the two of you fail to even agree on what sort of "free energy"
to tap into: Guth thinks that H2 is free, and
the pseudonym won't even give us a hint, it's *so* available.

you, two, show no interest in conversation; otherwise,
you'd have long-since realized that Venus isn't always visible
as the morning or evening star from peri-earth orbit. however,
this aspect of astronomy must not be in the JPL sim;
is it, or is Venus just a blush dot on the TV, thereby?... I mean,
we can use the ecliptic/planar approx. of system Sol
for astrological purposes, and JPL's for the most part, but
no actual theory to explain Kepler's orbital constraints can work,
without doing the out-of-the-plane parts -- it ain't Flatland.

in particular, Newton's stolen algebraic reduction doesn't do a thing,
other thn provide a force-diagram.

so, adieu, mesdames et fecal bugs;
vous avez un vie "nice" avec le happyface Hindoo astrology --
the houses have moved, but not even Vedic astrologers give a hoot
for the phases of their little bio-rhythm markers,
other than perhaps the time of day of one's birth!

thus:
a veritable whoozwhoo of yadayada, all of the usual suspects
PLUS a large contingent from the Irvine UC;
is it *in* Irvine?.

"Nuclear: Room 218"
"Coal: the Cabana Room"

the idea of green coal is useless crap, as far
as the production of energy goes, although,
shouldn't the most efficient mode of burning it be deployed
for special & emergency reserves ...
steaming space-locomotives?... the idea seems to be contingent
upon sequestration of carbon dioxide, some where.

otherwise, it's a very (?) important feedstock. so,
what is the sustainable production of natural gas & natural oil?...
Atoms & Oil and Machiavelli need a figure for the venture ads!...
coal, we know, from its pre-fossil formations,
to be produced catastrophically; the burial
of whole, swampy ecosystems.

Yucca Flats is a farce majeur, even if
there's any thing left to bury, by the time it'd open, or
at the moment-being.

thus:
the Brooklyn Bridge is a powerful metaphor, but
it has to be told in the context of its manifestation
as David McCullough's first production for PBS:
his first, big SALE, in other word,
to the "eastern liberal establishment" of Wall Street,
the District of Columbia and protege Ken "Civil War Jazzbo" Burns. of
course,
it's an interesting story to watch, I'm sure,
in that alpha state that you get in front
of the cathodal raying baby-sitter!

thus:
so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?...
Where's Venus (from orbit or surface EVA) as
of missions A-11, A-14 and A-16?

--Harry of Darfuria, Episode 8 (Deuterocanonicos):
Prisoners of the Guantanamo Episcopate/poolcess!...
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050..._food_res.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/080426gore_ethanol.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...ls_v_food.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050...larouches.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...rank_hbpa.html

"We Cesspools are not to be sniffed at!"
—Lady Cesspool in Al Capp's "Li'l Abner" Cartoon Strip

On May 14, 11:52 am, Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum
wrote:
the two of you fail to even agree on what sort of "free energy"
to tap into: Guth thinks that H2 is free, and
the pseudonym won't even give us a hint, it's *so* available.

Actually, I prefer creating the liquid fuel product of h2o2, as well
as a couple of nifty synfuels, as derived by way of a fully renewable
and clean energy that's derived extensively from renewable wind,
solar, tidal and geothermal resources (btw; I'm not even excluding
thorium). Earth will soon enough require 100 TW, and in spite of all
the intellectual bigots and army of DARPA spooks and moles doing all
they can to foil everything, I and apparently only a few others can
help deliver that energy.

Of course, if I were in charge, I'd first set up a bounty system for
hunting down all the past, present and future newsgroup rusemasters,
and then proceed to waterboard and otherwise torture the living ****
out of each and every one of these infowar *******s, before turning
them lose in Iraq or in any number of nations that oddly seem to hate
our infidel guts.
.. - Brad Guth

On Wed, 28 May 2008 00:27:18 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com
wrote:


The electronics will fail to function when the Morgellons gets more wide
spread too.

crickets
crickets
crickets
crickets
crickets

On May 14, 4:37 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2008 00:27:18
wrote:



The electronics will fail to function when the Morgellons gets more wide
spread too.

crickets
crickets
crickets
crickets

crickets

"More evidence proving Apollo Hoax"

Is this original topic too complicated to figure out?
.. - Brad Guth

On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:42:19 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
wrote:

On May 14, 4:37 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2008 00:27:18
wrote:



The electronics will fail to function when the Morgellons gets more wide
spread too.

crickets
crickets
crickets
crickets

crickets
non-sequitur snipped

crickets prevail

On May 15, 4:11 am, www.freedomtofascism.com wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:47:07 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
wrote:



On May 14, 8:43 wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008 20:17:58 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
wrote:

On May 14, 7:12 wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008 18:58:55 -0700, Saul Levy wrote:
in that they also make mistakes,

Do you need to commit suicide because you made so many mistakes that you can
not resolve your problems by yourself anymore?

Suicide of a known clone is not a loss or gain for humanity. Like the
Borg collective, there's always more in reserve than any degree of
suicide can eliminate.

What precisely constitutes a loss or gain for humanity?

And what is humanity anyway?

Is it not true that gain is only possible when truth and knowledge are
accepted and humanity is the ability to be able to communicate the same to
others capable of understanding?

. - Brad Guth

What can we say; you gave it your best shot. It was even a little fun
while it lasted.

It will always be that way.

It's always nice to have an honest chat, at least once in a while,
because it does the soul good.

Apparently, even a rabbi can have a sense of humor.

Perhaps those tinfoil hats should have been handed out to those
Sephardi kids, before getting their brains nuked.

Why is ethnic cleaning via 36,000 fold of X-rays and Gamma dosage
acceptable, and at the same time it’s too dark and scary to set the
record straight, as an example of what humanity is willing to tolerate
from certain faith-based groups that think they are so extra special
and above whatever common law human decency?

A cure for ringworms, my ass. I believe Jesus Christ was also one of
those dark skinned Jews, whereas perhaps his ringworms were supposedly
cured by way of putting him on that stick.

Without much question, we are still being ruled and otherwise getting
snookered and dumbfounded to death by those perverted sick *******s of
the faith-based kind (meaning those of your mostly white Semitic DARPA
kind).

Besides all the tens of millions exterminated by the old USSR policy
of ethnic and political cleansing, I’ve sort of known Hitler was
somehow still alive and kicking, at the very least a better clone of
that sick ******* as going after those apparently inferior Jews was in
fact still with us, except this time cloaked by our very own Semitic
DARPA cult of mad scientists (same as Hitler’s little Third Reich
cache of helpers), plus those of our DoD taking it out on 100,000
Sephardi (dark skinned) youths. Why? (because with our help they
could get away with it).

Apparently, the elder Zionist Jews of somewhat recent times were
extremely racist, even of their own genetic kind, not to mention what
their puppet Hitler warlord accomplished, and of their previous
partners in crimes against humanity having placed Christ on that stick
for yet another one of their precious faith-based PR stunts.

Ringworm and Radiation / by Barry Chamish
http://web.israelinsider.com/views/3998.htm

I guess if you’re going to get rid of a supposed inferior race, you
have to do this from within your own kind, and you have to go all the
way so that there are few if any lose ends of that supposedly
defective DNA within your group, whereas the consequences of such
chosen actions can be forgotten or at least officially banished from
ever having happened (similar to those efforts of covering up the USS
LIBERTY fiasco).
. - Brad Guth

last chance: what about the phases of Venus,
seen from Earth, or there-abouts?... apparently,
everyone else got that that is not in desktop planetarium.

please note that everyone, but the crickets, has dropped-out
of your one-way conversation. now, if
you can show the energetics of hydrogen peroxide, compared
to dihydrogen, and that compared to the methane
from which all of it is currently produced,
you could get a reader to replace me. so,
do they use H2O2 in funny-cars, at the race-track?

"renewable" is just a greeny-fundamentalist aprobation
of every thing that is not "fossil" fuels,
which are sinply biomass. the oilcos *love* the Kyoto Protocol and
the "emmissions trading schemes" of '91, and
Peak Oil is their very own statistical doctrine,
as justified by the Gulf War Two and the hedgers;
that *was* the peak.

Dubya signing Kyoto is of no "import," whatsoever,
whether or not he is aware of it.

Actually, I prefer creating the liquid fuel product of h2o2, as well
as a couple of nifty synfuels, as derived by way of a fully renewable

thus:
well, not a moment too soon, to decelerate the corn-fed dustbowl
in the Midwest ... hopefully.

thus quoth:
was Ethazyme, which degrades the tough cell walls of cellulosic
materials and breaks down the entire plant material into bio-fuel
ready sugars in one step, at a significantly lower cost and with fewer
caustic chemicals than current methods.
Hutcheson projects a $5 billion enzyme market for biofuels. The energy
bill passed by the U.S. Senate in December mandates oil companies to
blend in 21 billion gallons of cellulosic ethanol with their gasoline
by 2022.

Inventors of the Year
Hutcheson and Weiner won the university's Office of Technology
Commercialization Inventor of the Year Award in 2007 in the Life
Science category for their enzyme system invention.
http://www.newsdesk.umd.edu/uniini/p...articleID=1613

thus:
otherwise, coal's a very (?) important feedstock. so,
what is the sustainable production of natural gas & natural oil?...
Atoms, Machiavelli, Machiavelli & Oil need a figure
for the venture ads!... coal, we know from its pre-fossil
formations,
to be produced catastrophically; the burial
of whole, swampy ecosystems.
Yucca Flats is a farce majeur, even if
there's any thing left to bury, by the time it'd open, or
by noon, Pacific Time.

thus:
the Brooklyn Bridge is a powerful metaphor, but
it has to be told in the context of its manifestation
as David McCullough's first production for PBS:
his first, big SALE, in other word,
to the "eastern liberal establishment" of Wall Street,
the District of Columbia and protege Ken "Civil War Jazzbo" Burns.

thus:
so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?...
Where's Venus (from orbit or surface EVA) as
of missions A-11, A-14 and A-16?

--Harry of Darfuria, Episode 8 (Deuterocanonicos):
Prisoners of the Guantanamo Episcopate/poolcess!...
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050..._food_res.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/080426gore_ethanol.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...ls_v_food.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050...larouches.html
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2008/l...rank_hbpa.html

"We Cesspools are not to be sniffed at!"
—Lady Cesspool in Al Capp's "Li'l Abner" Cartoon Strip

On May 11, 1:27 am, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 10, 4:13 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 9, 3:39 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
Can you answer my question. Did US astronauts orbit the
moon?
A least A-13 did accomplish that once quick little orbit thing, as
technically doable and biologically survivable as far as I can tell.
Is that a Yes?

Yes, but only if A-13 counts.

So you are saying that A-13 astronauts actually orbited
the moon?

Martin Hogbin

Not quite a full orbit, and even at that from a mostly greater
distance. Go figure, because it too damn near every fly-by-rocket
resource of energy they had, and most of the time (other than with a
brief moon shadow) it was an extremely hot mission.
.. - Brad Guth

On May 13, 2:03 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
wrote:

Further proof that the moon landigs were real -
Kettering Grammar School.

Martin Hogbin

Your Semitic incest is showing its ugly head again. Can't you at
least zip it up?
.. - Brad Guth

On May 10, 3:08 pm, Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum
wrote:
ah, you actually read what I typed; so, now,
address the question of the representation of a planet,
within your JPL-share-ware planetarium/headbasket, please:
where is the phase of Venus, as seen by Galileo etc. ??

such within a given FOV that included either the horizon of our moon
or that of Earth.

Clue; planets are not stars, and not that the extremely bluish and
vibrant Sirius shouldn't have been easily recorded within the dynamic
range of that unfiltered Kodak film.

thus:
"recoil" is a bad analogy to use for electromagnetic intereaction,
as a consequence of "photon;" the only aspect of light,
that is *corpuscular*, is probably the Compton effect -- but
I'll have to do some more reading on that (since
I only just had a "liberal arts college physics" text with that,
limited to about three sentences). I mean,
there certainly is a reason to why, Einstein got his Nobel
for this *gedanken* of Planck's idea, and not for relativity, S or G.
I mean,
is there really any general recoiling, when an atom abosrbs a quantum
of light, other than the outer electron going
to a higher orbital?

anyway, all of your stuff on "gamma" radiation appears
to not involve any experimental work, either in the lab
or the field; truly, you are a child of DARPA (and NASA,
via Dick Hoagland and the Big Faces;
summa cum laude quad cogito post hoc ergo erat demonstrandum !-)http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm

thus:
so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?..."
was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?

Where's Venus (from orbit or surface EVA) as of missions A-11, A-14
and A-16?

--Harry of Darfuria, Episode 8 (Deuterocanonicos): Prisoners of the
Guantanamo Episcopate!http://larouchepub.com/pr/2008/08050...rank_hbpa.html

"We Cesspools are not to be sniffed at!"
—Lady Cesspool in Al Capp's "Li'l Abner" Cartoon Strip

It has been frequently observed, that that capacity for evil which is
specific to creatures such as H.G. Wells and Bertrand Russell, among
similar such notables, is limited to a kind of voluntary powers given
to human beings, that being a power of which the beasts are innocent.
The perfect illustration of this point, which I develop here, is that
of the current, evil intention of the British Empire, as expressed by
the current imperialist plot associated with the draft Lisbon Treaty.

On the one side, such voluntary powers are expressed, when they are
for the good, by the special quality of modern great discoverers from
among such European scientific figures as Nicholas of Cusa, Leonardo
da Vinci, Johannes Kepler, Pierre de Fermat, Gottfried Leibniz, et al.http://larouchepub.com/lar/2008/3519wells_cesspool.html

Perhaps I should put this in terms a 5th grader could fully
appreciate. How about, you're full of DARPA/Zoinist ****.
. - Brad Guth