BradGuth wrote:
On May 9, 11:23 am, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 8, 3:13 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 8, 12:50 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On May 8, 1:23 am, Martin Hogbin wrote:
Telling our resident spook/mole "Martin Hogbin" the actual truth and
nothing but the truth
You have told me nothing, except that there were around
1000 conspirators. I eagerly await the rest of the
'truth'.

Isolated/private terrestrial guano island, xenon arc lamps, and the
very best of film and video expertise of that era.

So you are saying that some film of astronauts was
taken on an isolated island?

Martin Hogbin

Tonico wrote:
On May 9, 8:52 am, Eric Gisse wrote:
On May 8, 9:34 pm, Tim Little wrote:
[snip]

Both of these guys are very malicious idiots. Any science you bring to
the table that doesn't support their position will be rejected.

For example - note kooby's claim about year long exposures, and read
the definition of the rem.

************************************************** *******

That's a recurrent feature in these cranky posts: one begins shouting
nonsenses that make it clear he's very dumb (Shoenfeld).

Then enters the game "the scientific one", who is as cranky as the
first one but plays the "wise guy" (bradguth). This time the nonsenses
acquire an antisemitic (or antinegro, or antimexican or antisomething)
tone, with lots of minion/brown-nose(??) stuff.

Some time latter a new crank appears (Koobee) and begins a two-voices
counterpoint with one of the first two cranks, and sometimes even with
both.

It is very expected each time....and this occurs once every 4-5
months, aprox.
It could even be that all 3-4 cranks are one and the same...
Enjoy it, if you can.


And not one of them can come up with a cogent
explanation of what they claim actually happend. They
studiously avoid doing this because any such theory
would be so full of holes that it would be laughable.

Martin Hogbin

BradGuth wrote:

Before going any further, what's with this Evelyn le Chene thing?

Que?

Martin Hogbin

so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?"

was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?

Where's Venus (from orbit or surface EVA) as of missions A-11, A-14
and A-16?

--Harry Potter of Darfuria, Episode 8.

Eric Gisse wrote:
On Apr 24, 2:52 am, "CWatters"
wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Apr 24, 7:33 am, BradGuth wrote:

Certain individuals were focusing exclusively on the "no stars"
argument and they turned out to be agents. No wonder.
Certain individuals who concentrate on the radaition issue are agents as
well.

Am I the only one who is impressed by the sheer complexity of the
arguments supporting the conspiracy theory? Now it has reached the
point where a rocket /was/ launched, and the rocket went to one of the
Earth-Moon Lagrange points [why? who knows] and the corner cube arrays
were deposited by unmanned landers.

That is the whole point. The crackpots keep their story
flexible so that it can never be challenged.

Martin Hogbin

On May 9, 7:27 pm, Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum
wrote:
so, did you recalibrate the orbital constraints
in your JPL publicdomain trajectories,
to include the phasal parameter "as 'seen' from Earth?"

was Venus closer to conjunction or opposition
to Earth, during those alleged missions?

Where's Venus (from orbit or surface EVA) as of missions A-11, A-14
and A-16?

--Harry Potter of Darfuria, Episode 8.

As easily seen from lunar orbit, and otherwise as unavoidably seen
from the physically dark as coal surface of our reactive/anticathode
and highly electrostatic charged moon, whereas Venus would have been
in plain as day view (except w/o pesky sky) and as such nearly
impossible for a given unfiltered Kodak moment to have easily included
such within a given FOV that included either the horizon of our moon
or that of Earth.

Clue; planets are not stars, and not that the extremely bluish and
vibrant Sirius shouldn't have been easily recorded within the dynamic
range of that unfiltered Kodak film.
.. - Brad Guth

On May 9, 3:48 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
Tonico wrote:
On May 9, 8:52 am, Eric Gisse wrote:
On May 8, 9:34 pm, Tim Little wrote:
[snip]

Both of these guys are very malicious idiots. Any science you bring to
the table that doesn't support their position will be rejected.

For example - note kooby's claim about year long exposures, and read
the definition of the rem.

************************************************** *******

That's a recurrent feature in these cranky posts: one begins shouting
nonsenses that make it clear he's very dumb (Shoenfeld).

Then enters the game "the scientific one", who is as cranky as the
first one but plays the "wise guy" (bradguth). This time the nonsenses
acquire an antisemitic (or antinegro, or antimexican or antisomething)
tone, with lots of minion/brown-nose(??) stuff.

Some time latter a new crank appears (Koobee) and begins a two-voices
counterpoint with one of the first two cranks, and sometimes even with
both.

It is very expected each time....and this occurs once every 4-5
months, aprox.
It could even be that all 3-4 cranks are one and the same...
Enjoy it, if you can.

And not one of them can come up with a cogent
explanation of what they claim actually happend. They
studiously avoid doing this because any such theory
would be so full of holes that it would be laughable.

Martin Hogbin

So, you admit that you can't search for or much less read anything
from the past.

If it's so important, you do realize that I'd answer my own phone, and
that because I really exist is why you could stop by for a direct one
on one chat.

Between us two and a few other smart folks, we could figure out nearly
exactly what took place (+/- a few minor details)

Who do you know of that was in the USSR/Russian side of this fiasco?
.. - Brad Guth

On May 9, 3:50 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:

Before going any further, what's with this Evelyn le Chene thing?

Que?

Martin Hogbin

Are you MI5/CIA?

Or do you simply work as a double/triple agent for anyone with the
most bucks?
.. - Brad Guth

On May 9, 3:43 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 9, 11:23 am, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 8, 3:13 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 8, 12:50 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On May 8, 1:23 am, Martin Hogbin wrote:
Telling our resident spook/mole "Martin Hogbin" the actual truth and
nothing but the truth
You have told me nothing, except that there were around
1000 conspirators. I eagerly await the rest of the
'truth'.

Isolated/private terrestrial guano island, xenon arc lamps, and the
very best of film and video expertise of that era.

So you are saying that some film of astronauts was
taken on an isolated island?

Martin Hogbin

That is correct. You got any technological problem with that?
.. - Brad Guth

On May 9, 3:39 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 9, 11:16 am, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 8, 3:08 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 8, 12:36 pm, Martin Hogbin wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
Well, we are making progress. About a thousand
conspirators, you say.
They did pretty much everything except land upon and EVA walk upon our
physically dark and nasty moon.
Are you saying that US astronauts orbited the moon?

I'm thinking A-13 was doable, but that's about as good as it ever
gets.

Can you answer my question. Did US astronauts orbit the
moon?

Martin Hogbin

A least A-13 did accomplish that once quick little orbit thing, as
technically doable and biologically survivable as far as I can tell.

Extended orbits of that naked moon would be somewhat like orbiting an
unshielded reactor core that's going postal, possibly that of a little
cobalt because of the saturation of gamma plus secondary/recoil dosage
of hard-X-rays.

By day (every half orbit) the solar influx alone creates a good deal
of those reflected and secondary/recoil X-rays.

You'd best have your cache of banked bone marrow standing by if
planning on orbiting that moon of ours more than once, especially if
having been so poorly shielded as were those Apollo missions.

Don't forget about that hot atmosphere of sodium.
.. - Brad Guth