On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:45:41 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On 23 apr, 23:25, George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:55:03 -0700 (PDT),


[Hammond]
* *Wrong Pizzaman. *Religion is FOUNDED on exactly my
explanation of "existence". *In case you haven't noticed 85%
of the world's population are adherents to one of the 5
major faiths. *This means 85% of the world agrees with my
definition of "existence" in principle when it comes to the
scientific phenomenon of "God".

You are saying that religious people generally admit that the only
reason why something exists is because they believe it to exist?

Peter van Velzen
April 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands


[Hammond]
Of course not, don't be ridiculous. People (any people)
believe what they see.
What the SPOG proves is that NOBODY can see true reality
because we never reach full growth, and therefore we see a
CURVED VERSION of reality.
Now, unaware people think this "curved version " is true
reality, but more aware people discovered long ago that it
is curved, and therefore part of true reality is missing, or
"invisible".
Religious people are simply people who KNOW ABOUT IT,
while atheists, the uneducated, stupid or ignorant people
DON'T KNOW IT.
The religious people call the phenomenon "God" while
ignorant and unaware people don't even notice it, until it
eventually kills them due to an accident, healthl effects,
mental effects or lact of the ability to protect themselves
from predators (Evil so called).
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"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:33:45 +0100, "marc"
wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Odd that you cannot seem to comprehend the contradictive stupidity of
your
own stance.

Language does not posses adequate functionality to articulate what Hammond
cannot comprehend.

Marc


It's retrodictive stupidity, not contradictive stupidity.


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"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:45:41 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On 23 apr, 23:25, George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:55:03 -0700 (PDT),


[Hammond]
Wrong Pizzaman. Religion is FOUNDED on exactly my
explanation of "existence". In case you haven't noticed 85%
of the world's population are adherents to one of the 5
major faiths. This means 85% of the world agrees with my
definition of "existence" in principle when it comes to the
scientific phenomenon of "God".

You are saying that religious people generally admit that the only
reason why something exists is because they believe it to exist?

Peter van Velzen
April 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands


[Hammond]
Of course not, don't be ridiculous. People (any people)
believe what they see.
What the SPOG proves is that NOBODY can see true reality
because we never reach full growth, and therefore we see a
CURVED VERSION of reality.

Wha the "S.P.O.Crap" proves is only that you are a deranged, egomaniacal,
psychotic asshole - who knows little about science, and even less about
reality.

George Hammond wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:36:47 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:


Dozen's of anonymous jackass high school dropouts show up
on Usenet claiming they're "PhD's", who are you kidding?
Oh... going to claim anonymity as an excuse for not
posting your CV?.... then answer a Physics test question for
us:

What is the relationship between the Dirac
Gamma matrices of QED and the Christoffel Symbols
Of General relativity?

A 25 word answer will be sufficent.
If you can't answer that question off the top of your
head, you're a f---in phoney.
And even if you find the answer by searching Google, I
still won't believe you until I see a CV.
You are getting desperate aren't you? You contradict yourself
within one sentence. You want an answer but have already said
you will not believe that answer. There is as much logic
in this as there is in your so called proof.



[Hammond]
Just as I thought, you're a psycho-phoney, probably a
junior lab techncian. Physics PhD my ass! Get outta here.

This is getting funnier as you get continually more desperate
to ignore the truth. You already told me you would not believe
the answer so there is no point in answering. My PhD is doing
just fine without your belief.

You also try to attack the messenger rather than the message.
The truth is that you are putting out nonsense that we all
laugh at and it is fun to watch you fume and sputter but we
still pity you and hope that you learn what you are actually
trying to do.

You have no physics content to discuss in any of your "proofs"
and you know that if you ever did go to school. Psychobabble
does not constitute proofs. Bullying does not constitute proof.
Swearing does not constitute proof. Putting your fingers in
your ears and pretending to not hear the truth does not consitute
proof.

You got the number of gods in the various religions wrong,
you ignored most of the gods in other religions and you
have nothing in your "proof". Live with it. But why not
study and learn from your mistakes?


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George Hammond wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:34:35 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:11:56 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:
No, everyone who sees your writings here are laughing - and they're
laughing AT you. It's not just a few, it's everyone. Except for those
who just pity you.

That's a property of the corpulent academy boy Usenet
environment which is heavily infected by psychotic avant
guard wannabees, like you.
That's your problem, George. You are too blind to see, or (more
likely) simply refuse to see that your so-called "proof" is crap,
not the rest of the world for laughing at it.

[Hammond]
Screw heckler. Nobody's listening to you, they're listening
to me.
No, you got the wrong word. We are laughing at you. You
have to appreciate how funny this all seems with your
desperate flailing around hoping to randomly hit on some
truth somewhere. Although it is getting a bit embarrassing
to watch your continued difficulties.

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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:49:00 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)" wrote:

George Hammond wrote:
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:34:35 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:11:56 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:
No, everyone who sees your writings here are laughing - and they're
laughing AT you. It's not just a few, it's everyone. Except for those
who just pity you.

That's a property of the corpulent academy boy Usenet
environment which is heavily infected by psychotic avant
guard wannabees, like you.
That's your problem, George. You are too blind to see, or (more
likely) simply refuse to see that your so-called "proof" is crap,
not the rest of the world for laughing at it.

[Hammond]
Screw heckler. Nobody's listening to you, they're listening
to me.
No, you got the wrong word. We are laughing at you. You
have to appreciate how funny this all seems with your
desperate flailing around hoping to randomly hit on some
truth somewhere. Although it is getting a bit embarrassing
to watch your continued difficulties.

Was this lunatic ever sane?

My father once knew somebody at work who asked everybody if they were
sane. Could they prove it? He had a certificate certifying he was.

"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:46:25 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:09:01 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:


[Andy F.]
There's a human opinion based on sensory perception that the universe
has
been around for billions of years.

[Hammond]
There is overwhelming evidence based on scientific
deduction that *IF* a person existed a billion years ago,
then he would have indeed observed the Universe to exist. I
throughly agree with that and anybody who doesn't is
certifiably either crazy or incompetent.

[Andy F.]
This means the universe existed before
humans did.


[Hammond]
WRONG, DEAD WRONG ANDY.

1) The "existence", of anything, depends entirely on the
sensory perception of Man. There IS NO definition
of the word "existence" that is independent of the
action of a HUMAN observer.
Proof: If all men died tomorrow at 9am, there
would no longer be any way to ascertain at 9:01am
if ANYTHING whatsoever "existed". The word
"existence" has no meaning whatsoever
without the existence of human beings.

2) But what your statement above says, is that
circumstantial evidence indicates (indeed
conclusively) that *IF* a human observer existed
a billion years ago, then he "would have" observed
that the Universe "existed". And I thoroughly
agree with that statement.

An event has to happen BEFORE it can be observed.The light from an object
has to travel to your eyes before you can see it.
If the object is close by, this takes a few billionths of a second.When
you
look at the sun, you're seeing what was there 8 minutes ago.And if you
look
through a powerful telescope, you can observe events which hapened
millions
of years ago.

[Hammond]
Idiocy, the Universe didn't "exist" until the human race
arrived to "make" it exist by seeing it. Makes no
difference that the light took 13 billion years to get here,
it didn't "exist" until the human race arrived to see it.


3) However, in point of fact, no such human observer
did exist a billion years ago, therefore, by paragraph
1 above, the Universe actually did *NOT* "exist"
a billion years ago.... even though it "would have"
if anybody was around to see it.

[Andy F.]
So it's not possible for humans to have created the universe.


[Hammond]
Wrong again.
The above proof demonstrates conclusively that Man
"caused" the Universe to come into "existence" since ONLY A
HUMAN can confirm that anything "exists".
In short, "existence" is a PROPERTY of the human mind. No
people, no existence, of anything!

But a human can't confirm that something exists until after it
exists.Which
would make it logically impossible for anything to come into existence.

[Hammond]
Idiot..... nothing existed until Humans arrived to "make" it
exist by seeing it. You're an imbecile who will never rise
above moronic world games... I suggest you try crossword
puzzles. Moron.


OK. As soon as you've explained how you can 'see' something that doesn't
exist, I'll go and do the crossword.,

George Hammond writes:

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:34:35 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

That's your problem, George. You are too blind to see, or (more
likely) simply refuse to see that your so-called "proof" is crap,
not the rest of the world for laughing at it.

[Hammond]
Screw heckler. Nobody's listening to you, they're listening
to me.

They're listening to you and not me, alright. They listen to your latest
"proof" and they start rolling on the floor laughing. They smile when
they see you put in your place by a (real) PhD and then try to squirm out
of it. Me? I'm far less entertaining. I don't post hilarious "proofs"
that appear to be fresh from the local asylum. I know how to count to 13.
I'm rather boring in comparison. But I'd rather be considered boring
than insane.

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:47:08 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

[Hammond]
answer this Physics test question for us:

What is the relationship between the Dirac
Gamma matrices of QED and the Christoffel Symbols
Of General relativity?

A 25 word answer will be sufficient.
If you can't answer that question off the top of your
head, you're a f---in phony.
ANSWER THE QUESTION OR GET OUT


[Hammond]
Just as I thought, you can't answer the question,
you're a psycho-phony, probably a junior lab technician.
Physics PhD my ass! Get outta here.
ANSWER THE QUESTION OR GET OUT


[Doug, physics fraud and laughing stooge]
This is getting funnier as you get continually more desperate
to ignore the truth. You already told me you would not believe
the answer so there is no point in answering.

[Hammond]
I'll believe the answer if it is correct, that's for
certain. You don't know the answer because you're a Physics
fraud and a Scientific braggart and imposter, a mere
halfwit heckler, and congenital moron. Besides that you
suck!
ANSWER THE QUESTION OR GET OUT


[Doug, physics fraud and laughing stooge]
You got the number of gods in the various religions wrong,


[Hammond]
And you're a liar, the SPOG correctly predicts the
canonical gods of the Egypto-Greco-Roman pantheon, and the
canonical God/4 Gospel Saints of Xtianity to better than 92%
accuracy. You're a vicious, sadistic and aggravated scumbag
and psychotic moron.
ANSWER THE QUESTION OR GET OUT

[Doug, physics fraud and laughing stooge]
you ignored most of the gods in other religions


[Hammond]
More horse****.... the SPOG correctly predicts and proves
the existence of the 30 demigods of Hinduism (30-1st order
eigenvectors).... you don't know what the f--- you're
talking about and care less because you're an irresponsible
psychotic scumbag.
ANSWER THE QUESTION OR GET OUT


[Doug, physics fraud and laughing stooge]
have nothing in your "proof".


[Hammond]
More lying horse****..... the SPOG proves that the
eigenvector structure of Psychometric Factor Analysis is
CAUSALLY IDENTICAL to Linearized Relativistic Gravity.
That's a HARD SCIENTIFIC RESULT, confirmed experimentally to
3 significant figures. An actual scientific proof of God,
dimwit.
ANSWER THE QUESTION OR GET OUT


[Doug, physics fraud and laughing stooge]
study and learn from your mistakes?


[Hammond]
You're the one who made the mistake, the mistake of
trying to smear Hammond.... I've just turned your ass into
mince meat, and that's only a sample of what'll happen to
assholes like you after the scientific community and the
public learn about your treacherous behavior towards the
SPOG on Usenet.
ANSWER THE QUESTION OR GET OUT
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:44:02 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:46:25 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:09:01 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:


[Andy F.]
There's a human opinion based on sensory perception that the universe
has
been around for billions of years.

[Hammond]
There is overwhelming evidence based on scientific
deduction that *IF* a person existed a billion years ago,
then he would have indeed observed the Universe to exist. I
throughly agree with that and anybody who doesn't is
certifiably either crazy or incompetent.

[Andy F.]
This means the universe existed before
humans did.


[Hammond]
WRONG, DEAD WRONG ANDY.

1) The "existence", of anything, depends entirely on the
sensory perception of Man. There IS NO definition
of the word "existence" that is independent of the
action of a HUMAN observer.
Proof: If all men died tomorrow at 9am, there
would no longer be any way to ascertain at 9:01am
if ANYTHING whatsoever "existed". The word
"existence" has no meaning whatsoever
without the existence of human beings.

2) But what your statement above says, is that
circumstantial evidence indicates (indeed
conclusively) that *IF* a human observer existed
a billion years ago, then he "would have" observed
that the Universe "existed". And I thoroughly
agree with that statement.

An event has to happen BEFORE it can be observed.The light from an object
has to travel to your eyes before you can see it.
If the object is close by, this takes a few billionths of a second.When
you
look at the sun, you're seeing what was there 8 minutes ago.And if you
look
through a powerful telescope, you can observe events which hapened
millions
of years ago.

[Hammond]
Idiocy, the Universe didn't "exist" until the human race
arrived to "make" it exist by seeing it. Makes no
difference that the light took 13 billion years to get here,
it didn't "exist" until the human race arrived to see it.


3) However, in point of fact, no such human observer
did exist a billion years ago, therefore, by paragraph
1 above, the Universe actually did *NOT* "exist"
a billion years ago.... even though it "would have"
if anybody was around to see it.

[Andy F.]
So it's not possible for humans to have created the universe.


[Hammond]
Wrong again.
The above proof demonstrates conclusively that Man
"caused" the Universe to come into "existence" since ONLY A
HUMAN can confirm that anything "exists".
In short, "existence" is a PROPERTY of the human mind. No
people, no existence, of anything!

But a human can't confirm that something exists until after it
exists.Which
would make it logically impossible for anything to come into existence.

[Hammond]
Idiot..... nothing existed until Humans arrived to "make" it
exist by seeing it. You're an imbecile who will never rise
above moronic world games... I suggest you try crossword
puzzles. Moron.


OK. As soon as you've explained how you can 'see' something that doesn't
exist, I'll go and do the crossword.,

[Hammond]
Simple: You come into existence, and when you come into
existence anything you see "exists".
3 across is HAMMOND.
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