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  #551  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy.debate,alt.atheism,alt.religion.kibology
George Hammond
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Default GOD = RELATIVISTIC ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE

On Fri, 9 May 2008 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT), Titus
wrote:

On May 7, 8:09 pm, George Hammond wrote:
The "God" of Man is simply a 100% fully grown man.


[Titus, serendipitous twit]
Is he a blond, brunette, red, or black hair? What race is he? Blue,
green, or brown eyes? Height? Weight? Double-jointed or no? I'm
assuming that he is ambidextrous and perfectly symmetrical.



[Hammond]
He's whaterver YOU are! The "god" of each individual is
a perfect fully grown version of YOU. However, since there
are 6 billion people all of the same species, and the
perceptual effect is the same for all of us, the general
phenomena is called "God" with a capitol "G".


[Hammond]
Na, I was born an atheist, and remained an atheist up
until the time that I accidentally stumbled across the
scientific proof of God when I was 55 years of age in 1997.
I had no religious beliefs whatsoever. I was searching
for the Structural Model of Personality when I ACCIDENTALLY
discovered the SPOG, and suddenly realized that there WAS a
"God" and what it was, and what religion was actually
talking about behind all that metaphorical mumbo jumbo!



[Titus, serendipitous twit]
Wait. You were saying earlier how this discovery took 25 years of
research. 25 years of one man's research _part time_ is not 25 years
of research either.


[Hammond]
Wahddau mean "part time" asshole. People like me don't
"work" for chrissakes, we fight for a living 24 hours a
day... in my case doing full time independent research. Go
punch a time clock moron.


snip horse****
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================
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  #552  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,alt.talk.creationism,rec.org.mensa,alt.atheism,alt.religion.kibology
George Hammond
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Default GOD = RELATIVISTIC ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE

On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge
wrote:

On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
* *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise
tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no
tomorrow!


A fascist male argument George.

If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin.


[Hammond]
That's what you think Apartment Pants. And don't call me
a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again!
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

  #554  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,alt.talk.creationism,rec.org.mensa,alt.atheism,alt.religion.kibology
madge[_2_]
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Default GOD = RELATIVISTIC ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE

On May 10, 3:41*am, George Hammond wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge

wrote:
On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
* *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise
tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no
tomorrow!


A fascist male argument George.


If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin.


[Hammond]
* *That's what you think Apartment Pants. *And don't call me
a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again!


Note to self. Don't give george the come-on he's obviously Gay or
Greek. As well as a misogynist.

  #555  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,alt.philosophy,rec.org.mensa,sci.skeptic,alt.religion.christian
John Smith
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Default GOD = RELATIVISTIC ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE


"Danwood" wrote in message
. ..

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 May 2008 19:14:02 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
news On Thu, 08 May 2008 02:09:57 GMT, George Hammond
wrote:

On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:30 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. HotSalt"
wrote:

On May 5, 4:40 pm, "Varekem" wrote:

(brevity snip)

[Varekem]
Sheesh Mark.So he isnt saying a real God exists, just that our lack
of
growth makes us think there is one and creates the false illusion?

[Mark L. Fergerson]
No. I am saying that what he says is _partly_ correct, that humans
are capable only of observing that which we are capable of observing.
That would be a simple tautology except for the BGD (Brain Growth
Deficit)* issue; different humans are capable of observing different
amounts of reality due to their state of development in terms of how
accurately their DNA had the opportunity to be expressed as they grew
to adulthood, limited by in-utero and later nutrition and so on.


[Hammond]
YES, this a very commanding synopsis of the SPOG except
for the world "tautology" which has now been superseded in
this context by the term "Anthropic Principle" in modern
Physics, sort of the physics equivalent of WYSIWYG. Anyway,
congratulations, you're probably the only one on Usenet who
knows what the SPOG is about. Not an enviable position if
my experience is any example.


[Mark L. Fergerson]
I am saying that he is partly _incorrect_ not in that the above is
false (for it is obviously not) but in so far failing to analyze the
meaning of "perception" to see that it breaks finally down to physical
photon-driven interactions between fundamental particles.

George built the SPOG on a correspondence between the BGD and
Relativity* in that a fully developed human would "see" a "flat
psychometric* universe" such that nothing would be hidden beyond its
curvature analogous to how we cannot see into the past beyond a
certain point no matter how good a telescope we use; the Universe
simply is so big that some things are too far away for their light to
ever get here.



[Hammond]
Again congratulations in identifying "psychometric
curvature" (aka curvature of subjective spacetime) as the
cause of the "invisible world" (aka Heaven). The similarity
to an "event horizon" is heuristically good but more
accurately it is connected with the "dog whistle effect" in
that the word "curvature" is really physics jargon for a
"time dilation". This time dilation simply LOWERS the
visual spectrum cutoff frequency (aka PFF) to the point
where 20% of normal reality becomes so blurred as to become
TOTALLY INVISIBLE. Of PARTICULAR impact is the loss of
facial/personality recognition in other people, so that
their TRUE IDENTITY becomes invisible to the observer, and
in fact, this is the central phenominology of God,
Religion, and Psychology and the central factor in crime,
conflict, wars and every human conflict known to Man.
By the way, Hammond did not "build" the SPOG, I actually
bit by bit "uncovered" the SPOG. It is a pure by the book
discovery, I had no preconceived notions and no agenda when
I commenced this research 25 years ago.



[Mark L. Fergerson]
Since the causes of what happen around us are observable, and the
more you can observe, the more causes you can correlate with effects,
the more you will attribute to "God" when you cannot perceive but a
little of reality. A fully developed human brain would support a mind
without such limitations; it would "know the mind of 'God'".


[Hammond]
The above paragraph is exactly correct and is in fact a
totally scientifically correct explanation of "God". And
obviously you're one of the few people in the world who is
aware of it! I'm quite astounded at your mild mannered
ability.


[Mark L. Fergerson]
What he has not so far accepted (I think) is that _all_ physically
real entities are subject to similar general rules except that
inorganic entities are not subject to a developmental BGD but rather
to situational limitations in their range of perception. Get down to
the level of electrons and it's obvious that a free electron can
"perceive" much more than can one confined in an orbital; the latter
is completely "blind" to photons that do not correspond to allowed
transitions. Of course electrons can change their situation so there
is no direct analog of "growth" for them, but they are extremely
simple systems- something as complex as a human brain is time-
direction-limited and cannot be "ungrown" from a given point then
"regrown" with more nutrients etc. to improve their functionality.


[Hammond]
All LIVING THINGS (DNA based life) have a GROWTH DEFICIT!



[John Smith, sham rage heckler]
Unsupported (crap, insane, unscientific) assertion.

Also - up to this point you have SELECTIVELY been "reading wht isn't
there" - and coming to the deranged conclusion that this person's
comments
agree with the totality of your crap!


[Hammond]
This person has been a regular commenter on the SPOG for
more than 8 years. He is well known to me and I am familiar
with his views.
Get off this thread Smith, take your heckling somewhere
else.

When a "critic" finds himself "in over his head", heckling is all
he has left.


George using another alias, again, to pretend he has supporters?

You cannot get "in over your head" with junk that came from a crapper!


  #556  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,alt.talk.creationism,rec.org.mensa,alt.atheism,alt.religion.kibology
George Hammond
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Default GOD = RELATIVISTIC ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE

On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT), madge
wrote:

On May 10, 3:41*am, George Hammond wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge

wrote:
On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
* *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise
tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no
tomorrow!


A fascist male argument George.


If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin.


[Hammond]
* *That's what you think Apartment Pants. *And don't call me
a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again!


[madge, Bingo queen]
Note to self. Don't give george the come-on he's obviously Gay or
Greek. As well as a misogynist.

[Hammond]
Na... you're just another anally fixated bitch.
Psychiatrists call it "Penis Envy". You're jealous of
notoriety.
To get my attention you have to say something
scientific... it gives me a rod on when women speak
scientifically. And BTW, the rubber meets the road in the
Anthropic Principle... physicists discovered it but are too
dumb to realize they have accidentally discovered "God",
2000 years after the rest of us.
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

  #557  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,alt.philosophy,rec.org.mensa,sci.skeptic,alt.religion.christian
George Hammond
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Default GOD = RELATIVISTIC ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE

On Sat, 10 May 2008 07:18:53 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"Danwood" wrote in message
...

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 May 2008 19:14:02 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
news On Thu, 08 May 2008 02:09:57 GMT, George Hammond
wrote:

On Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:30 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. HotSalt"
wrote:

On May 5, 4:40 pm, "Varekem" wrote:

(brevity snip)

[Varekem]
Sheesh Mark.So he isnt saying a real God exists, just that our lack
of
growth makes us think there is one and creates the false illusion?

[Mark L. Fergerson]
No. I am saying that what he says is _partly_ correct, that humans
are capable only of observing that which we are capable of observing.
That would be a simple tautology except for the BGD (Brain Growth
Deficit)* issue; different humans are capable of observing different
amounts of reality due to their state of development in terms of how
accurately their DNA had the opportunity to be expressed as they grew
to adulthood, limited by in-utero and later nutrition and so on.


[Hammond]
YES, this a very commanding synopsis of the SPOG except
for the world "tautology" which has now been superseded in
this context by the term "Anthropic Principle" in modern
Physics, sort of the physics equivalent of WYSIWYG. Anyway,
congratulations, you're probably the only one on Usenet who
knows what the SPOG is about. Not an enviable position if
my experience is any example.


[Mark L. Fergerson]
I am saying that he is partly _incorrect_ not in that the above is
false (for it is obviously not) but in so far failing to analyze the
meaning of "perception" to see that it breaks finally down to physical
photon-driven interactions between fundamental particles.

George built the SPOG on a correspondence between the BGD and
Relativity* in that a fully developed human would "see" a "flat
psychometric* universe" such that nothing would be hidden beyond its
curvature analogous to how we cannot see into the past beyond a
certain point no matter how good a telescope we use; the Universe
simply is so big that some things are too far away for their light to
ever get here.



[Hammond]
Again congratulations in identifying "psychometric
curvature" (aka curvature of subjective spacetime) as the
cause of the "invisible world" (aka Heaven). The similarity
to an "event horizon" is heuristically good but more
accurately it is connected with the "dog whistle effect" in
that the word "curvature" is really physics jargon for a
"time dilation". This time dilation simply LOWERS the
visual spectrum cutoff frequency (aka PFF) to the point
where 20% of normal reality becomes so blurred as to become
TOTALLY INVISIBLE. Of PARTICULAR impact is the loss of
facial/personality recognition in other people, so that
their TRUE IDENTITY becomes invisible to the observer, and
in fact, this is the central phenominology of God,
Religion, and Psychology and the central factor in crime,
conflict, wars and every human conflict known to Man.
By the way, Hammond did not "build" the SPOG, I actually
bit by bit "uncovered" the SPOG. It is a pure by the book
discovery, I had no preconceived notions and no agenda when
I commenced this research 25 years ago.



[Mark L. Fergerson]
Since the causes of what happen around us are observable, and the
more you can observe, the more causes you can correlate with effects,
the more you will attribute to "God" when you cannot perceive but a
little of reality. A fully developed human brain would support a mind
without such limitations; it would "know the mind of 'God'".


[Hammond]
The above paragraph is exactly correct and is in fact a
totally scientifically correct explanation of "God". And
obviously you're one of the few people in the world who is
aware of it! I'm quite astounded at your mild mannered
ability.


[Mark L. Fergerson]
What he has not so far accepted (I think) is that _all_ physically
real entities are subject to similar general rules except that
inorganic entities are not subject to a developmental BGD but rather
to situational limitations in their range of perception. Get down to
the level of electrons and it's obvious that a free electron can
"perceive" much more than can one confined in an orbital; the latter
is completely "blind" to photons that do not correspond to allowed
transitions. Of course electrons can change their situation so there
is no direct analog of "growth" for them, but they are extremely
simple systems- something as complex as a human brain is time-
direction-limited and cannot be "ungrown" from a given point then
"regrown" with more nutrients etc. to improve their functionality.


[Hammond]
All LIVING THINGS (DNA based life) have a GROWTH DEFICIT!



[John Smith, sham rage heckler]
Unsupported (crap, insane, unscientific) assertion.

Also - up to this point you have SELECTIVELY been "reading wht isn't
there" - and coming to the deranged conclusion that this person's
comments
agree with the totality of your crap!


[Hammond]
This person has been a regular commenter on the SPOG for
more than 8 years. He is well known to me and I am familiar
with his views.
Get off this thread Smith, take your heckling somewhere
else.


[Danwood]
When a "critic" finds himself "in over his head", heckling is all
he has left.



[John Smith, sham rage heckler]
George using another alias, again, to pretend he has supporters?

You cannot get "in over your head" with junk that came from a crapper!

[Hammond]
Usenet is the vocal minority, not the silent majority.
Bear in mind that the silent majority naturally is disposed
to support something like the SPOG because it scientifically
confirms what is already the majority opinion.
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

  #558  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,alt.talk.creationism,rec.org.mensa,alt.atheism,alt.religion.kibology
madge[_2_]
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On May 10, 11:25*am, George Hammond wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT), madge



wrote:
On May 10, 3:41*am, George Hammond wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge


wrote:
On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
* *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise
tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no
tomorrow!


A fascist male argument George.


If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin.


[Hammond]
* *That's what you think Apartment Pants. *And don't call me
a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again!


[madge, Bingo queen]
Note to self. Don't give george the come-on he's obviously Gay or
Greek. As well as a misogynist.


[Hammond]
* *Na... you're just another anally fixated bitch.
Psychiatrists call it "Penis Envy". *You're jealous of
notoriety.


Infamous notoriety is hard to come by george. Penile Envy is not
within the norm for wimmin.

However I think in your case I'll make and exception and lets call it
what it is weiner envy and I have a bigger weiner than your weiner .

You do realise that your lengthy diatribes are causing premature
entropic deteriation. You're using up all the universal bitspace all
by yourself.
  #559  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,alt.talk.creationism,rec.org.mensa,alt.atheism,alt.religion.kibology
George Hammond
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Default GOD = RELATIVISTIC ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE

On Sat, 10 May 2008 08:36:56 -0700 (PDT), madge
wrote:

On May 10, 11:25*am, George Hammond wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT), madge



wrote:
On May 10, 3:41*am, George Hammond wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), madge


wrote:
On May 9, 9:54*pm, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
* *If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise
tomorrow morning. *In fact w/o Man there would BE no
tomorrow!


A fascist male argument George.


If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin.


[Hammond]
* *That's what you think Apartment Pants. *And don't call me
a fascist or I'll give it to you in the ass again!


[madge, Bingo queen]
Note to self. Don't give george the come-on he's obviously Gay or
Greek. As well as a misogynist.


[Hammond]
* *Na... you're just another anally fixated bitch.
Psychiatrists call it "Penis Envy". *You're jealous of
notoriety.



[madge, Bingo queen]
Infamous notoriety is hard to come by george. Penile Envy is not
within the norm for wimmin.

However I think in your case I'll make and exception and lets call it
what it is weiner envy and I have a bigger weiner than your weiner .

You do realise that your lengthy diatribes are causing premature
entropic deteriation. You're using up all the universal bitspace all
by yourself.

[Hammond]
Wimmin is minnow spelled backwards. Whimin is the
correct spelling. Go back to playing Bingo, I'm busy.
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================
  #560  
Old May 10th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,alt.talk.creationism,rec.org.mensa,alt.atheism,alt.religion.kibology
Ken
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On May 10, 9:08*am, George Hammond wrote:


[Hammond]
* *Wimmin is minnow spelled backwards. *Whimin is the
correct spelling. *Go back to playing Bingo, I'm busy playing with myself




& what is Dog spelled backwards, ya friggin CRACKPOT?
 




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