"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:24:59 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:



So the universe DID exist a biilion years ago because we can
experience electro magnetic waves coming from a billion lightyears
away right NOW!

Peter van Velzen
April 23, 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands


[Hammond]
WRONG.
The 13 billion year old electromagnetic waves didn't come
into "existence" until MAN came into existence 200,000 years
ago.

This is because here was no such thing as "EXISTENCE" before
MAN came into existence, BECAUSE "existence" is a property
of the human mind. No humans, no existence.

The fact that we can see 13 billion year old electromagnetic
waves coming in from outer space merely means that:

The "exixtence" of of 13 billion year old
e.m. waves came into "existence" 200,000
years ago when Man came into existence
because TIME ITSELF came into existence
when Man came into existence.

As St. Augustine put it 1700 years ago:

The Universe was created WITH TIME,
not IN TIME.
(St. Augustine, ca. 300 AD)

The theory of God is not kid stuff, it may be too
sophisticated for you.


Repeating the same outrgeously deranged crap, over and over again, does NOT
make it either fact or science ... twit!

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:51:26 +0200, Richard Anacker
wrote:

Sers George et all

George Hammond schrieb:

I've got 2.5 degrees in Physics asshole.

What the heck are "Physics asshole"?
Isn't it physic assholes?

[Hammond]
"Physics asshole" is the singular of "Physics assholes".

Take some more English courses.

And what is half a degree? Didn't you pass the examination?

[Hammond]
Screw, I don't feed stalkers; Ape****.
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mirror site:
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GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
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George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:37:07 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:26:14 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:
[Hammond]
Nobody's laughing except wimps like you who are forced to go
cutsie.
Given that everyone else has shown how silly your assumptions
and conclusions are the only thing left is to laugh.


[Hammond]
Nobody's laughing except wimps like you who went cutsie on
me
.
If you
do not like it, learn some physics


[Hammond]
I've got 2.5 degrees in Physics asshole.
That is 2.0 as there are no 0.5 degrees given.
You are outranked as I have 3.0. I finished graduate
school in physics.

But none of that matters since none of what you are
posting has anything to do with physics. You are
attempting to pervert logic and religion and somehow
make silly assumptions like the Greeks not knowing the
difference between 12 and 13 (that one brought howls of
laughter from everyone) and rewriting the number of
gods (all of which are man made creations anyway). Trying
to prove that nonexistant gods are a result of your theory
is pretty bizarre, even you must admit.

By the way, insults and swearing are not the way to win
arguments. Those who made it through school prefer logic,
reasoning and facts.


VITA FOR GEORGE HAMMOND

B.S. Physics 1964, Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Worcester MA, USA (Deans List)
M.S. Physics 1967, Northeastern University,
Boston MA, USA
Ph.D. Candidate and Teaching Fellow in Physics, 1967-68
Northeastern Univ. Boston MA
Note: Studied Relativity under Prof. Richard Arnowitt
at N.U. and who is presently Distinguished
Professor of Physics at TAMU

Peer reviewed publications:

Hammond G.E (1994) The Cartesian Theory, in
New Ideas In Psychology, Vol 12(2) 153-167
Pergamon Press. Online copy of peer/published
paper is posted at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/cart.html

Hammond G.E.(2003) A Semiclassical Proof of God
Noetic Journal, Vol 4(3) July 2003, pp 231-244(Noetic
Press)
Online copy of peer/published paper is posted at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proo...ammond5s1.html
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

Sers George et all

George Hammond schrieb:


"Physics asshole" is the singular of "Physics assholes".

Ok, so you have 2.5 degrees in "physik asshole". Is this good to be a
degreed physics asshole? And why didn't you pass your examination, it seems
as you are quite a good asshole. So the problem must have been the
physics-part, right?

And what is half a degree? Didn't you pass the examination?


Screw, I don't feed stalkers; .

Aha, failed your examination. Obviously, after having a good laugh about
your theories.

Ape****

strange name. But okay, if your parents thought it fits...

richie
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Sers George et all

George Hammond schrieb:

This means 85% of the world agrees with my
definition of "existence" in principle when it comes to the
scientific phenomenon of "God".

morons are so bad in numbers. This assertion is so bad, it isn't even funny
or sad. It's just - how do you call you? ah - ape****.

richie
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On Apr 20, 2:11 pm, George Hammond wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:28:30 GMT, George Hammond

wrote:

GOD = RAP
(Relativistic Anthropic Principle)

The Anthropic Principle is well known to Science today.
Carter, Barrow, Tipler, Wheeler and even Hawking and Penrose
and Weinberg have written extensively on the subject.
What Science DOESN'T KNOW is that the Anthropic Principle
was actually discovered thousands of years ago by Religion.
The irony of this has not been lost on Religious experts.
Fact is, the "Anthropic Principle" simply says:
"observables exist because observers exist". After all, it
doesn't take rocket science to figure out that if there was
no such thing as an observer, then there would be no such
thing as observables; since the testimony of observers is
the ONLY WAY we know that the observables exist.
As far as Physics is concerned of course, "Man" is THE
observer. This proves that it is MAN who causes the
Universe to exist. After all, if all people died at 9am
tomorrow, there would no longer be any observables, no
universe, no time, no space; no nothing. NOTHING WOULD
"EXIST".
Religion recognized this principle thousands of years
ago, St. Augustine in particular. In fact Bishop George
Berkeley formally published the thesis 300 years ago, and as
recently as 1900 Mary Baker Eddy founded the highly
successful Christian Science Church on the principle.
It is therefore a fascinating irony that Science has
finally stumbled on the PRACTICAL DISCOVERY of the Anthropic
Principle... they finally recognized such elementary facts
as WHY the Universe is 13 billion years old... i.e. that it
took that long for Man to emerge, and without Man there is
no "Universe"... therefore, the Anthropic Principle not only
explains the "age of the Universe"... but that realization
actually proves that the AP explains the existence of the
Universe in the first place!
OK... but the scientists have YET to realize this; that
the existence itself, of anything, depends on the Anthropic
Principle... and therefore, that the Anthropic Principle de
facto explains the so called "Biblical Creation"...
existence itself only came into being 200,000 years ago when
Man appeared; Homo Sapiens sapiens. Note that the Bible
figures this was 6,000 years ago, but Anthropology was in a
primitive state when the Bible was written, so they're about
194,000 short of the correct date of Creation... but still a
good guess for nonscientific people in primitive times.
OK.... here's the REAL ENTERTAINMENT aspect of all this.
Religious people are far smarter and more widely educated
than Scientists (believe it or not), and consequently they
view the Scientific "discovery" of the Anthropic Principle
with MUCH AMUSEMENT, since they have known about it for
thousands of years.
The Religious people of course realize that "Man created
reality" and they further realize that Scientists think that
"Reality created Man". Knowing that it is futile to try and
explain this to stubborn and nerd like Scientists, the
Religious people are having a field day teasing the
Physicists with long endless dissertations on how
"scientifically peculiar" it is that the Universe seems to
be so "finely tuned" to support life (when of course just
the opposite is true as any dunderhead can see... that in
fact "life is finely tuned to fit into the universe by
Natural Selection). And sure enough, the scientists fall
for it every time, why we have scientists pointing out that
"if the electron was 1% smaller, life couldn't exist", or
"if the Earths orbit was 1% larger, we would be extinct", or
"if there wasn't an excited state of Carbon at 6.67 Mev
carbon based life couldn't exist", blah, blah, blah.
However, it turns out that HAMMOND (2003) is slated to
have the last laugh, a laugh at BOTH the scientists and the
Theologians!
HAMMOND of course long ago recognized that "the mind
creates Reality, and therefore the Universe and everything
in it.... but AMAZINGLY....Hammond also being a prodigious
Relativity physicist psychology investigator
(Psychometrics), accidentally discovered that human
perception (of reality) is actually RELATIVISTICALLY CURVED.
In other words, the reality you see, is actually a CURVED
VERSION of true reality, and that this makes part of true
reality INVISBLE to you, me, and every other person in the
human race. And this phenomena is known historically as
"GOD".
Yes... HAMMOND has discovered (and proved and peer
published, 2003) that the universal Secular Trend Growth
Deficit in Man, causes Man's perception (of sight, sound,
touch, taste, smell) to be RELATIVISTICALLY CURVED thus
rendering 20%, on average, of (normal) Reality to be
invisible... thus scientifically explaining and proving the
existence of God and Heaven in one fell swoop.
Meanwhile the entertaining dialog between Physics and
Religion over the so called "Anthropic Principle" continues
to highly amuse those people in society who already full
well know what God actually is, and I predict, that there
will be much gnashing of teeth among the academic pedants
when HAMMOND'S discovery of the world's first bona fide
Scientific Proof of God (SPOG for short) becomes common
scientific knowlege.
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

There are other universes without life.

And you empirical evidece is......?

They don't need God.

Smarty

On Apr 23, 3:19*pm, George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:24:59 -0700 (PDT),

" wrote:

So the universe DID exist a biilion years ago because we can
experience electro magnetic waves coming from a billion lightyears
away right NOW!

Peter van Velzen
April 23, 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands

[Hammond]
* *WRONG.
The 13 billion year old electromagnetic waves didn't come
into "existence" until MAN came into existence 200,000 years
ago.

This is because here was no such thing as "EXISTENCE" before
MAN came into existence, BECAUSE "existence" is a property
of the human mind. *No humans, no existence.

The fact that we can see 13 billion year old electromagnetic
waves coming in from outer space merely means that:

* * * * The "exixtence" of of 13 billion year old
* * * * *e.m. waves came into "existence" 200,000
* * * * *years ago when Man came into existence
* * * * *because TIME ITSELF came into existence
* * * * *when Man came into existence.

As St. Augustine put it 1700 years ago:

* * * * *The Universe was created WITH TIME,
* * * * *not IN TIME.
* * * * * * * * * (St. Augustine, ca. 300 AD)

St. Augustine also believed that the original sin was sex between Adam
and Eve and that sex is the highest form of sin.

So, by implication of such belifs, man is the result of the highest
form of sin.

Mike




The theory of God is not kid stuff, it may be too
sophisticated for you.
=====================================
* * *SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
*http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
* *mirror site:
*http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
* * * GOD=G_uv * (a folk song on mp3)
*http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

George Hammond wrote:

[snip]

Fact is, the "Anthropic Principle" simply says:
"observables exist because observers exist".

So, if we stop reading your posts, will you go away?

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On Apr 23, 4:41*pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:
George Hammond wrote:

[snip]

* *Fact is, the "Anthropic Principle" simply says:
"observables exist because observers exist". *

So, if we stop reading your posts, will you go away?

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Hammond's a Crackpot and a total Nutcase

"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:55:03 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On 23 apr, 21:19, George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:24:59 -0700 (PDT),

" wrote:

So the universe DID exist a biilion years ago because we can
experience electro magnetic waves coming from a billion lightyears
away right NOW!

Peter van Velzen
April 23, 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands

[Hammond]
WRONG.
The 13 billion year old electromagnetic waves didn't come
into "existence" until MAN came into existence 200,000 years
ago.

This is because here was no such thing as "EXISTENCE" before
MAN came into existence, BECAUSE "existence" is a property
of the human mind. No humans, no existence.

The fact that we can see 13 billion year old electromagnetic
waves coming in from outer space merely means that:

The "exixtence" of of 13 billion year old
e.m. waves came into "existence" 200,000
years ago when Man came into existence
because TIME ITSELF came into existence
when Man came into existence.

SNIP CRAP

I am afraid the meaning of the word existence as you see it, only
exists in your mind, and not in that of other people.

[Hammond]
Wrong Pizzaman. Religion is FOUNDED on exactly my
explanation of "existence".

Oh ... so know you are the "god" of religon!
Of course, like all else you spew, this crap has absolutely no supportive
evidence.



In case you haven't noticed 85%
of the world's population are adherents to one of the 5
major faiths. This means 85% of the world agrees with my
definition of "existence" in principle when it comes to the
scientific phenomenon of "God".

You have to show VALID and scientific support for the first claim before you
move oon to the second.
(a real scientist would know that!)
You didn't.
You haven't.
You won't.
You CAN'T - because it is nothing more than your own psychotic, egomaniacal
crap!