so, since we don't want you to get out of your simsuit
to verify any thing -- you have to *code* your way out
of this wordproblemma, supplimenting the JPL freeware --
please, by observation "above the plane
of the ecliptic" in your sim, what is the maximum angular distance
of Venus from Sun -- what do they call that 90-degree relation
in astrology?

I'm counting on you to do it, because
I'm afraid of sims, myself -- vertigo!

thus:
there is no curvature in timespace per se;
it is simply phase-space, an artifact of mathematics (and
making an infinite "time axis" on a *big* piece of paper .-)

see the treatment of SR by Lancsoz in _Variational Mechanics_
(Dover) -- explain it to me!

He didn't. It was Minkowski who actually formulated SR as a
manifestation of curvature in a spacetime manifold. Minkowski was a

What curvature is defined in SR?

--Harry of Darfuria, Episode 9 (Deuterocanonicos):
Prisoners of the Guantanamo Episcopate/poolcess!...
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050..._food_res.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/080426gore_ethanol.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...ls_v_food.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050...larouches.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...rank_hbpa.html

what were your "remaining doubts" ...
magnified by IMAX production?

mister inflation, BG, doesn't seem to get it,
that 1/6 Earth g. goes
a long way to soft landings. as for reaction wheels,
every rocketship has at least one of them,
plus spares, for inertial nav;
think those aren't significant torque, and
not perfectly useful for steering, two?

also, wouldn't the thick dust create a nice,
positive feedback against the main rocket?

But then I have seen the official movie two weeks ago in LA of the landing
preparation, the orbiting capsule descending to the moon with 2.600 miles/h
orbiting speed, and the accident Armstrong had in May 69 with the training
shuttle on earth, now I m again in doubts.....

There's lots of fly-by-rocket doubts, supported by a total lack of R&D
proof via much of anything from NASA/Apollo as well as from the USSR
AI/robotic ability to supposedly deorbit, sustain a controlled down-
range and accomplish each of their soft landings with a continually
shifting CG without momentum reaction wheels or so much a getting a
scratch, not to mention keeping the entire package on top of all the
electrostatic charged dust that should have been absolutely crystal
dry, fairly deep in flat or low places, and nearly as dark as coal,
plus then having to be continually cooled-off from the surrounding
double-IR and sufficiently shielded from all of the unavoidable gamma
and X-ray saturated environment that's not exactly human DNA
friendly.

--mitabrev;verbatim--

so, this is not the last word, but,
it must be apparent that seeing Venus is a rare event,
although it is even more rarely in occultation by Sun.

without a special effort &/or equipment,
of course. so, now, you know,
why pilots can go so momentarily nuts,
when they do see the morning star, or
the evening star.

have some fun with it;
make your own telescope!

--verbatim;mitabrev--

Sounds like one of DARPS's brown-nosed minions is not a happy Zionist/
Nazi camper.

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth


On Jun 8, 6:19 pm, wrote:
stop running your "own" simulator that "you" programmed, and
wake up; Venus does not produce its own light:
it has "phases," just like Moon ... another reason
to follow Mohammed to his cave!

have you ever actually tried to look at Venus,
according to the ephemeris' schedule?... well,
even Galileo wasn't as big a dickhead as you seem to be, so,
try reading his observations of the matter.

Run your own orbital simulator, and then you can tell me and others of
where Venus was hiding.
it's not a star; congraduation!

The Venus I'm talking about wasn't anywhere near the sun. Go figure.
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition

--who killed Schroedinger's puppy?!...
so, what's the math for this nonconvex shape of equigonal trigona ?http://www.designboom.com/contempora...apertutti.html

thus quoth:
Darfur is Sudan's poorest, wildest region. One of the Islamic World's
first anti-colonial
movements, known in the west as the Dervishes, burst from the wastes
of Darfur in the
1880s. Led by the fiery "Mahdi," the Dervishes drove the British
imperialists from Sudan,
an event immortalized in the splendid Victorian novel, Four Feathers.
The Dervishes took
Khartoum, slaying Britain's proconsul, Sir Charles "Chinese" Gordon.
The "martyred" Gordon's death roused a storm in Britain, resulting in
a punitive army
sent up the Nile (including the young Winston Churchill) that
destroyed the Dervish army
at Omdurman. But remote Darfur remained a hotbed of rebellion.
Arms and moneyhttp://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/browse_thread/thre...
095/fa18c870c2c9126f?hl=en&lnk=st&q=darfur#fa18c870c2c 9126f

thus:
well, not a moment too soon,
to decelerate the ethanol-fed dustbowl
in the Midwest ... hopefully.

http://www.newsdesk.umd.edu/uniini/p...articleID=1613

thus:
otherwise, coal's a very (?) important feedstock. so,
what is the sustainable production of natural gas & natural oil?...
Atoms, Machiavelli, Machiavelli & Oil need a figure
for the venture ads!... coal, we know from its pre-fossil
formations,
to be produced catastrophically; the burial
of whole, swampy ecosystems.
Yucca Flats is a farce majeur, even if
there's any thing left to bury, by the time it'd open, or
by noon, Pacific Time.

thus:
the Brooklyn Bridge is a powerful metaphor, but
it has to be told in the context of its manifestation
as David McCullough's first production for PBS:
his first, big SALE, in other word,
to the "eastern liberal establishment" of Wall Street,
the District of Columbia and protege Ken "Civil War Jazzbo" Burns.

--Harry of Darfuria, Episode 9 (Deuterocanonicos):
Prisoners of the Guantanamo Episcopate/poolcess!...http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050...rank_hbpa.html

Is this reply of yours another DARPA fart?

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth



On Jun 8, 6:28 pm, wrote:
lookie, he's starting to get it, that
Venus is not A star -- somebody get the smelly-salts,
before he tries to go out-of-doors and look at it!

Venus is not a STAR.

The albedo of the Venus crescent was far more than merely well within
Venus is not a STAR.

thus:
stop running your "own" simulator that "you" programmed, and
wake up; Venus does not produce its own light:
it has "phases," just like Moon ... another reason
to follow Mohammed to his cave!

have you ever actually tried to look at Venus,
according to the ephemeris' schedule?... well,
even Galileo wasn't as big a dickhead as you seem to be, so,
try reading his observations of the matter.

Run your own orbital simulator, and then you can tell me and others of
where Venus was hiding.
it's not a star; congraduation!

The Venus I'm talking about wasn't anywhere near the sun. Go figure.
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition

--who killed Schroedinger's puppy?!...
so, what's the math for this nonconvex shape of equigonal trigona ?http://www.designboom.com/contempora...apertutti.html

thus quoth:
Darfur is Sudan's poorest, wildest region. One of the Islamic World's
first anti-colonial
movements, known in the west as the Dervishes, burst from the wastes
of Darfur in the
1880s. Led by the fiery "Mahdi," the Dervishes drove the British
imperialists from Sudan,
an event immortalized in the splendid Victorian novel, Four Feathers.
The Dervishes took
Khartoum, slaying Britain's proconsul, Sir Charles "Chinese" Gordon.
The "martyred" Gordon's death roused a storm in Britain, resulting in
a punitive army
sent up the Nile (including the young Winston Churchill) that
destroyed the Dervish army
at Omdurman. But remote Darfur remained a hotbed of rebellion.
Arms and moneyhttp://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/browse_thread/thre...
095/fa18c870c2c9126f?hl=en&lnk=st&q=darfur#fa18c870c2c 9126f

thus:
well, not a moment too soon,
to decelerate the ethanol-fed dustbowl
in the Midwest ... hopefully.

http://www.newsdesk.umd.edu/uniini/p...articleID=1613

thus:
otherwise, coal's a very (?) important feedstock. so,
what is the sustainable production of natural gas & natural oil?...
Atoms, Machiavelli, Machiavelli & Oil need a figure
for the venture ads!... coal, we know from its pre-fossil
formations,
to be produced catastrophically; the burial
of whole, swampy ecosystems.
Yucca Flats is a farce majeur, even if
there's any thing left to bury, by the time it'd open, or
by noon, Pacific Time.

thus:
the Brooklyn Bridge is a powerful metaphor, but
it has to be told in the context of its manifestation
as David McCullough's first production for PBS:
his first, big SALE, in other word,
to the "eastern liberal establishment" of Wall Street,
the District of Columbia and protege Ken "Civil War Jazzbo" Burns.

--Harry of Darfuria, Episode 9 (Deuterocanonicos):
Prisoners of the Guantanamo Episcopate/poolcess!...http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050...rank_hbpa.html

On Apr 24, 2:37*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Apr 23, 9:02 am, BradGuth wrote:





On Apr 23, 7:21 am, wrote:

On Apr 22, 6:02 am, BradGuth wrote:

[...]

So was WWII, the mutually perpetrated cold-war and lo and behold, now
we're looking at WWIII just around the bloody fossil fuel corner.
. - Brad Guth

For them it's WW4. It looks like they're going to attempt it. It seems
that this time they will fail - and fail big.

Notice how these rich and powerful (mostly Jewish) folks never have a
bad word to say about their new and improved cost of energy, that
which has only inflated by 3200% in 60 years.

At this point, even another WW by conventional standards is going to
be fossil and synfuel energy spendy as hell, of which leaves us with
having to use their thermal nuclear and VX options as a preemptive
strike against all those considered as less than sufficiently Semitic/
Zionist (aka Third Reich) worthy.
. - Brad Guth

BTW, notice how it's only the pretend-atheist Jews of DARPA that are
continually upset with deductive notions other than scripted by their
NASA/Apollo cult.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

There are a group of Jews who dominate the world. They created the
"anti-semitism" mind-control program to move their Jewish sheeple from
around the world into the desert of Israel.

If you actually look at the archeological evidence, the real Jews -
the children of israel - are the African blacks.

The Jews enslaved by the Egyptians weren't the white Khazars - they
were the blacks from Africa, just like the ancient Egyptions were.

I have to refresh my brief look into this, but as far as I can
remember
- The true holy land is Ethiopia.
- Ethiopia was the greek translation of the name of one of Noah's
sons
- Ancient egyptian artifacts imply that their slaves - called the
Jews now - were a black race from africa.

If you just look at the data, you'll see that all cultures/religions/
countries/beliefs are total lies.

the matter is so very simple:
given the relative closeness of Venus to Sun, since
its orbit is inside of Earth's, it is never *visible*,
except when Sun is completely occluded by some thing,
such as Earth. now,
when you're sightseeing on Moon,
there are going to be very few moments, when
Sun is eclipsed by Earth, especially since
Moon's orbit is not in the ecliptic;
therefore, Venus won't be visible in any exposure,
that was not painstakingly set-up to capture Venus ...
any more than you could find it by eye-balling.

that doesn't prove that Armstrong actually wasn't doing his job
at a skunkwroks in the Mojave Desert; at least,
he got paid for it!

thus:
what I really wanted to know,
was the comparison of using compressed natural gas (methane)
to liquid H2 that is made from it, but first not bothering
with losses for handling; just the stoichiometries.

thus:
I should extirpate monsieur Klein's name from Kaluza's, since
he is the progenitor of the original "compactified dimensional"
scheme....
well, he also gave us the first funnystring!

thus quoth:
he really does show Smolin's DOUBLEplusUNwrongs.
http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/12/07...polchinski-on-...
http://xkcd.com/171/
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...802.3249v1.pdf

-UN HYDROGEN (sic; Methanex (TM) reformanteurs) ECONOMIE?...
La Troi Phases d'Exploitation de la Protocols des Grises de Kyoto:
(FOSSILISATION [McCainanites] (TM/sic))/
BORE/GUSH/NADIR "@" http://www.tarpley.net/aobook.htm.
Http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm (content partiale, below):
17 -- L'ATTEMPTER de COUP D'ETAT, 3/30/81

On Jun 21, 2:58 pm, spudnik wrote:
the matter is so very simple:
given the relative closeness of Venus to Sun, since
its orbit is inside of Earth's, it is never *visible*,
except when Sun is completely occluded by some thing,
such as Earth. now,
when you're sightseeing on Moon,
there are going to be very few moments, when
Sun is eclipsed by Earth, especially since
Moon's orbit is not in the ecliptic;
therefore, Venus won't be visible in any exposure,
that was not painstakingly set-up to capture Venus ...
any more than you could find it by eye-balling.

that doesn't prove that Armstrong actually wasn't doing his job
at a skunkwroks in the Mojave Desert; at least,
he got paid for it!

thus:
what I really wanted to know,
was the comparison of using compressed natural gas (methane)
to liquid H2 that is made from it, but first not bothering
with losses for handling; just the stoichiometries.

thus:
I should extirpate monsieur Klein's name from Kaluza's, since
he is the progenitor of the original "compactified dimensional"
scheme....
well, he also gave us the first funnystring!

thus quoth:
he really does show Smolin's DOUBLEplusUNwrongs.http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/12/07...802.3249v1.pdf

-UN HYDROGEN (sic; Methanex (TM) reformanteurs) ECONOMIE?...
La Troi Phases d'Exploitation de la Protocols des Grises de Kyoto:
(FOSSILISATION [McCainanites] (TM/sic))/
BORE/GUSH/NADIR .
Http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm(content partiale, below):
17 -- L'ATTEMPTER de COUP D'ETAT, 3/30/81

Are all such brown-nosed clowns and minions of the DARPA intellectual
cartel as incest mutated as yourself, or is your form of bipolar
dumbfounded disorder unique?

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

On Jun 20, 7:06 pm, wrote:
On Apr 24, 2:37 am, BradGuth wrote:



On Apr 23, 9:02 am, BradGuth wrote:

On Apr 23, 7:21 am, wrote:

On Apr 22, 6:02 am, BradGuth wrote:

[...]

So was WWII, the mutually perpetrated cold-war and lo and behold, now
we're looking at WWIII just around the bloody fossil fuel corner.
. - Brad Guth

For them it's WW4. It looks like they're going to attempt it. It seems
that this time they will fail - and fail big.

Notice how these rich and powerful (mostly Jewish) folks never have a
bad word to say about their new and improved cost of energy, that
which has only inflated by 3200% in 60 years.

At this point, even another WW by conventional standards is going to
be fossil and synfuel energy spendy as hell, of which leaves us with
having to use their thermal nuclear and VX options as a preemptive
strike against all those considered as less than sufficiently Semitic/
Zionist (aka Third Reich) worthy.
. - Brad Guth

BTW, notice how it's only the pretend-atheist Jews of DARPA that are
continually upset with deductive notions other than scripted by their
NASA/Apollo cult.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

There are a group of Jews who dominate the world. They created the
"anti-semitism" mind-control program to move their Jewish sheeple from
around the world into the desert of Israel.

If you actually look at the archeological evidence, the real Jews -
the children of israel - are the African blacks.

The Jews enslaved by the Egyptians weren't the white Khazars - they
were the blacks from Africa, just like the ancient Egyptions were.

I have to refresh my brief look into this, but as far as I can
remember
- The true holy land is Ethiopia.
- Ethiopia was the greek translation of the name of one of Noah's
sons
- Ancient egyptian artifacts imply that their slaves - called the
Jews now - were a black race from africa.

If you just look at the data, you'll see that all cultures/religions/
countries/beliefs are total lies.

It seems the devout Old Testament tribe of white Zionists are the
major culprits in far too many instances. Which other planet or solar
system do you think they came from?

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

On Jun 21, 4:58*pm, spudnik wrote:
the matter is so very simple:
given the relative closeness ofVenusto Sun, since
its orbit is inside of Earth's, it is never *visible*,
except when Sun is completely occluded by some thing,
such as Earth.

On the contrary, Venus is even visible in the daytime to the unaided
eye, as I have demonstrated many time to students in my astronomy
classes. If you'd like to have help in doing so yourself, please email
me for times and look angles. I'll need your geodetic longitude and
latitude.

Regards,

Grover Hughes




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