sky. Heck, the Earth's atmosphere might do the same. (AHA! That's the real reason the sky is blue!!!) It's exactly as though xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated, isn't it. Or the sun. I don't know of any way to tell that apart from the photos. The raw sun is nothing remotely like a xenon arc lamp spectrum. How can one tell from still photos or television video from the Apollo program? Obviously you know next to nothing about such matters, and yet you also refuse to educate yourself. So what's the difference? Wrong. Why do you think I asked about the photos in the first place? I saw an inconsistancy and asked about it. You can do your own hourly math on those to/from Van Allen belt dosage amounts. There's roughly a 75,000 km trek each way, so that's 150,000 km worth of Van Allen badlands (not including whatever is outside or being anywhere near that naked and thus reactive moon of ours). What was their average speed? (1.5 km/s?) Say twice that velocity while going to/from through the Van Allen zones = 13+ hours. Wikipedia states an object shielded with 3 mm of aluminum is exposed to 2,500 rem per year. That results in 0.285 rem per hour or 3.7 rem for the trip. Thanks. Off to see what 3.7 rem does to you. LEO rems are not quite the same thing as GSO/(Van Allen) rems. That 2,500 rem per year figure was for the Van Allen belt. I was trusting that your figures for the distance and speed and thus time were reasonably accurate. You do realize that Dr. Van Allen was on record as 100% opposed to human space travels as trekking through or even outside of the protective magnetosphere, don't you? A very cautious man. Even extremely short term exposures have consequences to our frail DNA, far greater than anything NASA/Apollo ever reported. REM is REM, right? (Roentgen Equivalent for Man) Are you claiming the 3.7 rem figure is wrong or 3.7 rem is much more dangerous than claimed? So, why don't you tell us why our DARPA (aka Semitic Third Reich) and of their NASA puppets lied to us. If you're going to post kook crap, don't bother replying to me. I just quit debating a couple other kooks as a waste of time, I have no need to start with another. |
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On May 9, 11:23 am, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote: On May 8, 3:13 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote: BradGuth wrote: On May 8, 12:50 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote: On May 8, 1:23 am, Martin Hogbin wrote: Telling our resident spook/mole "Martin Hogbin" the actual truth and nothing but the truth You have told me nothing, except that there were around 1000 conspirators. I eagerly await the rest of the 'truth'. I assume you'd want specific names, places, dates and the usual hour by hour of every tidbit of any paper trail as to where all this cloak and dagger cold-war effort and subsequent DARPA/NASA loot went. All I want is a description of how you believe they faked the landings? On the other hand, why exactly do you care either way? (are you one of those at risk?) You seem to the one who cares. Martin Hogbin Isolated/private terrestrial guano island, xenon arc lamps, and the very best of film and video expertise of that era. Plus having all the necessary logistics of support services that we taxpayers and energy consumers could muster. Some of their work was of course studio accomplished, and most all of their film/video editing was of course kept as DARPA secret and as staff limited as they could make it. BTW, didn't you ever hear about our mutually perpetrated cold-war, and of the dirty tricks from each side? .. - Brad Guth |
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On May 9, 11:16 am, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote: On May 8, 3:08 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote: BradGuth wrote: On May 8, 12:36 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote: BradGuth wrote: Well, we are making progress. About a thousand conspirators, you say. They did pretty much everything except land upon and EVA walk upon our physically dark and nasty moon. Are you saying that US astronauts orbited the moon? Martin Hogbin I'm thinking A-13 was doable, but that's about as good as it ever gets. There was no real problem(s) or technical fault with mission A-13. The other missions had simply gone to/from the moon's L1, at least as far as any crew of astronauts ever got, other than A-13. .. - Brad Guth |
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On May 9, 11:26 am, (Michael Moroney)
wrote: BradGuth writes: On May 9, 8:09 am, (Michael Moroney) wrote: Not only is the moon physically dark as coal, but also highly saturated in solar UV. Go figure how such unfiltered Kodak moments entirely failed to respond to the unavoidable secondary/recoil flood of the bluish hue or black light generated tint of weird color saturation. I don't know much about photography (probably obvious from my original note to someone who does), but even I know the answer to this one. It's called an UV filter for the camera lens. They had no such UV filters other than incorporated within the basic lens, I never claimed they went to the nearest camera shop for a UV filter. Certainly they were custom or semicustom cameras of some sort designed for use on the moon, including being in an environment with solar UV. of which has nothing to do with filtering out those secondary/ recoil photons created by such UV energy. Kodak film is not like a CCD and of ts photoshop like image recording process, whereas instead it takes a sharp spectrum cutoff filter and/ or narrow bandpass optical element in order to moderate or exclude the unavoidable bluish/purple tint of the locally skewed hue saturation. Some sort of fluorescence? If so, we'd see it from Earth, and the Moon would appear bluish/purple in the night sky. Heck, the Earth's atmosphere might do the same. (AHA! That's the real reason the sky is blue!!!) It's exactly as though xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated, isn't it. Or the sun. I don't know of any way to tell that apart from the photos. The raw sun is nothing remotely like a xenon arc lamp spectrum. How can one tell from still photos or television video from the Apollo program? Obviously you know next to nothing about such matters, and yet you also refuse to educate yourself. So what's the difference? Wrong. Why do you think I asked about the photos in the first place? I saw an inconsistancy and asked about it. You can do your own hourly math on those to/from Van Allen belt dosage amounts. There's roughly a 75,000 km trek each way, so that's 150,000 km worth of Van Allen badlands (not including whatever is outside or being anywhere near that naked and thus reactive moon of ours). What was their average speed? (1.5 km/s?) Say twice that velocity while going to/from through the Van Allen zones = 13+ hours. Wikipedia states an object shielded with 3 mm of aluminum is exposed to 2,500 rem per year. That results in 0.285 rem per hour or 3.7 rem for the trip. Thanks. Off to see what 3.7 rem does to you. LEO rems are not quite the same thing as GSO/(Van Allen) rems. That 2,500 rem per year figure was for the Van Allen belt. I was trusting that your figures for the distance and speed and thus time were reasonably accurate. You do realize that Dr. Van Allen was on record as 100% opposed to human space travels as trekking through or even outside of the protective magnetosphere, don't you? A very cautious man. Even extremely short term exposures have consequences to our frail DNA, far greater than anything NASA/Apollo ever reported. REM is REM, right? (Roentgen Equivalent for Man) Are you claiming the 3.7 rem figure is wrong or 3.7 rem is much more dangerous than claimed? So, why don't you tell us why our DARPA (aka Semitic Third Reich) and of their NASA puppets lied to us. If you're going to post kook crap, don't bother replying to me. I just quit debating a couple other kooks as a waste of time, I have no need to start with another. You don't have to take my word for it. Take the words and pictures from JAXA and CNSA. I've got a few copies and official links (would you like to see?) Obviously your nose is extremely mainstream status quo brown. .. - Brad Guth |
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BradGuth writes:
BTW, didn't you ever hear about our mutually perpetrated cold-war, and of the dirty tricks from each side? The Cold War at the time was largely about who was technically superior. It's why there was a "space race", part of which was Apollo. The USSR would have just *loved* to prove the moon landings were all a hoax, if they could. Why didn't they? |
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Michael Moroney a écrit :
BradGuth writes: BTW, didn't you ever hear about our mutually perpetrated cold-war, and of the dirty tricks from each side? The Cold War at the time was largely about who was technically superior. It's why there was a "space race", part of which was Apollo. The USSR would have just *loved* to prove the moon landings were all a hoax, if they could. Why didn't they? The Chinese did say it was a hoax. But they couldn't prove it... |
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"Martin Hogbin" wrote in message ... | Que? | Martin Hogbin Your brevity matches your knowledge, Pigbin. Not only do we have one line responses from you but you are now down to one word responses. Keep it up, mutton, and you'll disappear altogether. |
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BradGuth wrote:
On May 9, 11:16 am, Martin Hogbin wrote: BradGuth wrote: On May 8, 3:08 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote: BradGuth wrote: On May 8, 12:36 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote: BradGuth wrote: Well, we are making progress. About a thousand conspirators, you say. They did pretty much everything except land upon and EVA walk upon our physically dark and nasty moon. Are you saying that US astronauts orbited the moon? I'm thinking A-13 was doable, but that's about as good as it ever gets. Can you answer my question. Did US astronauts orbit the moon? Martin Hogbin |
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